Who is Red John?

Share your own theory and rate other people’s

List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

LATEST THEORIES

A few things here. Firstly:

So has anyone tried to crack the code that was found in Bertram's storage locker? (BTW, I doubt that it's McAllister's storage unit - nobody calls anyone "Mr first name". There's no reason for her to do that, and Bertram would obviously use a false name for his storage unit, considering he appears to be the head of The Blake Association - Blake did the illustrations for THOMAS Gray's poems)

So back to the code - I started trying to decipher it. I found some interesting things that others might find helpful. I just don't have the time to continue with it now.

Have a look - http://i.imgur.com/sERqI83.png

Looking at the promos for next week's episode:

Freeze-frame and there is a single person in all the important shots - wearing the same clothing in all, which is how I got there. The person breaking through the glass looks like McAllister (trousers + black jacket) or a stunt double that looks identical to him. The man walking in to the church to meet Jane looks like McAllister (trousers + black jacket). The guy Jane is chasing in the graveyard looks like McAllister (trousers + black jacket). 

So either none of those shots are of Red John and McAllister is alive and Jane is after him for some other reason, or Red John is Sheriff McAllister...

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

 This is my theory based on some facts that I will quote below .

Ron is always in the middle of the group of Lisbon / Jane listening to
the conversations, going unnoticed , as in the following pictures ...



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F1LSrhfbpq0/Uop-9NE8HMI/AAAAAAAAB2s/1KxiR15h0r0/s493/b.png



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5Fi68qCQlhY/Uop-9B3TkTI/AAAAAAAAB2g/pO_9QOjax7c/s688/d.png



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8CtSCPQ-efE/Uop--G-rQiI/AAAAAAAAB3A/oITe9xwYu68/s500/f.png



https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TdBbBFA6JTA/Uop--XAZGiI/AAAAAAAAB3E/ZCDIk41g8rM/s512/g.png



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PuN0-VgjjcA/Uop--6Z0yaI/AAAAAAAAB3I/RY1QfULUqqU/s616/a.png

 

 



 but even there we can not conclude anything , now I'll post 5 important
points to think about Ron.

1 - Look at this picture of Ron clapping ( https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wwULfOeUIbE/Uop-9um1H-I/AAAAAAAAB20/Lv9nVnVWmmo/s496/e.png ), is the ep . 1x10 .

when Alex Nelson is invited to speak at the annual neuroscience
symposium .

Who was this ep ? Dr. Miller , who "cured " Patrick after the
murder of his family

 



2 - In ep 2x7 Rebecca (which belongs to the group of Red John ) delivers
a folder pro bosco , when she leaves the room , she is waiting for Ron . In the
next ep staff bosco was murdered .

 



3 - When Red John 's CBI invades the system and send message pro Jane ,
Van Pelt says, " only someone here inside the building can access our
system "

 



4 - This photo below is Ron 's hand , and has a ring that is is the same
ring that shows the hand of Red John when he is drinking tea at the home of the
blind , Rosalind

 



https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DzD8eczMZQs/Uop7DVCRG-I/AAAAAAAAB2I/aCufuF-27Bc/s375/a.png

5 - In the scene that disappears Krystina Frye , who is watching the
door is Ron

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

Jane has figured out the key to Red John's Identity.  Red John will reveal himself to Jane.  It doesnt matter who is Red John, so letting bgo is his way of pullling in Red John.  Without the game, life would seem to be uninteresting for both of them.  With that said, as of this episode, noone but Bruno Heller and maybe a couple writers may know the identity of Red John, but its possible noone does.  It may be an internal game to see who can wrap up the story the best.  So guessing who Red John is is almost moot, because the writers themselves don't know who.  Looking at reactions in the faces of the actors or how they act doesnt help either, because I'm sure some of these actors have the chops to be something totally different.  I had a dream tell me that it was Ray Haffner, so I'll go with that.  

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

I think after last night's episode we can fairly nicely discount several of the list of 7 as has been pointed out by many of you already.

Namely:
1) Reede Smith: This is the gimme, its not him
2) Haffner and Stiles: I'll get to McAllister further down

So who is left:
1) McAllister
2) Partridge: I really don't think its him, lots of great Partridge theories, but I just can't see how they miss him staging his death again
3) Bertram: Doesn't seem right for him to be Red John, especially given Red John set off the bomb. Post explosion he is off balance and on the run. Doesn't make much sense for him to have set off that bomb.

Now, to why I believe its McAllister (though admittedly I think as we've all pointed out, nobody really knows):
- It all comes down to the explosion scene, first you have to ask the question of why set off that explosion, if its to kill Jane then its inelegant and not like Red John. However if it was done to make himself disappear then it the move of a true showman. In essence it says that Red John is willing to walk into a meeting with Jane where he knows that Jane holds the upper hand and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. I like to think that this is what Red John is doing in this scenario.
- If we take this approach to the bombing scenario the next question we might have then is why I assume that McAllister and not Haffner/Stiles are Red John. I rewatched the final scene of 6.6 very closely. Let's make one assumption here, Red John carries the bomb in on his person, its a small, high grade device that is easily concealed. I think McAllister leaves the bomb under his hat once he gets up to be a part of the line-up. Now if you watch carefully, McAllister crosses to the point furthest away from his hat, but also right next to an open door. Now, if Jane is between McAllister and the bomb/Haffner/Stiles, how does McAllister's corpse end up being charred beyond recognition. It just doesn't make sense. If anything he should have been shielded most from the blast. Now I do realize that we still don't know the significant of the gunshot and what happened in the interim, so this does leave room for more happening than we have been privy to seeing.
- Now lastly, if McAllister is really alive then where did a charred body come from and the DNA. I think this is where one has to stretch the farthest, though I would argue not nearly as far as the BP theories. PJ and RJ are chess masters who anticipate each others moves in advance. RJ knows that this meeting that Jane is setting up with the suspects is his big reveal, hence why he constructs the bomb to make himself disappear. RJ also knows PJ psyche, he knows that the place to reveal his wife and daughter's killer will be at the scene of the crime. It makes sense for the grieving widower out for revenge to take his suspects back to the place where it all happened. We know that with his power in law enforcement and his ability to manipulate/hack that changing the sample DNA in the database would not be difficult. Neither potentially would be obtaining a body from a morgue and stashing it in advance behind/under the couch where he would be sitting. Admittedly, that is where the biggest stretch comes in to play, but I do think that its doable.

We won't truly know until next week, but I'm glad we are all enjoying the process of the final reveal.

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

and this years special teen choice
award goes to

bretty-must have faked-his-death-
-partridge.
for his role as the most misunderstood character in tv show history,
poor victim of zombie brainwashed teen theorists.

and if partridge won t be
the one who gets strangled by pj next episode, never mind - still some more
episodes to go. we already had jane kill a fake red john, do not worry.

go on observing 666 pidgeons
and stuff, everything s possible in tv wonderland. Though it might be a bit delusional
- one might think

 




Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

Did anyone else notice the teacup?  In a season finale a couple years ago, when a redjohn accomplice had Jane in the basement of a house, Lisbon rescued him before Jane was ready.  They showed the upstairs where there was a half used teacup sitting on the kitchen table and the patio door closing.  I think it was the same teacup that Jane was drining out of last night that the FBI guy knocked it out of his hands.  Jane said "hey, that's my favorite teacup."

My thinking is that Jane knows from the teacup who RJ is.  He now has DNA for the 5 "dead" people to run the DNA from the teacup against.

At this point, there are very few things I'm very positive about.  1 is that Reede Smith is NOT RJ.  Jane interviewed him and dismissed him and as Bruno Heller put it, if Jane says it's true, you can take it for face value.  2 RJ is the leader of Tiger, Tiger.  It's his organization to cover his tracks using dirty cops who are afraid of being discovered.  3.  The FBI was sent in to close down the CBI as a Tiger, Tiger order. 4.  There's more to Partridge's tattoo being cut off than his tattoo being cut off.  There was too much emphasis on it, and Jane deflected Lisbon's question, which tells me to pause there.  5.  Jane taking the gun from his house hasn't played yet.  6.  Jane knows who RJ is at this point and is going to the church to let things play themselves out. 

Beyond that McCallister is a guess.  There are at least 3 plot twists coming in the next episode and the first reveal is DEFINETLY NOT going to be RJ unless there is an end-story followed by back story.

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely
Follow us on