Who is Red John?

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Ugh, this show has resorted to BS now that the RJ storyline is done. When Rigsby gets shot with the handgun the entry point is close to center mass just off to the left, almost certainly a heart shot. He should have been dead and I was cheering the bold move to kill him off then when he miraculously saves the day his wound is up on his left shoulder. SMDH, talk about cheap TV tricks. That's it for me, game over, the show is officially mailing it in.

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I keep seeing the two pictures as hopeful proof that the hacked episode is a fake. The first picture from the promo doesn't have Bertram dead on the floor and the second from the episode you can see Bertram's dead body.

Well of course they are going to digitally remove Bertram's dead body from the PROMO otherwise it gives away that Bertram gets killed and isn't RJ. (Which in itself is kind of stupid since they didn't have enough sense to blur out RJ's head as he crashes through the glass door and we all knew it was Mcallister at that time anyway.)

Sigh…I haven't watched the episode yet and will wait till Sunday but the overwhelmingly negative response to it is really bumming me out. I'm completely ok with the sheriff as RJ, and although I haven't seen it, I believe I'll be ok with RJ turning sissy and calling 911 and begging for his life. Deep down RJ obviously has issues that would come to the fore once he's exposed and vulnerable hence the reason he's a psychotic serial killer, desperately needs Patrick’s approval, etc. I'm sure I'll be ok with that because it’s consistent with a severely narcissistic personality that doesn’t want to lose the one thing they love above all else (their own life). 

Where I'm going to have a problem is the show not answering any of the burning questions the Mentalist fanbase has been pondering for years (literally!!). It is just an utter slap in the face to not find out why Partridge had to die, why he really didn’t kill Lisbon, how he got the list, etc. Again, I’m completely ok with PJ telling RJ he doesn’t give two sh*ts about how he got the list. It’s very consistent with PJ’s character. He knows RJ desperately wants him to appreciate his intelligence and the things he’s done and not only does PJ not care about that, even if he did he wouldn’t give RJ the satisfaction…but that doesn’t mean the writers couldn’t cleverly give us the answer without compromising PJ’s character! Who the hell is writing this stuff?! It’s not rocket science.

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For those that have seen it, I have two questions: do they explain why RJ killed Partridge and how he got the list?
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I'm going to have to stay off this site until the episode runs on Sunday. The incessant refreshing and checking to see if there is just that one more hint of information is slowly driving me insane.

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One problem I've always had with the Partridge theory is that in the copycat murder case that Partridge is working he claims it to be RJ. We know RJ doesn't like to be slandered and hear it straight from his own mouth that he hates poor imitations of his work, yet as Partridge he is giving credit to the copycat killers as being RJ? It just goes completely against RJ's character to do that for any reason. I understand the "throwing Jane off" argument as the counter to that but I don't see that as a valid one considering it isn't necessary for him to do that to throw PJ off.

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Down to two! I think it's pretty clear from the 6x8 promo and the way the story has played out that Bertram is NOT RJ. Almost certainly connected to him and probably his right hand man. The "call" Bertram would make anytime he got big news would be to RJ of course.

It's really looking like Mcallister based on the promo pictures and IMO the door is still wide open for Partridge as well. They could have shut that door by having Cho confirm it really WAS him but instead chose to show just a sliced up shoulder. You can make the argument that Cho would have been able to tell if it was him or not but they obviously chose to leave it ambiguous instead of making it clear. It's possible the Sheriff is alive but Partridge is RJ.

So now we're down to the two characters that were shown in the first two episodes of the series, as it should be. My money is on the Sheriff but either way I'll be happy with the outcome . One week left!

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If RJ really is in the house with PJ and the other 4 suspects then he's ballsy to get that close. A question I have asked is why would RJ show up knowing Patrick is so close to catching him and may have a trap set. If Rj is Bertram then it wouldn't be the first time that he'd allowed PJ to paint him into a corner and bring him right to the edge of being caught. It is very similar to Season 3 finale when he goes to the Mall with Patrick even though Patrick suspects him of being the RJ accomplice.

The only suspects I've completely ruled out are Smith and Kirkland. I don't necessarily think Bertram IS RJ, this was just a random thought. LOL, I'm all over the place with who RJ is. Today I'm actually leaning towards the Sheriff, tomorrow I'll probably think it's Haffner.

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