Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Is anybody else wondering where the con is? Patrick is known for his long cons to catch people from week to week, yet the last 2 episodes have shown no signs of any kind of con. At least none that I can spot. I feel like we are missing some key info such as the gun shot before the explosion. Something is going on that we, the audience, haven't been privy to as of yet. Not sure if any of the team is in on the con or if it's just Patrick by himself, but there is no way that there isn't some kind of scam going on. Maybe McAllister is in on it, but I just don't know. For the first time since the show began, I am completely lost and I hate admitting that.

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Well, this episode just continued the trend of season 6 so far.
Eliminate one suspect on the list after another, until no one is left.
So RJ could basically be ANYONE.

If we take the list:
Partidge: dead (but we never saw the face of the body, Cho inspected)
Kirkland: dead (for sure, but what about the twin brother?)
Stiles,
McAllister, Haffner: dead (but not confirmed?, only thing we saw was
their pictures on the wall and a foot on the ground at the scene. Jane,
Smith and Bertram survived, so why not someone else?)
Smith: in custody
Bertram: alive, on the run.

So it is Bertram, right? Well, no. Bertram wanted to kill Jane, because he knew about Tyger, Tyger.
PJ is driven by his hate for RJ. He wants to take revenge. Jane wants to
kill RJ, not have him arrested. So why tell the media RJs identity, so
that every law enforcement agency is on the manhunt for him? Right, he
wouldn't. He wants Bertram arrested, because he is a high ranking member
of Tyger, tyger.

So where does that leave us?
I really, don't know, but there is still a major plot hole, that hasn't been revealed.
What about the gunshot before the explosion and the explosion itself.
Who fired a gun? Was anyone shot?
And
who set of the bomb? If it was RJ, why would he set up an explosion,
while being in the room? He would have to calculate a possibility of
dying himself, by doing such a thing/ And suicide sounds nothing like
anything RJ would do.
So the assumption would be, that RJ was not in the room.
So
that leaves a couple of dead persons (Partridge, Kirkland, the twin,
even Bosco [they showed his dead again, shot in the ribcage, a shot you
could survive...], or the new detective or Mashburn or.., or...).

I
am not going to make a pick here, because throughout the show I have
been 100% certain to know who RJ is so many times (from Stiles to La
Roche to Partridge to Haffner and back and so on) and one episode away from the reveal, I am clueless again.

Who
I want it to be: Partridge, because Jack Plotnick is a terrific actor
and portrayed Partridge the way I would imagine RJ to be. Highly
intelligent, skilled and icredibly creepy. But it is so very unlikely he is still alive and RJ.

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Well, this episode just continued the trend of season 6 so far.
Eliminate one suspect on the list after another, until no one is left.
So RJ could basically be ANYONE.

If we take the list:
Partidge: dead (but we never saw the face of the body, Cho inspected)
Kirkland: dead (for sure, but what about the twin brother?)
Stiles,
McAllister, Haffner: dead (but not confirmed?, only thing we saw was
their pictures on the wall and a foot on the ground at the scene. Jane,
Smith and Bertram survived, so why not someone else?)
Smith: in custody
Bertram: alive, on the run.

So it is Bertram, right? Well, no. Bertram wanted to kill Jane, because he knew about Tyger, Tyger.
PJ is driven by his hate for RJ. He wants to take revenge. Jane wants to
kill RJ, not have him arrested. So why tell the media RJs identity, so
that every law enforcement agency is on the manhunt for him? Right, he
wouldn't. He wants Bertram arrested, because he is a high ranking member
of Tyger, tyger.

So where does that leave us?
I really, don't know, but there is still a major plot hole, that hasn't been revealed.
What about the gunshot before the explosion and the explosion itself.
Who fired a gun? Was anyone shot?
And
who set of the bomb? If it was RJ, why would he set up an explosion,
while being in the room? He would have to calculate a possibility of
dying himself, by doing such a thing/ And suicide sounds nothing like
anything RJ would do.
So the assumption would be, that RJ was not in the room.
So
that leaves a couple of dead persons (Partridge, Kirkland, the twin,
even Bosco [they showed his dead again, shot in the ribcage, a shot you
could survive...], or the new detective or Mashburn or.., or...).

I
am not going to make a pick here, because throughout the show I have
been 100% certain to know who RJ is so many times (from Stiles to La
Roche to Partridge to Haffner and back and so on) and one episode away from the reveal, I am clueless again.

Who
I want it to be: Partridge, because Jack Plotnick is a terrific actor
and portrayed Partridge the way I would imagine RJ to be. Highly
intelligent, skilled and icredibly creepy. But it is so very unlikely he is still alive and RJ.

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Yeah, so it's pretty clear now, isn't it? After watching the extended promo, I think this is how it's gonna be in 6x08:

1. McCallister joins Patrick in church, they have a nice talk, one of those "mentalist" conversations. (I wonder when did Patrick realize that McCallister survived the esplosion, because I'm sure he knew that Sheriff is Red John by the time he decided to go to church) ;)

2. Patrick shoots McCallister, but for some reason doesn't kill him. If I didn't see the promo, I would think that Patrick would spare him for some reason, or just let him live for some time, or maybe decided to give him to the police, but now I'm pretty sure that McCallister just manages to escape somehow..

3. The final man hunt begins. At one point, McCallister "visits" some house, enters it by breaking through glass door, as we see in promo. He bleeds, because of the events in church. 

4. a) Later, both Patrick and McCallister are on the graveyard, McCallister is running from Jane. The question is: what were they doing on the graveyard? How did they get there?

b) Jane's team and the FBI are also on the scene somehow, not sure what role they play yet.

5. As we know, in the end Patrick strangles Red John. We didn't know how would he manage to do it, since pretty much every suspect was stronger than Jane. Now we know  - McCallister is wounded very seriously and Patrick can probably overpower him easly.  

And I guess that's how it goes I guess. Except... maybe McCallister is not Red John? I mean... Well, we all agree, that Bertram is not Red John, because it's too obvious. So because we are all here so very super smart, we found out, that McCallister must be Red John. Don't get me wrong, I'm almost sure, that the mysterious guy in the promo is McCallister... but maybe it's not Red John? Maybe that's just the final, ultimate red herring? The final trick? That would be something right?  :) I would very much like that... Or maybe after 6 1/2 seasons I getting a little paranoid? ;) Well, we'll see.

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"The game is over and I won"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQVYz7_8qeE
Listen to this line a couple of times @ 0:12.
Now listen to Kirklands voice here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcARXVv3WfQ
And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd12BGBWd00
And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MRlGFmPjw

PS: I do not think that Red John is in Blakes Association, why ? Because Lorelei Martins would definitely have the Tattoo on her shoulder, and she didn't. We were told that RJ doesn't like couple of people on the list, that's because he is Kirkland and Kirkland is trying to get rid of Blakes Assoc. , he knew the heads of BA will be sitting on the couch in PJ's house, he couldn't have guessed that Jane will take them to the wall, he didn't want to kill PJ, he knew he wasn't going to sit beside them for obvious reasons. 

What do you think ?

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Down to two! I think it's pretty clear from the 6x8 promo and the way the story has played out that Bertram is NOT RJ. Almost certainly connected to him and probably his right hand man. The "call" Bertram would make anytime he got big news would be to RJ of course.

It's really looking like Mcallister based on the promo pictures and IMO the door is still wide open for Partridge as well. They could have shut that door by having Cho confirm it really WAS him but instead chose to show just a sliced up shoulder. You can make the argument that Cho would have been able to tell if it was him or not but they obviously chose to leave it ambiguous instead of making it clear. It's possible the Sheriff is alive but Partridge is RJ.

So now we're down to the two characters that were shown in the first two episodes of the series, as it should be. My money is on the Sheriff but either way I'll be happy with the outcome . One week left!

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Theory #12205 • By sunsawed
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I think I have it. Red John is MICHAEL Kirkland. Here's the thing. The person we've been lead to believe is Robert Kirkland is actually Michael Kirkland.

We know when Michael was "Killed," he was shot by a known Tyger Tyger Head Guy, Reede Smith. The chain of Custody was him and the driver, another TT member. 

We know from "Bob" Kirkland told Jane that his brother got involved with Red John and he presumed killed him. That is why Kirkland supposedly got involved in the hunt for RJ.

Instead, RJ has been keeping his innocent brother in captivity all these years. Using BK's credentials and avenging his murder as motive he passed every background check, where MK certainly could not.

Also, why was TT so intent on killing Reede Smith? Because he's the only person on Earth that knows "Bob" is really Michael and switched the bodies to the freshly shot real Bob Kirkland, who would then be positively identified and buried with the CORRECT name on the grave.

When Kirkland was set to torture Jane, Jane knew he was Red John. But also he knew that if he accused him or let on that he knew, RJ would kill him on the spot. He has to convince Kirkland that he had been eliminated as a suspect in his mind. He also figured out that it was actually Michael because it was MICHAEL'S Property.

Why was RJ killing fake RJs? RJ gave him the List of 7. He's obviously trying to force Jane and the CBI to eliminate suspects until they are down to his chosen Patsy, Bertram. Jane and RJ know that accusing the head of the CBI will cause the Feds to rain hell on the CBI. That's why Jane goes with the plan and makes the big, public announcement.

How was it that Bertram was the only one to escape the blast unscathed? Because he knew it was coming. RJ set it up. When Jane took out the shotgun, he was doing what RJ wanted him to do, kill the last remaining RJ suspects like Kirkland was supposedly doing. So after Jane shoots Smith with a flesh wound, RJ or Bertram detonates the bomb, making sure all the other suspects are dead, except accidentally he loses Smith. He nearly kills Jane, which would put the CBI on a wild goose chase forever, attacking itself.

RJ has been trying to turn Jane into a Serial Killer. That is why he is tempting Jane to kill all the suspects, except the one he cannot kill, his Boss. RJ then makes Jane look like the primary suspect. Tyger Tyger clears Bertram and Jane goes to the Nut Ward and Red John retires.

That's why Jane has to walk away.

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