Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Ive really enjoyed reading many theories here during this season, and like a few others, I felt like I had to make a comment before next weeks episode.

I am sooooo looking forward to a great episode, and I am SURE, POSITIVE, DEFINITE, that Red John, is a person that no-one has suspected. I dont mean a random, unseen character, but rather a fantastic peice of writing from the team.

Surely someone from Lisbons team has to be dirty, Tyger Tyger, Red John accompice or otherwise.

I noticed the scene from the promo for 6x08 in the church, looks like it happens first in the episode, an extention of 6x07. Jane pulls out his gun from under a pew (the gun has gaffa tape on it like its been taped to something), Red John escapes - injured, and the chase is on, again!

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Okay, so go back and youtube the video of Robert Kirkland when he first shakes PJs hand. Watch how they "run" into each other, and see the tea cup Jane is carrying.... That is the same tea cup he broke when he "ran" into someone in the most recent episode, right when he seemed to have his epiphany and told Lisbon he was giving up.... Isn't it??? Just saying. I don't have that episode on dvr anymore so let me know if I'm wrong. If I'm not I think it supports my Bob Kirkland theory! I just have to resort to talking with you guys about this because nobody else in my life cares about how obsessed I am with this show. Lol.... Can't wait till Sunday!!!! Ill know who Red John is and I can sleep. :)

Here is the youtube link ... Watch for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/L5-H9QGov4Y?autoplay=1

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OK, first off if we were never given the list and promised by Heller that Red John is on this list, I believe the ideal Red John would have been Mashburn.  However, I do believe Heller and so the only person of the seven that I believe would make the perfect Red John is Haffner.  

1.  I don't believe Red John is in or runs the Tyger Tyger Blake organization. I could see Bret Stiles heading this up without being Red John though.  

2.  Haffner doesn't have a tattoo and I don't believe he killed the girl that made a play on Cho and pretended to have a tattoo.  How could he know for certain that the girl would live long enough to give a clue or that she'd give the tattoo as a clue and not something else.

3.  Reede is obviously not RJ.  Too heavy, not too bright, not in good condition, not charming, can't see seducing anyone.

4.  Partridge is dead.  Even if he was alive, he is too creepy and obvious to be RJ.  He is not charming or powerful or anything like Patrick as Lorelai alluded to.  Patrick hated Brett from the start.  RJ would not have that type of position, forensic tech, etc.

5.  McCallister seems smart and mature enough and he's not bad looking but he's all the way in Napa Cty and does not fit the profile.  He's also in the Blake Assoc which I do not believe RJ belongs to. I don't think RJ would have a position like Sheriff, too many people know him, he would always be busy, etc.

6.  Stiles was my ideal suspect from the beginning, but he seems too wise to be Red John.  There's a difference between being smart like RJ is and wise like Stiles is.  RJ is all about power and Stiles already has it, he doesn't need to kill to feel powerful and in control.  He's also too old and too well-known. His Visualize people are always around and Jane's psychiatrist wd have probably recognized him.  I think he could still be seductive but his age rules against him in terms of physical condition and the fact that he would have been much too old for his first kill in 1988 according to most serial killer profiles.

7.  Kirkland was introduced too late in the game in my opinion and is not charming or attractive.  He is also dead, which is a strike against him.  But seriously, does he even have the money or resources to be RJ?  I don't think so.

8.  As far as the phobias go, WHY if you were RJ would you actually give the psychiatrist any true info about you at all??  Wouldn't you just make up a phobia?  He's got to be an excellent liar, so I think he could handle it.  If Heller did make RJ actually divulge a real phobia, I think that's pretty stupid, IMHO.

9.  Bertram is not in good shape, does not have the money or charisma or real brains to be RJ.  I cannot see him seducing women.  He was lousy at poker and if you have a narcissistic personality you wouldn't accept help from anyone, esp Jane.  He had to call for help, RJ doesn't need to call on anyone for help.  He might be RJ's right hand man.  RJ wd not have taken the chance of being discovered by killing Jane in the hospital.  RJ wd have had a doctor or nurse kill him.

10.  Haffner is the right age and is good looking, charismatic, fine athletic condition.  He wears suits just like Jane.  I see the similarities.  Both Jane and Haffner are particular about the way they dress.  They both had difficult childhoods.  I cd see Lorelai saying they cd have been lifelong friends. I believe Stiles took Haffner under his wing as maybe his potential predecessor  a long time ago.  We know Stiles has helped other men financially who he thought had great potential.  I think Haffner has all of Visualize's money and contacts at his disposal.  I believe Stiles found out though a long time ago that Haffner was RJ.  Both men and women have been seduced into this cult.  Maybe Stiles blames himself because Haffner took all the blood rituals a little too far.  Haffner has just enough creepiness combined with intelligence and charisma to pull off being Red John.  He has surveillance experience and an in with the CBI.

Now all that being said, considering this is TV and not real life, that means anything goes.  It just depends on how clever and imaginative the writers are.  I've seen a lot of stupid choices for murderers in other books, TV shows, movies so NOTHING would surprise me, even if they made the lawyer for Visualize Red John!

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Every one in that room was wearing Sock. How come that feet was naked? :D

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Another two interview links!

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/mentalist-postmortem-red-johns-identity-cbis-future-janes-050000802.htm....

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/mentalist-season-6-preview-bruno-638413

Enjoy!

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Jane helped stiles fake his death.

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Ok why post 3 pages about the same old theory about partridge, haffner , and Bertram and the kirkland brothers over and over . The longer your post is the more your wrong because your fishing and justifying in your head as your write. Lets expand our minds. Lets not fall into the promo trap. Lets delve into topics that are possible but also outside the box . Don't be afraid. This show should be called the mentaltwist. Its about stuff you didn't see coming . Its about saying "how did he do that" its about pjs luxurious hair from heaven. I think the show is foreshadowing a twist with rigsby and van pelt. Bonnie and clyde. Ive posted a million clues about van pelt . Rigsby has caught my eye recently . Think about how much he knew about bertram last episode. Or the weird scene when he asks everyone but looking at choe only "so were ok with killing our boss" . He's an arson specialist . He was a big suspect of La roche when the cop was set aflame. He had a baby mamma out of nowhere. The episode started with him saying "red john used explosives to kill jane and the others. Lets talk about this. The outer limits . We beat all the other theories to death no pun intended . The people on the list were always a ruse . Lets go!

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