Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I have not watched any episodes since the god awful reveal of the least plausible RJ....just poked my nose in to here to see if there was a hint of a return in the recent season?

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Someone here mentioned how the ending of PLL [in Season 5] was everything that The Mentalist SHOULD have been.  So, I just finished 4th season of Pretty Little Liars and so far, it's pretty damn good -- they explain a great deal of the questions, but still leave the mystery of who the "mastermind villain" really is, to be revealed at the end of Season 5.  

Boy, The Mentalist people should have watched PLL and taken notes!!  [Or at least taken some writing classes.]  

PLL revolves around teen girls, which I wouldn't normally watch, and parts of Season One seemed like soft porn for lesbians BUT I kept watching because…the suspense and mystery are very intriguing, and become more complicated as the story unravels.

PLL has twists and turns, mysterious characters, an anyone-could-be-the-villain feel, a plethora of clues and the use of classic literature and film --- which [unlike The Mentalist ] pays homage in clever and nuanced ways, especially to Hitchcock and film noir, and the references are built in naturally, they WORK in the plot, as backdrop, adding dimension and symbolism quite well.  Some are out front, tongue in cheek, like the "Rear Window Brew" coffeehouse and some are so subtle, you realize later -- like the french poster in Mr. Fitz's apartment.  But so far, they all work, which is how it ought to be!!

Heller compared RJ to "Moby Dick" and "Moriarty" and then basically gives us a disgruntled guy from the post office who probably lives with his mother.  I mean --- if Heller felt McAllister was the best choice, FINE, but don't fucking calling him Jane's "MORIARTY," okay?!

Hats off to all the hardworking shows like PLL, True Detective, The Killing, Secrets & Lies….delivering quality entertainment without insulting our intelligence.  When it comes to The Mentalist, we were "conned."



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THIS SITE IS DEAD!!!!!! ......... THE MENTALIST IS OVER!!!!!.......BRUNO HELLER & Co. FUCKED US ALL!!!!! ...........HE PULLED McRJ OUT OF A FUCKING HAT!!!!!!!.........WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?...SERIOUSLY......WHAT THE FUCK........WHAT HAPPENED?......WHY? ......lol.....my mind is blown

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Look at Laroche when they catch that bomb-man on the last episode of 3rd season..

btw hes so fkin creepy to me.

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There is something that has been nagging at me since the episode Blinking Red Light first aired.

As we know, the season 3 finale has Red John manipulating Jane into believing Timothy Carter was Red John, which was the first time Jane proved his quest for vengeance was serious by killing Timothy without a second thought. At the beginning of season four, he realized he was played the fool, and admits to Lisbon that the real Red John is still at large.

Some time passes with scant mention of the real Red John, then Blinking Red Light comes around. This time, James Panzer (The SJK) outwits Jane, which forces Jane to try and goad Panzer into an incriminating reaction on live television. It nearly succeeds, but Panzer catches himself and it ultimately doesn't work. At his wits' end, Jane sees the titular blinking red light atop one of the studio cameras, and we immediately see just from his expression that he is reminded of Red John and what happened as a result of what he did. From here, Jane cleverly guides Panzer into making the same mistake he did. This is where it gets silly.

Jane KNOWS the real Red John cannot handle dissenters and will personally go after anyone who speaks ill of him. He KNOWS the real Red John is coming after Panzer.

Knowing that Jane truly wishes to kill Red John, knowing how much time he had between the end of the TV show up until the real Red John (who is just one man) could reasonably get to Panzer...Why did he not use this opportunity to trap, capture, or kill Red John?

Understandably, Jane might not want Red John getting caught by police out of fear of being unable to exact his vengeance, but with all of his remarkable creativity he does not need the CBI resources and could have formulated a trap to at least get Red John's identity out of it. He could have bugged Panzer, made a decoy, even just follow him with his gun ready to kill! And these are just some options off the top of my head! Instead, he chose to not even try, merely head home and await the inevitable. In fact, it seems like the thought never occurred to him. Why? Was Jane being facetious when he told Lisbon that the real Red John is still out there, but wasn't sure, and just needed evidence to prove it to himself? Or is it just another plot hole?

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Well there were many things that were kind of strange so i hope maybe you could help me. Just watched the last episode and was kind of shocked that thats supposed to be the end....wasnt realy a good end to me but nevermind....my actual question is....there was one scene where Kirkland is in his office and his putting janes map together and he mixes himself a red drink with a celery in it and there i had to think about what red jonhs misstress said: I wonder that you didnt become best friends when you shook his hand because you are so similar....i remeber also an episode where jane drank that same drink....and i dont believe in conincidents at least not in tv shows. And also the fact that Kirkland killed the only guy who knew Red John in the Hospital and if he realy was hunting him why did he kill him? Besides that, in which way was jane and Mc Allester similar? And also that this weirdo was tapping all of their phones....i doubt that he would have the skills to just listen to FBI agents. Next to that when Bertram was in the Church and was about to shoot Jane he said that he didnt know Red John and that he was a high ranked member...i dont see a point in lying to a man that i am certain to kill in a few moments. So i would realy appreciate if someone help me with that

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Just a thanks and farewell.  Your theories and comments provided many hours of pleasure.  I'm among those royally p***** at Heller's (random, unconvincing, illogical) choice of Red John.  Many theories posted here were magnitudes better in every way.  I'll re-watch episodes up till 6.8.  Everything after is pathetic.  Thanks for all the fish.

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