The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 1111)

There's a lot of deception surrounding Gale Bertram.

I'm going to try and put some guesses forward.

Bertram is in Tyger Tyger and working for Red John...

But he's also a player in Patrick's team.
0. If you don't know this. Robert Kirkland's first appearance is in season 2. After a meeting with Minelli, Minelli retires. Gale Bertram becomes the new boss. Why would Robert Kirkland put a guy in Tyger Tyger as CBI Director. Robert's got a plan! 1. Gale Bertram calls Robert Kirkland after Patrick Jane invites him to the meeting.2. Patrick somehow knows about Tyger Tyger and all its details when he's interviewing Smith. Patrick talked to Robert Kirkland too.3. Gale Bertram leaves a list of all names in Tyger Tyger in the Flash Drive.4. Only Kirkland has the authority to call in SWAT team from all Districts in California to help out Bertram. He's even planted a SWAT outfit in there *beforehand.* There's some elaborate plan going on.5. Patrick wakes up just as Bertram arrives... convenient, or they're both playing a trick. But for who? Lisbon?.. She's the only one there. Why did RJ keep her alive, is she bugged or something. Is Patrick helping Bertram keep up his Tyger Tyger appearance to Red John.5. Patrick calls a news conference to say Bertram is Red John. Is he playing the real Red John somewhere out there into believing he thinks Bertram is Red John?6. Patrick barely tries to stop Bertram escaping.7. Bertram kills a Bartender. During this scene, the frame rate slows down. Then you get a crap angle of Bertram killing him. Sure- it could be gory. Or its a perfect chance to deceive the audience. If you listen closely, you can hear Bertram punching ice after the initial unmistakeable smashing of the glass bottle on the guy's head. And he glances back at the Bartender, as he leaves... concerned or something? 8. Bertram is definitely being used deceptively. But the way in which he is playing suggests he is on Patrick's team. 9. Patrick agrees to meet Bertram, "Red John," in a park. Patrick asks for Teresa's gun. If Patrick and Bertram are really in on the same plan, Patrick can do a huge stunt at this point. Patrick can give Bertram his gun and say "I want you to finish what you started 10 years ago. Kill me." Or something really crazy.Then at this point, the real Red John would step out and reach out to Patrick. He would be there initially to watch Patrick kill Bertram. But he'd be so surprised when Patrick unarms himself he'd step out and reveal himself. Then Patrick chases and slays him.

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hey my friends. my choose is haffner. doesnt matter. ı have a question. what do you think for tyger tyger group?

red button: Red John in Tyger group
green button: Red John has a another group or no group.

Thanks!

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Due to the skin removed from Partridge hand (and just so you know i am not Partridge -RJ Fun) It can only means that tattoo wasnt there ... If tattoo was there no need for removal needed , becouse everybody knows about tattoo and his tyger tyger words... The only pissible reason why is skin removed is becouse there is NO tattoo on that body .... To trick anyone who look at it in to tinking ... I am not saying that Partridge is live , and body is replaced .... But i am just saying why skin is removed ....
Regards ....

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There's a lot of deception surrounding Gale Bertram. I'm going to try and put some guesses forward.Bertram is in Tyger Tyger and working for Red John... But he's also a player in Patrick's team...0. If you don't know this. Robert Kirkland's first appearance is in season 2. After a meeting with Minelli, Minelli retires. Gale Bertram becomes the new boss. Why would Robert Kirkland put a guy in Tyger Tyger as CBI Director. Robert's got a plan!1. Gale Bertram calls Robert Kirkland after Patrick Jane invites him to the meeting.2. Patrick somehow knows about Tyger Tyger and all its details when he's interviewing Smith. Patrick talked to Robert Kirkland too.3. Gale Bertram leaves a list of all names in Tyger Tyger in the Flash Drive.4. Only Kirkland has the authority to call in SWAT team from all Districts in California to help out Bertram. He's even planted a SWAT outfit in there *beforehand.* There's some elaborate plan going on.5. Patrick wakes up just as Bertram arrives... convenient, or they're both playing a trick. But for who? Lisbon?.. She's the only one there. Why did RJ keep her alive, is she bugged or something. Is Patrick helping Bertram keep up his Tyger Tyger appearance to Red John.5. Patrick calls a news conference to say Bertram is Red John. Is he playing the real Red John somewhere out there into believing he thinks Bertram is Red John?6. Patrick barely tries to stop Bertram escaping.7. Bertram kills a Bartender. During this scene, the frame rate slows down. Then you get a crap angle of Bertram killing him. Sure- it could be gory. Or its a perfect chance to deceive the audience. If you listen closely, you can hear Bertram punching ice after the initial unmistakeable smashing of the glass bottle on the guy's head. And he glances back at the Bartender, as he leaves... concerned or something? 8. Bertram is definitely being used deceptively. But the way in which he is playing suggests he is on Patrick's team. 9. Patrick agrees to meet Bertram, "Red John," in a park. Patrick asks for Teresa's gun. If Patrick and Bertram are really in on the same plan, Patrick can do a huge stunt at this point. Patrick can give Bertram his gun and say "I want you to finish what you started 10 years ago. Kill me." Or something really crazy.Then at this point, the real Red John would step out and reach out to Patrick. He would be there initially to watch Patrick kill Bertram. But he'd be so surprised when Patrick unarms himself he'd step out and reveal himself. Then Patrick chases and slays him.

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Theory #12988 • By RedSmiley7007

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So the big clue at the final scene in episode1 Season6 that will pay off big time in the next episode is this...
Brett Partridge did not die, that is the huge clue
Also He is Mar - maybe the mexican lady heard Martridge.
Just my mere 2 cents worth....

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Not a real theory, just my opinion about the whole McAllister affair after he was announced dead in the recent episode, even though he stood on the 'safe' side of the house in 6x06.

This fact resulted in a whole lot of theories that he is alive and he is Red John. I just can't understand that. Here's why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9tR57B9jWE

In the scene, we can see and hear the shot @2:23. After the shot, we still see the house for like 1 second before the scene changes. That means the explosion did not happen at the same moment as the shot.

The explosion happened at least 8 seconds later. Because in 3:10 there is Lisbon running towards Jane's house and we don't hear any shot. In 3:18 there house explodes. During those 8 seconds (probably more), ANYTHING could happen in the room. There could be a fight, someone could have tried to escape, and all positions could switch within very short time. So there's nothing special about the fact that McAllister is dead. You can tell that Stilles or Haffner are alive and the probability is the same.

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In this post I will explain several key events that have happened in episode 7 The Great Red Dragon (if you have not seen the episode yet stop reading and go watch it). These events will also hint at what I believe will happen in episode 8 Red John.

In the last episode several important facts have occured.
After the bombing of Jane's house 3 of the 5 remaining RJ suspects end up dead. When we learn that the tyger tyger tattoo has been removed from Patridge's arm Lisbon asks "What does it mean?" Jane answers "What do you think it means?" and walks away. The removal of the tyger tyger tattoo obviously means that the Tyger Tyger group is present in the morgue, and this also means that the dna results of the 3 RJ suspects that died in Jane's house are very likely false. Jane obviously realizes at this point that RJ is 1 of the 3 "deceased" suspects. He then begins setting his trap, he announced publicly that RJ is Bertram, fully aware of the fact that this is a lie. I mean Jane has always said that when he finally gets RJ he will kill him, so why would he announce to the public that Bertram is RJ and that he is "armed and dangerous"? Answers because he wants Bertram to get killed, he wants Bertram to die, making everyone believe that RJ is dead. As we know RJ is a showman, he wants people (especially Jane) to appreciate his work, RJ has a phobia of being unrecognized. So RJ needs to confront Jane in the next episode because he HAS to, he knows that it is a stupid thing to do and should walk away but he CAN'T. Hence why Jane sais in the end, "I'm not quitting, I'm letting go". There is nothing more that he can do and he knows it, RJ needs to make the next move. So he goes into the church and waits for the inevitable arrival of his nemesis, RJ.

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