My final theory: There is a red john serial killer and a red john's right hand killer (his highest disciple)RJ killed: the people in the barn, Jane's family, Lorelei, Eileen Turner, Panzer, Sandoval, Hicks, Plaskett, Acar and RenfrewRJ's right hand killed: Dr. Morning, Dylan and Ruth, Deutsch, Tinsley, Miranda Martins, Janet and Carter Peak
*Sophie Miller could go either way***Partridge could go either way, and I will at least entertain the possibility he is alive, though I think that is ridiculous**The differences are stark. RJ kills with a knife, leaves his signature smiley face and absolutely no one is left alive. The scenes are all gruesome. The other murders are not nearly as neat and clean. It is possible that the Peaks were murdered by a 3rd person and Rj subsequently had that person killed as part of the clean-up due to the dna evidence. Many of the other murders resulted in the person still being alive (Miranda, partridge, and Dylan) at least for a bit...they also had methods that were all over the map - guns, electrocution, guns, strangulation...

The person in the church is the right hand (or at least the current right hand). He sounds like the RJ that saved Jane bc he IS that person. RJ's right hand killed Dylan and Ruth and saved Patrick. This very well may be McCallister. Description fits and he is a voice actor. This will also be how the writers explain the difference in voice between RJ and that person. Basically I think the list of 7 was the list of people who could be RJ's right hand (a killer, and someone responsible for many of the murders attributed to RJ)...

I am not sure who the two individuals are, but I am 99% certain that this is how it will play out no matter who the two are...RJ clearly has an MO, it was something we were reminded of again and again with the smiley face. It was almost a taunt to Jane every single time he killed. He hired a skywriter for god's sake. It also explains the different descriptions by different people. I think VERY FEW, if ANY characters actually met the REAL RJ. I think most of them met the right hand. This also fits with the symbolism of blake's painting the great red dragon perfectly - RJ is the dragon. Tyger, Tyger is the first beast (all 7 suspects) to which the dragon gave his power, and the right hand is the second beast...to protect the first and the dragon.
People who met the REAL RJ - Stiles and Michael Kirkland, Renfrew, Rosalind, Orville, Dumar...possibly Haffner in his youth, and maybe sophie miller
People who met the right hand - Lorelei, Patrick (he shook hands with the right hand), Kristina Frye, Lisbon (abducted by the right hand), Rebecca

Hi All


Just wondering if you guys are going to continue watching the mentalist once red john revealed?


Green=Yes
Red=No

I am the only one on the site who does not know who Red John is.  However, I am going to point out some issues that need to be resolved, and any Red John Theory should address these. Some are from this season, some from past seasons.

How is Red John Connected to Visualize?
We know there is a connection.  Bertram doesn't seem to fit that.  If it is Bertram, his connection needs to be explained.

Why didn't RJ kill Lisbon?
Ok get ready for a crazy theory. Heller said there was a very specific reason that happened.  What if Partridge is RJ with an accomplice? Knowing that if he left Lisbon alive everyone would focus on her,  Partridge faked his own death and killed his accomplice. Talking point: When Patrick was speaking with RJ in this episode it showed RJ painting Lisbons face with the blood.  This means one of two things: RJ was not talking on the phone or the scene on tv was not shot in real time.  He also knew that eventually PJ would check the shoulder so for the Tyger mark so he cut it off.  I know, too loose and not definitive enough.

Why was Patrick so sure that RJ killed the PI personally?
If he is indeed in charge of the Blake Association then he could have just sent someone else to do it.  This would mean that one of the suspects without the tattoo would still be a suspect.

What happened right before the scene with the explosion, why was there a gunshot?
Who shot at who?   This will definitely be explained.  This leads to a follow up question, how did anyone have time to fake their own death with another body? Logistically, how did it work?  I think that Bertram is too obvious and the Mentalist likes to have twists.  This means that, assuming Reede is out, someone faked their death.

So the only person to me who can really tie this whole thing up is Partridge.  However, I don't see a reasonable way to explain his death, so he is out.

We know they are going to keep us guessing until the end, so I don't think it is Bertram.

Reede Smith is out.

So it has to be between Stiles and Haffner. However, a while back Stiles said "I know more than you or Red John could ever imagine." This seems like something RJ would not say, he is too proud.  So I am going with my gut all along, Haffner.

I probably missed some things that need t be explained, let me know in the comments

come to think about it guys,
the relevance of this site is just less than a week. definitely be missing posting and reading the awesome theories here!  :')