Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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With every new RJ episode, I am more and more convinced that he is not just one guy.  Used a gun/shotgun here, a linoleum knife there, poison on Rebecca (I believe he personally killed her - she wouldn't be so happy if it had been someone else walking towards her). And then you have Miranda, who was the only raped girl. I don't know anymore, the show is driving me crazy and that is why I love it. I was thinking about RJ's MO, but there isn't one. He killed girls in their homes, and killed those who insulted him. He killed Jared, fearing he would rat him out. And he killed Hicks, a CBI agent.

And here you have the second biggest mistake in the show, right behind not pressing Stiles to sing everything he knows about RJ. That second mistake is - they knew what was going to happen to Panzer, and they didn't put surveillance on him. They could've caught RJ that easily. And also, Panzer and Jacqueline insulted RJ, so he killed THEM. But when Jane spoke about RJ - he killed his family.

After Red barn, we know a little bit more. But what about the symbol ? So far we learned that RJ places it so it can be seen first, paints it with victim's blood. And now we know that the symbol was painted on the barn before Talbot and Charney were killed. Did that "kid" kill those two ? And why ? This season is seriously messing with our minds.

Right now, you can't name one suspect with him matching all the things we know about RJ. But you can see who RJ is not. And he is not :

1) Partridge -> For the love of God, people - stop thinking it's him ! His voice is similar to RJ's altered voice, not his real. They did that to throw you off, yet you are persistent it is so easy and he is RJ. Brace of Partridge ? Do you know how stupid that is ? Jane calls him out in the pilot, saying he reads Fangoria, which is a slasher magazine. RJ is to Partridge what Jordan is to Scalabrine, that's all.

2) Kirkland -> Stop mentioning that scene when Jane shakes his hand. We've all seen it, there is nothing there. It doesn't matter that Lorelei wasn't there to see that handshake. If there was something there for you believers, they didn't have enough time to become enemies since then. And we know PJ and RJ don't get along since that meeting.

3) Alex Jane -> Yes, he could've killed his daughter-in-law and his granddaughter for revenge, but that is sick. And what is his motive for the victims prior to Jane's family ? Makes no sense.

4) Danny Ruskin -> Why would he kill his sister and little niece ? And what is his motive for the earlier victims ? Also makes no sense.

5) Amos Van Pelt -> Stop writing about football conection and He is ma being Heisman. RJ will not turn out to be an organization founded by Amos Van Pelt, Notre Dame's defensive coordinator and Alabama's offensive coordinator. In the pilot, Jane tells GVP "Didn't dad always say "Life is like football. After that final whistle blows, that's the end. No more, no otherside""  And that is his only similarity with RJ.

5) Grace Van Pelt -> Oh dear God, how many idiots are there saying she had sex-change surgery and she is RJ ! Like uncle Einy said - human stupidity is infinite ! Same goes to those saying PJ is RJ.

6) Bertram - Someone who recited Blake's poem right in front of Lisbon can not be RJ. She later found that RJ recited Blake to PJ, and she could've connected those dots and tell Jane. This show will not be that lame.

7) Red sweater dude from S3 finale - he was there to make you question yourself, nothing more.

8) RJ is not Stiles, LaRoche, Ardiles, Mashburn, Haffner, Cho, Rigsby, Royston Daniel, Wagner, Molinari, Harken.

Some of the viable options left are Minelli, Mars, Cooper and we will add more once Jane gives us some big big names in the next episode.

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First off, even though this is a theory that accuses Patrick Jane of being Red John it is more than obvious that at the end of the show someone else will be revealed as the serial killer. Jane being John would be far too classy for the general audience that seems to prefer rather cliched character constellations.

Regarding all those comments that don't get tired of pointing out that this and that episode supposedly makes it impossible for Jane to be John I'd like to say that there is one episode that invalidates all impossibility claims regardless of what came before or thereafter: The episode in which Jane killed Red John only to learn that the man he had killed wasn't Red John.

"How can John talk to Jane if Jane himself is John? How can John touch Jane if Jane himself is John?"

Answer: The Red John who touched and talked to Jane wasn't Red John. Just as the Red John who was killed by Jane wasn't Red John. That means every person presented to the audience as Red John is possibly not Red John. The man who was killed by Jane wasn't just an imposter who tried to be Red John on the weekends or some henchman trying to cover his boss by claiming to be his boss. No, the false Red John acted as if he really was or at least believed to be Red John (hypnotized by Jane?).  We only learn afterwards that he wasn't.

My point is Jane isn't John. But he should be. That would earn the show a place in the Olympus of TV shows. Maybe my hopes are fulfilled and at the end of the season another false Red John is revealed. And after three false Red Johns Jane finally realizes that he is the real one pulling the strings in the background.

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I personally think Minelli is obviously Red John. We already know that Jane has met him and that he has always appeared to be a good alllie of Jane. He also comes out of retirement at one point to help Jane. He also at times, appears to be against investigations against Red John. He feels that Jane should not investigate on it as much as he wishes, says it messes with his head and that its not good for his health.
I think that he has an alibi, by making people work for him. He seems intelligent, very careful about his actions and a hard worker. His personality suits him, plus it would be a bit stupid to make Red John a criminal. He seems the perfect fit

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The Red John is Patrick Jane's father ;) It's clear, I really don't get, that nobody else see it .. :-)

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I'm not going to explain why I think it's CBI Ron, because everybody has already given all of my examples...But I'm just going to give what I think would be a cool scenario for the rest of the series:

What if, at the end of season 5, Red John uses all of his resources to frame Patrick Jane and make everybody think that HE is Red John(even the fans of the show) by making all of the evidence point to Patrick...Then, during the trial, something is said that sparks a thought in Patrick's brain, and he figures out who RJ is, but he needs Lisbon to bust him out of jail so that he can prove who the REAL Red John is...of course, everybody will be trying to hunt down Patrick after he escapes, and finally, with 100 guns drawn on Patrick, he does one of his fancy tricks or whatever to explain who is actually Red John, and then they arrest him....(this 99% probably wont happen, but I thought that would be kind of cool)

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Im sure the producers of this show do not yet know who RJ is! Think about it.. To make sure its does not leak out who RJ is they made a decision to decide who RJ is when the series ends.

The producers will sit around a round table when the mentalist is going to be axed and decide who is RJ.

Pure genious to keep the internet massive guessing :)

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