Poor Haffner. He looked so cute when he was taking off his shirt. Sigh i'm gonna miss him I didn't want him dead at all. The Mentalist is breaking my heart.
Poor Haffner. He looked so cute when he was taking off his shirt. Sigh i'm gonna miss him I didn't want him dead at all. The Mentalist is breaking my heart.
Its me or that figure going into the Church and the VOICE we hear in the promo are actually " SAUL TIGH"ts?
Anyway, RJ this, RJ that RJ What.
I want some opinions about if there REALLY is a MOLE in PJ inner circle and who is it.
We can discard Lisbon so Cho/VPelt/Rigsby.
If tehres a mole is it direct mole to RJ or Tiger Tiger ( unlikely if its one of the married couple i mean.....you would have notice the 3 points in bed.....or are they shy like hell and turn the light off?¿?¿?¿? )
Wanna hear some theories bout this.
Specially
1 Why?
2 How could this have happened under PJ nose and him not realizing?
what to believe after this episode? there are still so many questions that i don't think all will be answered in next final Red John episode. here's my take on current state:
- gale bertram is not red john. patrick wants RJ for himslef, he would never give his true identity to the press. it was just a distraction, part of a plan really.
- what's the story behind that gunshot before the explosion? why it wasn't explained? i think it's essential for closing in on RJ, and Patrick must remember it and know something, but why he didn't share it with Lisbon and others?
- sheriff must have survived the blast. if patrick, gale and reede survived, who all were at the same side of the room (same as sheriff), away from other 2, then sheriff would have survived it as well. So the bomb must have been planted somewhere around haffner and stiles. i think it was hidden inside sheriff's hat (there's no other way to bring the bomb really) and he left the hat on the couch. But, does that make him RJ?
- in promo for Red John episode we see a lot of scenes with a character that looks like sheriff, but would they really give red john that easily? in a promo? even though i like sheriff as a red john, i wasn't expecting they would reveal rj to us in a promo. it's too easy which makes me now kinda doubt it is him.
- this episode ended in church (i think there's a reason patrick went there) and from promo we see the next ep continues in church with a possibly sheriff (rj?) walking in and saying something like ''game over''. I don't believe we will know who is red john already in beginning of next episode, somewhere in middle yes, but not at the beginning. What if that really was sheriff in church and he was holding the phone which from real RJ was talking through?
- brett partridge. there's a huge mystery with him atm. why did RJ kill him? it is still not answered! if that was really his body at the morgue, why is his skin from shoulder removed and who did that? did he even have a tattoo? if he was in TT, why would RJ (who's also part of TT, according to Reede) killed him then? at that point no1 even knew about TT, so he wasn't danger to the organization or RJ and wasn't needed to be killed.
- when it was found out reede and gale are in TT collective, why only reede was ordered to get killed and not gale too? is gale their leader then? reede said it's called the blake association, because some1 is a big fan of blake and we saw back in season 3 gale recited some other blake's poem. it appears to me gale is leader and what is rj to them then, just a member or?
who can be rj then?
1. sheriff - i like him the most of all 7 suspects and i want it to be him. but, if he's rj and he is the one in promo we see, i'd be disappointed i found it out in a promo and not in a episode. THAT WOULD SUCK HARD. but since he's alive he's top option.
2. brett partridge - there are too many questions around him and his apparent death and so far we didn't get any answer to that. just because we didn't learn anything about it i gotta give him some chance, but would he need cbi credentials to enter cbi building to kill rebecca? hmm...but look at this, if he is RJ, and faked his death and would want his identification to remain secret, wouldn't you as well remove some1's skin from shoulder from your fake body so nobody would ever know were you in TT organization or not.
3. ??? who else? I believe hafffner and stiles are really dead dead, there had to be some casualties at that bomb explosion, no question about it. and bob kirkland's evil twin brother is biggest shit i read here, i give more chance to reede.
10x for reading
How about this: Haffner is Red John, and he is also Michael Kirkland.
-He altered his appearance at some point, which explains Kirkland's killing people who don't recognize him, which means they obviously didn't work directly with RJ and were of no use to Kirkland.
- He is not a member of the BA, just knew about them and used that knowledge to his own advantage.
- How could a bomb have been smuggled into Jane's house? It's not in a hat or a coat. It must have been done in advance by RJ, who knew the place Jane would most likely stage the "unveiling." He had been there before, when he killed Jane's family.
- Since the two remaining living suspects don't really match up to what we know about RJ, then one of the "dead" suspects must have faked his death. The best way to do it? By bringing Kirkland's bomb-laden body to the house ahead of time. That kills everybody involved, makes it LOOK like Haffner is dead because his DNA matches Kirklands, and allows for Haffner to disappear and start over.
- Now the world believes Bertram is RJ. Haffner/RJ goes to the church to gloat, or whatever the hell a psychopath does in that situation, and gets shot, flees, but is caught and strangled by Jane.
What if RJ cut Partridge's shoulder because it was a different tattoo? Like the vertical one you guys have been saying, or something like that, something that would draw attention. Thoughts anyone? Please comment
Not so much a theory on who Red John is, but more of a theory on the sequence of events on the next episode...
Patrick is approached by Bertram in the church and is about to kill him when he begs for Mercy. Right before Patrick shoots him, he admits that he is not RJ but he knows where he is. He tricks Patrick and takes off running explaining why Patrick shoots at him in the church.
Next, Patrick spots someone watching him at the cemetary and a foot chase takes place. It is McAllister and during this chase he crashes through the sliding glass door. Not sure if they catch him or he gets away.
Finally, Patrick gets a call from RJ wanting to meet him in the park. This is it, the moment of truth. Bertram is still on the run, but not RJ. The team pull their guns on the FBI agent to give Patrick the chance to face RJ alone in the park. I personally don't think McAllister or Bertram is RJ, but at this point everything is possible. I expect to see Partridge, but this scenerio leaves it open for any of the 7 suspects to step out and face Patrick in their final showdown.
My theory is very similar to those described on him. I believe that Patrick already knows that red john is Brett Partridge and who is cheating from the beginning, in the killing of the episode 6x01 Patrick understands that the policeman who tried to save the victim was a spy, he was there before everyone arrived. I just want to point out an event that I noticed and I do not see that written anywhere here. In 6x02 episode, after Lisbon was attacked by Red John, in the room where it is lying on the bed, at a certain moment a nurse entered the room and asked if that was the room of a certain Carmen Lee. Do you think it is relevant? is she a spy of Red John? Patrick was confused.