Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #13254 • By shoney70
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Really enjoy this site.  I am convinced at least 6 people are Red John having read some of these great explanations.  Some of these folks could probably write an even better show than Bruno!

So the question becomes, did they reveal enough on screen for us  to know who did it?  Despite some great thoughts, there is only one that we know enough about to say yes.

He has mentalist abilities.

He has murdered on screen, and walked with the complicity of the CBI, in particular Lisbon

He has set up others to be murdered, like SJK, if you believe he didn't do it himself

His supposed negligence has gotten several people killed.  Like the ball player this year with a cop being shot to boot.  Cbi protected him again.

He sent a fake list go a known lunatic and got some other people killed.

Bad things are happening to the people on his "real" list

He is the only actual suspect the fbi has seriuously considered...mentioned several times

He has been in a mental hospital and mentions many things indicative of mental illness (I haven't slept in 3 days for example)

His life is required study for the members of a bloodbthirsty cult...just mentioned this year

More than one person has mentioned his double life or wondered out loud if people realize who he really is

He shows no remorse for the deaths around him.  Ie lorelie had it coming for example

He had an actual breakdown on screen

His name is Pink Jayne, a symbolic opposition to his nemesis, red john, for crying out loud.  At a minimum, you'd have to believe that the red john name is a play off of Patrick's, but why?

Explains the mind reading trick as well.  Who else would know everything Patrick is thinking but Patrick

I think partridge MAY still be alive, but is either a victim of, or in collusion with, rj.  If he is still alive, how cheesy that Cho cuts open the plastic, but doesn't actually look at the face to make sure its him.  Pretty flimsy opening to have him still be alive. I am assuming they just didn't want to pay the actor one more time.

I think Lisbon saw rj, in the scene right before she finds partridge, where all you see is the top of the car.  She made a strange face, but was immediately distracted by noises from the house.  Coincidentally, Patrick was on the phone and driving at that time.  Patrick made sure she remembered nothing from that night, but she will flash back and we will see the driver.  Who pulled over, snuck in the back, and jumped Lisbon. 

And it will be Patrick!!  With a multiple personality disorder.  The only one who could have outwitted and manipulated Patrick all these years.

Anyone else and I will be disappointed.  Because no one else meets all the criteria as seen on screen.

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You're not going to believe this obviously, but within 10 Minutes of the start of the episode you'll know I wasn't bullshitting so to speak.

McAllister appears at the start. When you don't hear McAllister say "the game is over, I won," that's when you'll know Brett Partridge is redjohn. He won't appear until Patrick does something very out of character in his meeting with Bertram in the park. At the end you'll see Patrick janes biggest plan in the history of the Mentalist. All 7 suspects are alive! Including Robert Kirkland who plays a surprisingly large role in the plan. And 3 people who were in the meeting in Bertram's office turn out to be "good guys" When I say good I mean like Robert Kirkland, who murdered people to catch redjohn. The only people who weren't on Patricks team were stiles and haffner. Lisbon wasn't killed because redjohn had her bugged and much of Patricks plan was misinformation. tyger tyger is fully exposed via the flash drive from Bertram.

Once again, 10 minutes in you will know I wasn't making up shit.

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Ok the biggest clue that the list is a ploy is a quote by jane. Lisbon asks him why he faked the kirkland list and he says along the lines of " i don't want to endanger anyone who knows the list by letting people know the true one . I shouldn't have even told u". No way patrick would tell lisbon anyone on the list or that he even had a list ! He is up to something . Jane knew lisbon was bugged . You can tell he is talking to her like shes an answering machine ! You can tell by his face he wants to tell her more . What do yall thank?

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Believe me, I'm a RJ is Partridge guy and am eagerly anticipating the reveal. 

However it's sooo clear that there is a complete alternate storyline going on in The Great Red Dragon, that we aren't shown the full details of as yet. 

I just wanted to point out this very important scene where Patrick goes and kneels in church. Just after he kneels, the camera pans to a painting on the wall which shows a man with a beard holding a book with the Roman Numerals I through to VII (7). 

The man is holding up three fingers with his right hand - suggesting the number 3. 

This makes me wonder could this be Heller's way of indirectly referencing the seven suspects? And on the original list, the 3rd name read out by Lorelei is Haffner...

I wouldn't be thrilled at this outcome as I want it to be Partridge, but this seems like a clue that is hard to ignore.

Please see the comments section for the link to the photo from that scene. 

What say? 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4PRYQ19FmNqMkZHbzF3MUh6QWM/edit?usp=sharing

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I think that Brett Patridge was supposed to be Red John at the beginning of the series, but then the writers introduced a more interesting character in the second season: Bret Stiles.
Just think about it, he has been the most recurrent character of all the seven suspects and he has always been presented as a mysterious man with a great power to influence people (specially woman, like Van Pelt), he has shown a lot of sympathy for Jane and also, Jane has never been able to read him the way he reads other people.
I noticed that when Haffner gave Lisbon the information about Stiles whereabouts, he already knew that Jane was looking for him. So, basically he wanted to be found.
Also, I think that Haffner has been an errand boy for Bret Stiles, acting like Roy Tagliafierro and meeting with many of the people that have been identified as friends of Red John.
Many people don't believe in this because they cling to the clues related to the physical appearance and the age of Red John. I think that the first murder of Red John, and the birth of the happy face happened with Haffner as a disciple of Bret Stiles.
Finally, I want to add something else. Since the beginning of the series, Red John has not shown any rational criteria to select his victims, but if we think of Bret Stiles being him, we could also associate the murders with reasons related to religion and weird beliefs (like thinking that someone is inmoral and doesn't deserve to live). Also it would explain the extreme loyalty of Red John friends.
I just write a summary of some of theories posted here, adding some of my own ideas. Please let me know your opinions! 

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Theory #13250 • By NotRedJohnX
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I think that Brett Patridge was supposed to be Red John at the beginning of the series, but then the writers introduced a more interesting character in the second season: Bret Stiles.
Just think about it, he has been the most recurrent character of all the seven suspects and he has always been presented as a mysterious man with a great power to influence people (specially woman, like Van Pelt), he has shown a lot of sympathy for Jane and also, Jane has never been able to read him the way he reads other people.
I noticed that when Haffner gave Lisbon the information about Stiles whereabouts, he already knew that Jane was looking for him. So, basically he wanted to be found.
Also, I think that Haffner has been an errand boy for Bret Stiles, acting like Roy Tagliafierro and meeting with many of the people that have been identified as friends of Red John.
Many people don't believe in this because they cling to the clues related to the physical appearance and the age of Red John. I think that the first murder of Red John, and the birth of the happy face happened with Haffner as a disciple of Bret Stiles.
Finally, I want to add something else. Since the beginning of the series, Red John has not shown any rational criteria to select his victims, but if we think of Bret Stiles being him, we could also associate the murders with reasons related to religion and weird beliefs (like thinking that someone is inmoral and doesn't deserve to live). Also it would explain the extreme loyalty of Red John friends.
I just write a summary of some of theories posted here, adding some of my own ideas. Please let me know your opinions! 

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I rewatched the roof scene where the sheriff saves jane. Towards the end of the video a couple birds most likely pigeons because of how they sounded flew off. Mcallister spazed out and exclaimed "I hate those things", and ran down stairs or the church. Maybe a clue. Here's the link

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NXMfdy2-5Q8

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