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Just posted THEORY# 10938

In the very least -- THINK OSCAR ARDILES MAY BE AT THE TOP OF TYGER TYGER

Whether or not he's RJ is another question?

INTERESTING NOTE:  Heller grew up in ENGLAND but his father is German:  V and W in German are pronounced the same so the name OSVALDO would actually be pronounced OS-WALDO -- as in WHERE'S WALDO?

Also -- Osvaldo Ardiles [though called OSSIE in the UK] is a real person -- a latino FOOTBALL coach in UK


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The Great Red Dragon IS Satan, and Satan creates TWO BEASTS to work for him

1st BEAST [part lion, bear, leopard] from the SEA [which can mean nation of people] is called the ANTICHRIST -- SPREADER OF BLASPHEMY; has likeness of Satan w/ 7 heads and 10 horns & crowns [meaning 7 POSITIONS OF POWER/POLITICAL or GOVERNMENT LEADERS and AUTHORITIES
               ** ONE of the HEADs is hurt but then healed to show the power so no one will challenge it.  The purpose is to put FEAR IN THE MIND of people to control them.

-----SOUNDS like Jane's list of "7 Suspects" and the TYGER TYGER organization ["a Beast" of sorts]

2nd BEAST is from the LAND, [two heads/horns] is a FALSE PROPHET or ANTI-HOLY SPIRIT, ensuring the success of BLASPHEMY amongst mankind.   This FALSE PROPHET appears to "heal" others  --- yet real agenda is self glorification -- a deceiver -- often using PSYCHIC abilities and powers experienced as part of "an enlightenment process" [even though in truth leads to self delusion and separation from God]

-----SOUNDS a bit like BRET STILES -- and even the now "reformed" Patrick Jane from his "former life"

      The "Mark of the Beast" [called "666" but by no means having to actually look like that is thought to be put on foreheads and hands of mankind -- but this is translated simply as a MARK, a BRAND, or even a BUSINESS LOGO that people adhere to, worship and work for -- it's ANY KIND OF symbol that is put IN THE MINDS or used THROUGH THE HANDS of people -- who may or may not realize that they are serving a "false idol"

-----SOUNDS like the use of THE VISUALIZE LOGO and the 3 DOT TATTOO

OF COURSE, THE STORY GOES that eventually the TWO BEASTS get thrown into the lake of "Fire & Brimstone" --- just as TYGER TYGER and BRET STILES/HAFFNER/VISUALIZE are both about to experience in the latest episode

BUT, the question still remains:  WHO IS RJ?  And how does ANY of THIS relate to RJ?  
1) Is RJ simply a part of the Beasts  -- a TT and/or Visualize member?  Like one of the 7 Suspects  -- or
2) Is RJ unrelated to any of this?   Someone working from afar, a ghost of sorts, like Kirkland Twin or from Jane's past? 
OR3)  IF RJ is meant to represent Satan -- the Great Red Dragon himself, is he IN CHARGE of, ruling over ALL THE SUSPECTS?    

By sheer coincidence, I HEARD A RADIO SHOW this morning on the car radio that talked about SATAN:  that said that Satan -- who was known as Lucifer, meaning "morning star", was called the most "perfect angel" by God.  BUT, Lucifer fell in love with his own power and beauty, becoming narcissistic and PROUD, and wanted to BE WORSHIPPED instead of having TO WORSHIP.  THUS,  PRIDE was the very first sin.  And the story goes -- Lucifer was cast out of heaven, put down to the earth and thus called SATAN == which means ACCUSER

Interestingly, I also just read that SATAN IS THE ULTIMATE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY 

I have run through many suspect possibilities -- including Ellis Mars, Kristina Frye and the Kirkland twin BUT
IF RJ is meant to represent SATAN -- THEN he must exist as a very powerful character on the show -- HE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEONE ABOVE RANK OF ANY OF THE TT members we've met -- and also more powerful than STILES such that both TT and BS either work for him [as the TWO BEASTS WORK FOR SATAN] or understand that they are the little people underneath him

In the least, TT and Stiles FEAR HIM, HAVE to put up with him as a necessary evil -- perhaps a bit of both, though perhaps it is not entirely known to them who RJ is 


SO, who has the most power over all of these people?  The ATTORNEY GENERAL?  Throughout the show -- the "AG" is repeatedly mentioned -- but there's no character we've been shown who is this person.  

NEXT IN LINE is:  THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY GENERAL but again, there's no character we've met who represents this high office -- the closest characters to the AG are 1) Assistant District Attorney OSCAR ARDILES, and Rigsby's Baby Momma, SARAH HARRIGAN, also an Assistant District Attorney


AND, GALE BERTRAM -- Gale Bertram reports to the Attorney General and is referred to as the Deputy Attorney General on Mentalist wiki

---- CAN ANYONE THINK OF any high ranking political character we've met -- higher than ARDILES?  I can't. 

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Hey guys is there going to be a Canadian link for the new episode tonight?

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Hey guys I was going to record the show tomorrow night and noticed that the title is from last weeks episode. Is anyone else seeing the same?

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Oscar ardiles.....statements in S04E01......oscar voice is similar 2 red john...no 1 has tought abt this....

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Has anyone noticed that none of the characters in this series are shown as being married??? Whats up with that? And one other thing, Ive always thought that the word the man wrote in the bathtub wall in mexico was "married", (He is Mar)ried...

Cheers.

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Oscar is the only person who could be Red John. Why? I have 2 different
reasons. One, internal to the plot of the show: Red John has a strong
network of followers in all levels of California Law Enforcement. Oscar
is the Assistant District Attorney, so he is at the top of the law
enforcement food chain. Also he has access, through normal legal
channels, to lots of information on Patrick, the Red John case, and any other criminals he may find useful. A monster like Red John has a very large ego, so in his professional life he would be in a place of prominence and authority.

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Two: this one steps outside the plot and looks at things from the Point
of View of the writers. Whom does a Mystery writer always want the Bad
Guy to turn out to be? The last person you would expect of course, as
well has someone who has been under your nose the whole time. How many
mysteries have concluded with the Bad Guy being either the person who
hired the detective, or the Sheriff who has been working with the
detective from the very start? Red John needs to be a character who has
been there, on the show, since very early on. Most of the people on
Patrick's list showed up later. I don't remember what episode Oscar
first appeared, but he has been there, in the background of California
Law Enforcement, from the very beginning. Also, aside from Lisbon's
team, I believe he is the only character left on the show who has been
there that long!

Lorelai Martins stated that Patrick has shaken
hands with Oscar. My theory is that she was mistaken.. perhaps Oscar
shakes hands with everyone, so she assumed they had shaken, but I'll be if we check the tapes Oscar and Patrick have never shaken hands.

Additionally, while there is not much evidence to go off of, I believe it is clear that Oscar is the kind of manipulative guy that Red John will turn out to be.

On a side note, I floated the idea that Patrick was Red John for a while, but more than once we know exactly where Patrick was when Red John was killing somebody.

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