Red John is obviously not Patrick Jane or anyone of the obvious suspects seen in recent videos.
In fact the poem about fearful symmetry could mean that RJ has a twin. If he is a pair of twin brothers working together, they could make people into thinking that they are the same person and create alibis claiming that they were somewhere else during a crime.
Okay i'm really pissed at whoever wanted to switch The Mentalist to Sunday it is always be canceled by a Football game or something i don't care about i wanted to watch The Mentalist every week instead of every two or three ....... Who is with me?
There is also another man very suspicious and he can be considered like
Waldo: in 3x24 when Timothy Carter answers the phone there is a man with a
red sweater sitting ahead of him. The man watches Patrick and when he
stands up to talk to Timothy, the man goes away. But look at the table:
there is a mug and the handle of the mug is on the left side (Roy
Tagliaferro in 4x13 holds the mug with his left hand).
And look at the floor: the man is sitting in the middle of the hall in a red circle (you can see it better at the end of the episode, there is an aerial shot).
The same man appears also in 4x09. We can see him twice at the CBI terrace/restaurant: the first time he is walking (min. 15:04);
the second time he is reading a newspaper while Patrick and Teresa are eating an ice cream (it is at the end of the episode).
that's what the Mentalist writers said about the scene in which Jane meets Carter in the mall: "To be honest, this is the most important scene since the pilot, and will be till the end of the series".
Now, remember what Patrick said in the pilot: "Why do magicians have beautiful girl assistants? Because they’re reliable distracters of attention. People will look at a
beautiful girl for a long time before they look where they should be
looking if they want to see how the trick really works" (min. 34:31).
Well, maybe Red John used the same trick:
Timothy is the girl assistant (ok, he isn't "beautiful" :D, but he is charismatic, isn't he?) and the man with the red sweater can be the magician, or Red John, if you prefer.
I haven't a clue who it is........
But it's doing my head in :/
Love the show, but iam a bit behind here in the UK
First of all Kirkland is not RJ for the simple reason that when he shook hands with PJ, Lorelei was in PRISON and didnt know that(i believe though that kirkland is one of Rj's friends in the FBI).I believe Bret Stiles knows many things about RJ(maybe one of his best friends but he is not RJ) and he will be the one who will help PJ with his list in S5(either to help RJ or PJ)I really cant understand which side he is.Before the last episode i was more convinced in the Partridge theory but when PJ talks with the priest at the elevator gives us to understand that RJ must be at least 40 years old...The theory about van pelt is just ridiculous i believe...I also disagree with the theory that PJ is RJ
I think Red John is Jane's brother.
I dont know anyone mentioned about it but the tiger poem says "what immortal hand or eye could frame thy fearful symmetry"
So i think that symmetry is Jane's brother. Twin maybe
Ok thas was really far guess I accept that
But its an option.
My second man is Brett Partridge.
His voice is the same as Red John.
Not only his voice. Whenever we have a fake Red John case he shows up to investigate.
And Jack Plotnick has a perfect villain face to be Red John.
If Jane is Red John that would be so simple. I dont think scenarists would do that.
Im watching 5x05 right now. So these are my guesses so far.
With every new RJ episode, I am more and more convinced that he is not just one guy. Used a gun/shotgun here, a linoleum knife there, poison on Rebecca (I believe he personally killed her - she wouldn't be so happy if it had been someone else walking towards her). And then you have Miranda, who was the only raped girl. I don't know anymore, the show is driving me crazy and that is why I love it. I was thinking about RJ's MO, but there isn't one. He killed girls in their homes, and killed those who insulted him. He killed Jared, fearing he would rat him out. And he killed Hicks, a CBI agent.
And here you have the second biggest mistake in the show, right behind not pressing Stiles to sing everything he knows about RJ. That second mistake is - they knew what was going to happen to Panzer, and they didn't put surveillance on him. They could've caught RJ that easily. And also, Panzer and Jacqueline insulted RJ, so he killed THEM. But when Jane spoke about RJ - he killed his family.
After Red barn, we know a little bit more. But what about the symbol ? So far we learned that RJ places it so it can be seen first, paints it with victim's blood. And now we know that the symbol was painted on the barn before Talbot and Charney were killed. Did that "kid" kill those two ? And why ? This season is seriously messing with our minds.
Right now, you can't name one suspect with him matching all the things we know about RJ. But you can see who RJ is not. And he is not :
1) Partridge -> For the love of God, people - stop thinking it's him ! His voice is similar to RJ's altered voice, not his real. They did that to throw you off, yet you are persistent it is so easy and he is RJ. Brace of Partridge ? Do you know how stupid that is ? Jane calls him out in the pilot, saying he reads Fangoria, which is a slasher magazine. RJ is to Partridge what Jordan is to Scalabrine, that's all.
2) Kirkland -> Stop mentioning that scene when Jane shakes his hand. We've all seen it, there is nothing there. It doesn't matter that Lorelei wasn't there to see that handshake. If there was something there for you believers, they didn't have enough time to become enemies since then. And we know PJ and RJ don't get along since that meeting.
3) Alex Jane -> Yes, he could've killed his daughter-in-law and his granddaughter for revenge, but that is sick. And what is his motive for the victims prior to Jane's family ? Makes no sense.
4) Danny Ruskin -> Why would he kill his sister and little niece ? And what is his motive for the earlier victims ? Also makes no sense.
5) Amos Van Pelt -> Stop writing about football conection and He is ma being Heisman. RJ will not turn out to be an organization founded by Amos Van Pelt, Notre Dame's defensive coordinator and Alabama's offensive coordinator. In the pilot, Jane tells GVP "Didn't dad always say "Life is like football. After that final whistle blows, that's the end. No more, no otherside"" And that is his only similarity with RJ.
5) Grace Van Pelt -> Oh dear God, how many idiots are there saying she had sex-change surgery and she is RJ ! Like uncle Einy said - human stupidity is infinite ! Same goes to those saying PJ is RJ.
6) Bertram - Someone who recited Blake's poem right in front of Lisbon can not be RJ. She later found that RJ recited Blake to PJ, and she could've connected those dots and tell Jane. This show will not be that lame.
7) Red sweater dude from S3 finale - he was there to make you question yourself, nothing more.
8) RJ is not Stiles, LaRoche, Ardiles, Mashburn, Haffner, Cho, Rigsby, Royston Daniel, Wagner, Molinari, Harken.
Some of the viable options left are Minelli, Mars, Cooper and we will add more once Jane gives us some big big names in the next episode.