Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Red John
is a game.

 



Background:  



1. Jane
has 2 sides : bright side & dark side.(Jane is always at the bright side in
the show)



2. Red
John is a group, more or less like a cult. (You can see the killing methods are different)



3. Jane
was in the group.And one of the pivotal members.(Brett Stiles is probably in the group too as he knows a lot
about Red John)

 

 



4. The
group employs people (e.g. lorelei martins, the fat dude with black glasses).
But there are only a few pivotal members who really know what is going on. They lie
to most of their members that RJ is a men. They didn’t tell them Jane was the culprit and the whole plan,too.


Theory:

 



1.     
The group admitted Jane because of his talents and they started killing
people. The killing game was fun at the beginning.


 



2.     
Later they found the game not challenging enough as the cops suck. They
don’t even have any progress in the case.


 



3.     
Jane decided to make the game more interesting. Jane has extraordinary
abilities as he is good at observing and mind tricks. He wanted to challenge
them. They then brainwashed Jane, wiped out his memory about the group
and all those killings. Jane then turned to bright side. They later started
killing again to catch Jane’s attention.


 



4.     
They knew that Jane has an arrogant and lazy character. So they killed
his family so as to give him a “motivation”. Jane then focused on his attention
on this case.


 



5.     
The group occasionally give hints to Jane and save him(e.g. s3e09). It
also explains why he didn’t get killed after insulting Red John(look at Panzar….).


Would be a fun plot if it is the case
Please comments :)

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Complete speculative guess. I only suggest it because I've not seen it mentioned, and I expect the reveal will be more intricate and fulfilling than how I lay this out but my general assumption is:

John Rubinstein (Judge Manchester)

1)Manchester - football team - nicknamed the red devils
2)' he is ma'.... 'he is manchester

various plot points from episode 14 in season 5 could be red herrings or legitimate clues.
 
3)The first card in the poker game is ACE of HEARTS.
4)Lisbon:" the action is on you judge"
5)Judge:"...like a childrens book....goodnight moon" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodnight_Moon


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   Just a few quotes. No proof. Hardly evidence. Perhaps it's nothing.
Perhaps it's clever writing. Perhaps it's a writer's subconscious leaking through his/her pen...  either way...interesting.

          "God you're a cold bastard." Lisbon to Jane.
           
    “We will not rest until we bring the perpetrator to justice.” -Minelli
      Jane has erratic sleep patterns. Often asleep on the couch during work hours. What's he up to at night?

        Lisbon-"Is Jane back?"
        Grace- "I haven't seen him."
        Lisbon-"Find him would you."
  How many episodes have we heard something like that?

       Lisbon-"That was nine years ago. Why attack the CBI today?"
       Jane-"Yea, It's puzzling.
Carter and Janet Peak. Nine years ago. *under breath to self* Carter, Janet Peak, nine- *loud again* Nine years ago, I'm a lot less experienced. Something went wrong with Carter and Janet Peak. A mistake. Now he fixed it but somehow now it's come undone. I'm Red John, why do i kill Morning and Hicks and attack Bosco's team? 
Bosco wanted the medical reports. What did he know..

               "You're not going to catch anyone with a background check. They plan too carefully for that."  -Patrick Jane

                Minelli- "I want to foster better inter-unit relations. Let's stop stumbling into each other, and try working together... You have concerns."
                Bosco- "I do. *points to Jane* This man... I - I don't even know what he is. He's an accident waiting to happen."

                And we all know what happened to Bosco..=)

              Lisbon- "There are real boundaries in life. These are real prison walls."
              Jane- "Only in your mind Lisbon. Only in your mind."

              Bosco-" It was a big mistake bringing in a whack job like him...
              Lisbon-"...Jane was bound to self destruct eventually. We all knew that."

              Victoria Abner-“Your aura is fascinating, Mr. Jane. So
many hues.”    
            Jane is a color...it's a hue of red.

              Jane-"A lie gets heavy fast..doesn't it."

              Jane- "You know you're a very good liar. Most people subconsciously signal dishonesty. But you, there's nothing. No inner conflict. Usually that's the mark of what shrinks like to call a sociopath."

              Bosco to Lisbon--“You know, for a cop, you made a very convincing lunatic. Jane must be proud.”
             Because Jane's the opposite..???

              Dr. Carmen & Lisbon-“Can memory loss be a result of trauma? Sure. Your mind shields you from the awful thing you did or even what someone else did.”

TAKE YOUR TIME READING THIS EXCHANGE
               Bosco: "You're a party entertainer, a clown. Fresh leads? I wouldn't tell you where the bathroom is if your ass was on fire. Do we understand each other?"
                    Jane- "I understand you, it may take you time to understand me."
                 Bosco-"You're filled with equal parts self-loathing and self-love. You're addicted to control, you're terrified of confinement."          
                 Jane-"Who's my favourite beatle? Huh?"
                 Bosc-"Your wife wanted you to quit the psychic trade, she begged you to stop, but you were making too much money and you having too much fun. You can still hear her pleading with you. How am I doing?"
                 Jane- "You read the interviews in my case file. You can read, very impressive."
                 Bosco- 'Well, Patrick. *putting his hand on Jane's shoulder* I'm sorry to be so blunt with you."
                 Jane- "Really? *putting his hand on Bosco's shoulder*
                
                  Jane-"
“A true artist watching a cheap imitator until fear made you a believer. It can do that to you. The heart wants what the heart wants. Makes us do bad things, it won’t be denied.”
 
                  Jane-"Easy to fool yourself that the people you love are honest."   ----ah haha  love it...
  
                  Jane-"The devil is in the details isn't he."

JANE-"I HAD A DAUGHTER ONCE. SHE DIED. MURDERED. IT WAS MY FAULT."

                   "Well, anything can happen on TV."---Patrick Jane

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I speak Spanish and Translated with google if you do not understand sorry
because few people think that Red John is cho for me is the main suspect alone.
look aside his description
Red John is a man. This can be determined from reports of Rosalind Harker (Alicia Witt), a blind woman and former lover of Red John who first appears in the episode "Red John's Footsteps". Harker's description, if it is to be Believed, Further That states he is "just under six feet tall, with short, straight hair, not muscular but not soft with strong hands." Harker's testimony may be Considered somewhat suspect, However, since she Seems to feel he is not a threat, nor does she seem to hold any antagonism Toward him, even after the CBI has insisted Red John is a serial killer.He enjoys poetry by William Blake (Red John quoted one line from the poem The Tyger to Jane at the end of season 2, this poem was again quoted by Gale Bertram, CBI director, in a press conference, the poem was Also Recognized by Agent LaRoche and Agent Kimball Cho in the episode in Which Hightower was framed).
good for me is what we will see from just
regards

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It's Ray Haffner. It makes complete sense. I mean, think about it. Red John killed somebody at a farm operated by visualise. That was probably his first murder, and he was probably 20. It's been 30 years since that roughly, and Patrick Jane has shaken hands with Haffner. Haffner is a member of visualize, and makes complete sense. He denied the topic when Lisbon brought it up. He pretends to be awkward, but we all know he really isn't. 
There is little doubt in my mind he is Red John.

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Okay, so I read a couple of theories about who RJ is and had just watched the clip as Patrick Jane is discussion RJ, which lead to his wife and daughters death. He tells us here that RJ is in his mid thirties. If you then take the example of the boy who killed two ppl in a barn in 1988, what was also said is that he was a boy. Probably around 12 or something, seems kinda strange that a 6 year old could kill 2 ppl. This also adds up pretty good with Patricks conclussion that he is about 30-35, at that time. If we then say that the boy was born in 1976 if you do the math, and then you will come to the conclussion that he is 36, maybe a bit older deppending on his age when he killed the first two. By this i want to say that RJ wouldn't have killed PJ's family if what he said hadn't been remotly true. Since you really dont care what ppl say if it's a lie. So that would pretty mutch rule out any one under the age of 30 and over the age of 40. Brett stiles would in this case then be ruled out and possibly many other suspects. I'm sorry that this is not an accusation against Bret, but i didn't know where else to post it.

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Theory #1415 • By nanana19
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First of all you people thinking that it is patrick jane, that is just ridiculous the show would make no sense if it was him and why would he kill his own wifr and daughter? I think it is Bret Stiles as in the episode called the red barn one of the three victims belonged to visualize and on the side of the barn there is red johns signature. Also these three people were killed roughly 25 years ago way before red john was even on the scene. The three victims are traced back to being members of Visualize and thr leader of visualize is the one and only BRET STILES.

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