Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Okay, so I put Walter because I am still hopeful I am right + I want to see Walter! Let's face it, my Walter theory stands more of a chance than the fake death theories. That's so been done and is a cop out on the shows part if any turn out to be true. Only one of those I can say would make sense is Kirkland's twin brother.

I just wanted to make a few points mostly non-related to Red John's identity:

Does anybody else find it weird that Red John is going to be discovered on episode 8? And it is Red John because of the voice he used in the church. I mean the seasons typically have around 20 episodes. What will the show do for the rest of the season? Is Red John not going to die yet? Or will the rest of the season focus on The Blake Association?

Why did Stiles say some time ago that he knew more than Jane or Red John? I still want to see this loose end be tied up.

Another loose end, why did Kirkland kill that guy who worked for Red John and say that he hoped someone would do this for him were he in the same position one day? Was it a mercy killing to keep Red John from brutally killing the guy? Or did Kirkland actually work for Red John? Was that not Kirkland and actually Kirkland's evil twin? I'm so confused by this one!

I would like to say this, Bertram's last killing was sloppy and left fingerprints, also he is running. Not like Red John to run or try to kill Jane in such a public place and not in the usual Red John way. Just saying, I think Jane made Bertram the obvious scapegoat for police attention and to lure Red John on to kill this impersonator receiving his credit like he killed those two mimickers.

I for one was pleased with this episode, even though I'm kinda sad that Haffner is dead. I felt like Jane and Lisbon got back to acting like themselves and the team got back into their close knit sync. Plus, we saw more Cho who has been extremely absent in the mess of that stupid list. >,<

I am confused by this - McAllister, Smith, Bertram, and Jane all went to the wall. Haffner and Stiles were on the couch. Haffner and Stiles died, together, but how was McAllister the only one with the other three that died. If he died, shouldn't all the others? Also, we never found out what the gunshot was. Something here is missing. Too many loose ends and Jane is either not remembering or withholding.

I am glad to see Smith out of the running. That would have been the most disappointing of the ones STILL ALIVE!

Tyger Tyger...where to start... Well, the group is made of FBI, judges, and cops - all law enforcement. Cho of the CBI knows the Tyger Tyger poem, remember? I actually think the not-around-as-much CBI agent Cho may be in the group. Maybe he did something real bad that he's buried deep. Also, Smith didn't know the leader of the group...maybe the leader of The Blake Association has money (cough Mashburn) instead of being law enforcement. Maybe the leader was Stiles, who knows more than Jane and Red John ever will. Perhaps, he pulls Red John's strings. Or maybe it is some smoe. Smoe rhymes with Cho...NOOOOO! Maybe the smiley face represents the fact that Cho is smiling...on the inside.

Oh, and let's not forget that farm for Stiles' group that had the Red John face painted on the side had something to do with Red John's early killing. He killed two guys, supposedly. Haffner worked on the farm around that time, but he's dead. So, who did? This is a huge clue I wish we knew more about.

Speaking of the smiley face. I would like to know why on earth Red John would want to kill Partridge. Was he a disposable way to draw CBI in to paint the smiley face on her? And why on earth did the face look different. Red John is OCD. Everything must done the same way, every time until more recent. Like when he killed Jane's old, lady friend, he put the face on a sticky note and he put her in the oven. That's new! And of course Red John would kill his little fanboy because 1. he's useless and disposable and 2. he's got a big mouth. But what is the meaning or significance of the smiley? Jane washed it off Lisbon and didn't tell anyone about the difference in the face. Perhaps, Red John didn't like the "list" getting credit for his work and couldn't help but leave Jane with a little hint. This makes me think it's someone from Jane's childhood, not his father (although that would be an amazing twist, how do you "become friends" with your father "the moment you shook hands"?). 

I have been having trouble spotting a potential clue left by Heller at the end of the episode every since the client list, which by the way I know I said that Michael Washburn was pointing toward Walter Mashburn (which would be so genius in so many literary ways, which is just like the poetic Red John who recites the poem). I think it is possible Michael Washburn = Michael Kirkland, but Mashburn would be 10 times better. Anyway, the last episode I spotted two potential clues.
1. The favorite tea cup
2. When Jane sits down at the church, there is an awkward moment where the camera flashes to Jane's upper leg as he sits. It was so weird, but only a flash. Somehow, this could be the clue since it was so out of place and so sudden you could easily miss it. God, I need the trailer to freeze it and screen shot or listen to the audio louder for a strange sound or something. Maybe it wasn't Jane's leg...maybe it was Red John's!

Okay, and one last thing. I know we've heard Red John's voice over the phone, etc. but something about the promo when I heard Red John's voice, it was so familiar. Not Red John familiar, but other character or actor familiar. I hope it hits me cause that would be awesome, but it's going to drive me crazy otherwise. I need zat promo stat! :P

Anyway, remember "He is Ma..."

- Tina

And I see the promo is up, I will begin watching over and over... >:D

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Just because there is a scene in the next episode with McAllister still alive and running through a window with a bullet in him, does not anywhere indicate that he is Red John whatsoever. All it indicates is that he is still alive and the deaths at PJ's house were probably faked to some extent. 

I somehow don’t think the producers are going to reveal who Red John is in the promo, even if it's only a glimpse.

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Ok I think the sheriff is RJ. He got the bomb with him in his hat. The
hat is lying on the couch all the time, even when the three guys with
the tattoos are lined up in front of Jane away from the couch area.
Now something happened, there was a gunshot, someone cried out 'no..'
Maybe
the only way out for RJ was to detonate the bomb. He knew he was far
enough from it not to be seriously injured. He caused the explosion and
made his escape somehow. Is it possible he planted his DNA at the site
to make it look like he died?
The bomb seems to have been near the couch area from the way the site looks after the explosion.

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Quick question guys


How come they never explained the gunshot in Patricks's house?

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Theory #11893 • By Hattrick_Jane
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Bruno Heller's favourite singer is Bob Marley

That is why he intends McAllister to be Red john, so that after killing him, Patrick can sing

"I shot the Sheriff"

But finding out from the promo that McAllister s RJ is a dissapointment. More so McAllister as RJ is a dissapointment, not that he can't pull off the role, but heller made us believe he is someone who is very intrinsic to the plot and not someone like the Sheriff who appears lesser times on the series than Cho's smile.


From the Promo this is RJ aka McAllster. Link courtesy Theory #11884
 
 http://o1311.hizliresim.com/1h/l/unkm2.jpg

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Haha, yes! Gonna gloat for a moment.

As many have freeze framed the promo and seen that RJ is the Sheriff.

See my previous theory here:


http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/10962



This is setting up to be an epic ending to this story. Also was a nice tease thrown out as Bertram being "Mr. Thomas" at the storage facility. I love this show, and Red John's real voice. Let's face it, McAllister has had the best scenes with Hane this season.

Can't believe they put that shot in the promo though.

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I have a different theory. I think Bertram is too obvious, plus if Bertram is Red John, I don't think he would have made the mistake of trying to kill Jane at the hospital. I don't think the sheriff or Reede Smith fit RJ's profile and as far as Brett Partridge faking his death because he is RJ, Jane has always said he is a "ghoul" but he seems too young, immature, and nervously jumpy around Jane. I think Partridge is/was a RJ groupie, but not Red John.

My theory is that Bob Kirkland's twin brother is Red John. This makes a lot of sense. His twin would fit RJ's profile, his voice seems right, and if he is a twin, he could have been confused with Bob Kirkland when he met Jane.

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