Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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One Partridge-advocate made an interesting point saying we degrade actual clues to red herrings too easily. I want to clarify why that is NOT the case. Each suspect has his red herrings, meant to mislead the viewer. I will summon a few.

1) Partridge: his voice; his admiration of bloodworks.

2) Kirkland: Do I know you? - No, but I know you; the twin-story.

3) Bertram: I am many things to many people; 666; his secret Tiger club.

4) Haffner: Lisbon's dreamthe spider.

5) McAllister: Call me Tom; fear of heights, Tiger club.

6) Smith: The Red Is Me; Tiger club.

7) Stiles: the red face-painting during his ceremony, the mindreading on Grace. 


Ofcourse, there are a whole bunch more of them that have been found during the years. But you have to look trough them. And focus on what happens story-wise. Personaly I could only find some real clues on Haffner's side:

- Lisbon tells Jane Haffner (ex-FBI) is good at wiretapping -> Lisbon calls to LaRoche about Sally Carter -> Haffner is busy and agitated, not interested in the case anymore -> Sally Carter is found dead, just in time, with fake suicide note comfirming Timothy Carter as Red John -> Haffner thought coast was clear after Jane shot (a fake) RJ, now he realises he celebrated too early -> he knowingly falls for Jane's trick and gets the hell out of his environment.

- Three Red Barn murders -> Haffner wants to discuss business with Lisbon -> in fact he is more interested in the case and the names on Coopers archivelist from 1988 -> he's not contented yet because the mother and her daughter are only accused of one Red Barn murder instead of three -> he uses his client-alibi -> Lisbon is starting to suspect he was not only Visualize but also personaly involved. 

- A nurse asks about Carmen Lee -> Jane out of the blue makes a call to Sophie Miller -> later on Haffner walks in with a lot of Red John questions.

- Lisbon asks Cooper where Haffner is, not his habit to leave without proper goodbye -> Cooper tells he's at a client (alibi again) -> the spy gets murdered, just in time

- Looked like a clue, but cannot been included as such because it can be a coinsidence + not important enough story-wise: RJ drinks thee with his left hand, Haffner makes a call with his left hand. Not enough to be named a clue so let's keep it on a herring for now. Same thing with the 'Heisman'-theory. Even the real RJ has his apparent deceptions - it would strike too much if he didn't.


So, a red herring is an event standing on his own (oneliner, coded name, description, fobies, interviews with makers/actors) without story-wise relevance, while a clue is an essential continuation-part of the tale.

Other clues:
- The pidgeons, linked to Partridge's dead and to Lisbon's happy memory.
- Jane returning on Partridge, Red John returning on Jane 
- Partridge misspeaking about Lorelei (plausible he helped RJ, not for sure)
- Kirkland's three coffees for two (still unclear)
- etc.


So I hope you can see the difference :) Ofcourse, there can be room for discussion whether an occurence is relevant enough to be called a clue or not. 

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Hello, guys.

I still think Red John is Gale Bertram. Some people here have posted theories based on character's names. Ok, let's go:
Gale is a common unisex given name. It is derived from the Hebrew name Abigail, meaning "Happy God; Father in rejoicing; a father's joy; cheerful; joyful." Source: Wikipidia.

Bertram: This interesting surname of some antiquity derives from the Old Germanic personal name Bertram, a compound of the elements "berht", bright or famous, plus "hrabn", raven. The raven was the bird of Odin, King of the gods, in Germanic mythology. Source: https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Bertram

But the name it's not so relevant as the personality traits of the character. Bertram is an intelectual person, he quotes "Moby Dick" and a poem by William Blake. And he also plays Pocker (although he acts like he isn't a good player, so Jane helped him). 

In episode The desert rose, 06x01, how could Partidge lock yourself in that wardrobe? I guess there are 2 possibilities for the big clue in this episode:

1. The door, whiche opens up alone. This means there is someone in the house.

2. I almost see some shadow of a spider in the curtin. that means Ray Haffner could be spooked by this spider, since he has aracnophobia. (C'mon, I don't believe it)

I think it's Bertram. Rewatch the episode when Bertram first appears, "Red sky at night" (3x01)...Both Gale Bertram and Michael Gaston deserves this honor.

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Theory #11655 • By Stoopkid
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Gnosticism is the key to this all. William blake was a proclaimed gnostic. Gnosticism is basically that God is really the devil(masculine) and Satan (feminine) is really God! Think about the male dominated police force of tiger tiger . On the surface they are good and the law but really its an illusion . Red john is feminine . He she has been a scapegoat for all wrong in the show but its not true . The great red dragon is without a doubt a woman. The mother dragon. Satan is the divine feminine energy that is rising not only in this show but in reality! Take a look around in culture its impossible to ignore the female energy rising in the world. Gnosticism was what jesus and his dicisples studied. Mary magdeline was the key to it all. Then the male dominated roman catholic church took that religion flipped it and made zillions , started every war , and is the cause of thr most deaths in history.

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If Reede Smith is Red John, I swear China will finally snap and fire nukes at the USA - CBS Headquarters. I hope they target Heller's house too if this is the case. Yes Britain, you're not getting off the hook that easy.

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Theory #11652 • By partridge995
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I had dream before few days that Partridge is Red John BUT Bertram killed him in the first episode and he will admit to Jane that he killed him when he meets him in the eighth episode :( 

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We have covered Red John to be the 7 suspects, Jane himself, the CBI gang, Mashburn, Red John is gay, the pigeon flying in the barn 

The only theory left, is that RED JOHN is Loerlei Martins

"He is Mar" can be He is Martins, RJ probably had sex change or Renfrew has never heard of Wren and Martin whatever, it's fiction after all.

Bruno Heller has said, that Red John is the Keyser Soze (of the Usual Suspect Kevin Spacey fame) of Mentalist.

What if Loreloi was Red John afterall? And she built up this fake image of Red John.

Red John loves Jane more than himself now, according to one of the theories that I read.

Lorelei Martins is coming back in Great Red Dragon.

If this is not crazy enough, then please read my other theory

http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/11591

It's crazy! But isn't Mentalist about being crazy. What say?

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guys, i've been having scary dreams of being on jane's team and trying to setup a trap to catch red john and finding clues...   anyone else having the same dreams?

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