The latest theories about Red John's identity (page 1132)

I am waiting for the response to these questions:

1. Red John is assumed to have always been 1 step ahead of PJ's team, always knowing what they will do next etc. Why on earth did he hire a private investigator to bug Cho in season 6, after 5 years of being 1 step ahead?
2. How was he 1 step ahead the previous years?
3. Why did PJ conclude that Red John had paid the PI to bug the team?
4. Why did RJ himself go to kill the PI and didnt send someone else? Why would RJ go kill the woman by himself making so many mistakes, revealing his tattoo, not checking if shes dead etc, why not send someone else from TT?
5. What was he wearing that made the 3 dot tattoo visible?
6. Why didn't he check her pulse to see if she's dead and let her semi dead? What if medics came there and saved her, wouldnt she be able to identify the man who paid her?
7. Why on earth does the Blake team have a sign (3 dot tatoo) visible? This is total nonsense. A criminal organization with a visible sign??? So that if 2-3 people of this organization are caught, the interrogators see the tatoo and everyone is found out through simple observation. This is the dumbest criminal organization in the history of mankind.
8. Why did Red John also have the tattoo? So that if some of them are caught, he is also put to question? The only thing that made a suspect out of sheriff and smith and Gale is that, upon interogation by PJ, they all had the tattoo. If RJ didnt have the tattoo, PJ would be clueless as to who RJ is. IT seems like total nonsense that RJ would mark himself with a mark of a criminal organization.
9. Why did RJ place a bomb in that house and risk his own life, when clearly PJ hadnt figured out who RJ is? If he had time and resources to place bomb in that house, why not have a sniper kill PJ through the window instead of risking his life with a bomb?
10. Why did't PJ bring Rosalinda Harker to the interrogation so that she identifies RJ?
11. How did RJ form the list before PJ?

I am waiting for serious answers to these questions in the next episode, not just a senseless hunt of RJ and that's it. Especially why on earth they would have a tattoo and RJ specifically would have a tattoo? it seems so so dumb. There are maybe more questions that I didn't have time to think, but if these are not explicitly answered, they all seem serious plot holes and render the seried illogical at best.

I am glad to hear anwers from you :)
I dont have big expectations for logic to prevail in this show.

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There are only say...2-3 suspects I feel.
Kirkland - Dead
Stiles - Dying/Dead (and he's too old to fit any description anyway)
Bertram? - Way too obvious if it was him. It wouldn't fit the Red John legacy anyway. Besides, Red John isn't even supposed to have been revealed until next episode.
Reede Smith - He's in jail. I agree with Jane when he said Red John wouldn't open up like that. If he was RJ, he was almost killed by Tiger Tiger several times, and RJ wouldn't let that happen.

Partrige? In the beginning I thought he was 100% dead. Then I read some theories and thought maybe... But no. Cho saw the body, Heller said he was dead, and it just seems all too unlikely. It would be a fantastic plot twist, but eh. Very doubtful.

Leaving us with 2:
McAllister
Haffner

I don't think there is any other way it is not either one of these two. I choose Haffner, but its up to you guys :)

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the people who think that red john can't be brett partridge have obviously never watch the mentalist. or they are band wagoners and are only watching the last few episodes.

if you have ever watched the show you know that twists and turns are to be expected and red john is not going to be bertram, smith, or mcallister. that would be lame and heller has already said that its going to be a surprisingly evident ending.

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I know, I know. Another Partridge theory. But I wouldn't waste my time writing this unless I felt I had something new to posit.

Bertrum: Unlikely for a score of reasons. While under the threat of torture a few episodes back, Jane refused to divulge his list of suspects to Kirkland. In what type of fevered dream could someone think Jane would divulge the identity of Red John to the media (the world), as was implied last week? Make no mistake: Jane wants Red John for himself. So it makes sense that he would give the media and the police a name he was certain was not that of Red John. And that's not to mention Bertrum's attempt on Jane's life in the hospital, and the way he sloppily murdered the bartender. Bertrum is a bad man -- a killer. But not our highly skilled serial killer.

Kirkland: Kirkland seems unlikely, as well, and so does his twin brother, or his clone, or any other device one could use to make this square peg fit a round hole. Unlike some of the characters I will touch on shortly, Kirkland's death is indisputable (we saw him shot repeatedly in the back). I admit, we can't be sure which Kirkland it was that died. We have to assume it was Bob, but perhaps Michael had been posing as Bob. We can't be certain. But one Kirkland is dead, and it seems bringing the other into the picture would be tedious and contrived. I don't think the writers will introduce twin Michael (Who just happens to walk, talk, dress, and look precisely like Bob!) as our man. That would be too soap opera-esque. It's difficult to pinpoint a way in which the writers could tie either of the Kirklands back into the story; we don't have enough information.

Smith: Nope. Just nope.

Stiles and Hafner: This is where I'm going to do a bit of guess work. Of the three presumed dead after the explosion at Jane's house, I trust McAllister was the only one to survive. It's been covered here ad nauseam, but it doesn't make sense for McAllister to be dead considering he was pulled aside with Bertrum and Smith, who came away unharmed. McAllister is alive and the promo seems to corroborate that. Now, it is my expectation that Stiles and Hafner are dead -- dead dead. We can assume Jane was standing in the middle of the room with his gun as the bomb went off (Stiles and Hafner were still seated and the three with the "Tyger Tyger" tattoo were positioned along the opposite wall. Jane's injuries were significant enough to land him in the hospital, but not for long. I doubt Stiles and Hafner were so fortunate. Most theories predict the bomb was placed by one of the suspects, meaning Stiles and Hafner would have taken the brunt of the explosion. If Jane was hospitalized with his injuries, Stiles and Hafner would likely have required care as well. I suspect the two are dead, or somehow managed to leave undetected with serious injuries -- injuries that would not have healed for Sunday's reveal. A bit of guess work there. Maybe I'm a bit slanted -- the thought of Jane strangling a 70-year-old and possibly injured Malcolm McDowell makes me cringe.

McAllister and Partridge: I group these two together because I believe they are both living (despite being presumed dead), and are the only realistic and redeeming suspects remaining from Jane's list. It can be assumed McAllister is alive through the promos and his location at the time of the explosion, but many are still skeptical as to Partridge's status. To those skeptics I ask this: Have I made any massive leaps or reached any unwarranted conclusions to this point? I might have taken a few wrong steps, but I think most of what I have theorized is logically based (you may disagree and please comment if you do). If what I have written holds true, then Partridge is almost certainly alive. This theory hasn't required a ton of guess work or time to conceive (it's taken me longer to type out than it did to think through), but I feel confident in dismissing the five suspects I mentioned above. If Red John is not one of those five, but still one of Jane's original seven, then he is either McAllister or Partridge. If Partridge is truly dead, I'm confident McAllister is Red John. But I give the writers a little more credit than that. I don't think they would enter Sunday with one realistic suspect (at least in my mind). That is why Partridge (aside from Cho not verifying his face, and Jane acting suspiciously after seeing the photo of his shoulder) must be alive. He has to be. Otherwise, I can say with a considerable level of confidence that McAllister is Red John, despite having only seen the 20-second promo.

If I'm correct and it comes down to McAllister and Partridge, I think the Fangoria-reading ghoul is our guy. McAllister is alive, but what are the chances CBS would spill the beans by picturing Red John in the promo? Please. McAllister will be in the episode in some capacity. The writers may even try to convince us (briefly) that he is Red John, though I doubt he is. Partridge fits the mold and a number of posts describe why in great detail. But whether Red John is Partridge or someone else, I have a strange feeling Jane has known for a while, and that he's been working through a plan that, once revealed, will fill a lot of plot holes from this season and throughout the series.

I'm not certain, but as a wise man once said, "I figured the odds were 70-30 I was right. I wouldn't call that terrible. A betting man would call that risky, but certainly not terrible."

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I think that without a doubt, RJ is Partridge.

Some may think that the idea of making the quirky, mostly creepy, crime scene investigator RJ is too expected. Well, are we not meant to feel in the moment when it comes to the show? How often do we hear of the head of a law enforcement agency is a serial killer? (the head of a ring of dirty cops? We most certainly hear that all of the time and Bertram is certainly the head of The Blake Association.) But how many times do we hear about the crime scene investigator, documentarian, etc being a sick, twisted, cynical, sociopath who enjoys being able to come back and marvel at their work in the public eye. After all, it is one thing for RJ to revisit the scene alone, but it is another when he gets to come back, document, photograph, and flat out glorify the "genius tactics" in the face of the law, quite literally!! Partridge as RJ means he photographs his work to forever memorialize it in his own ideal of his genius ways. So yeah, maybe it's cliche in the sense of television but it is by far the most plausible in real life. I find that more compelling than going out of the way to make some absurd story.

To continue with Bertram for a second, there is just NO WAY! I know people are saying, "Well why would he kill the bartender? Would The Blake Association fake that?" First and foremost, Bertram IS the head of The Blake Association. Do you all easily forget him quoting William Blake for whom the Association is named after? Also, this is why Bertram is so reckless at this point. He knows there is no way out of this situation, he is caught, RJ or not, they know he is a member. Killing the bartender was an easy out considering the bartender would mostly likely call the police and they would at least have a last sighting. The bartender was an expendable nobody. Also, he is still protected by the association whereas Smith is disposable to them...because he is just a low ranking member doing all he can to kiss some ass and work his way up, hence his involvement with Bertram and McAllister.

Now, McAllister is a strong probable for RJ. I could see him as a possible follower or admirer of RJ. I know there are many things that allude to him as RJ BUT I just do not see him fitting the role. He is not afraid of heights, he does not have short straight hair (I know some theories say, well Sophie is right but he may have been there a long time ago. Uhh...no!! Patrick told Rigsby and Van Pelt to look for a new client within the past 5 to 6 months. McAllister has always been rather balding). Also, if RJ was afraid of heights, he would not just rake his confidence to save Patrick on the roof of the church. I am only remotely afraid of heights but I would never do that. I can see McAllister as being a follower to the point that he becomes a decoy to confuse Patrick.

Partridge is perfect for RJ. How many times do we see false plots on The Mentalist where someone is not really dead (Does Hightower ring a bell?), and from there, let's discuss Partridge's death. One, he was the first suspect killed, since I also like the Lisbon is bugged theories, RJ knows he is being traced, so he needs to take himself out of the picture, so he does. He fakes his death. As we know, RJ is protected by The Blake Association so since Patrick was so concerned with Lisbon since she was attacked by RJ at that scene, he ignored examining the body. (Also Lisbon finds Partridge, he falls to the floor, Lisbon turns the other way to check out a room and is hit from behind where Partridge was...too convenient). So Partridge is off the map and free to move as he pleases. Of course Cho checks the body (only the arm NOT the head but I also believe he is working in private with Jane). Being a member of The Blake Association, RJ has all sorts of ins and can falsify any reports and documents. Also, lets go back a bit, when Lorelei was killed, Partridge specifically said it was an inside job. Why say that when it was still a RJ killing? I think he was caught in the moment and made a slip up. Also, not just be a professional and stick to the "it is another RJ killing" HOW MANY TIMES in the past has RJ killed his followers in the same regard? Did Partridge say that was an inside job then? NO! It was this time because it was personal. RJ felt betrayed by Lorelei's infatuation with Patrick. This made RJ feel that Patrick was better than him, it made him feel betrayed, and inferior (just as Patrick ALWAYS made Partridge feel at the crime scenes) and RJ just could not take that. He is egotistical, complicated and most importantly...consistent. Also, Partridge once claimed, "Oh I'm so excited to finally see a RJ crime scene!" Okay, if that does not SCREAM sociopath in of itself...he also says how many RJ scenes he has been to. Another slip up?

Yet ANOTHER Partridge slip up. When he's describing a RJ scene and he's explaining the smiley, he talks about it being clockwise, done in blood, with a rubber kitchen glove. Uhh...why would RJ ever leave or allude to his materials, let alone leave behind evidence that could possibly contain DNA? Partridge's annoyance at Patrick for ridiculing a new RJ style of of surprise. First seeing the body, THEN the smiley. RJ is an artist, indeed (as Patrick said) so RJ would want to alter his art, take new approaches. Partridge's excitement for encountering Jane at a crime scene, his mocking of Patrick's "psychic powers" (the same reason why RJ killed Patrick's wife and daughter), his agreeance and awe in Patrick's way of thinking while playing coy, his annoyance when Jane so quickly dismisses the possibility of an RJ crime scene. How much Partridge enjoys the ways of other killers, his almost euphoric state of admiration for the killing methods of others. Partridge's distaste of the ideal of murder as opposed to "the art of killing". The fact that Lorelei said Patrick and RJ should have been lifelong friends, the quirky way Patrick and Partridge play off of one another. How Partridge entices Patrick to debate on whether a crime scene is RJ or not, how he alludes and claims "Oh, this is not RJ" just to get Patrick to react, a favorite ability of RJ's. How Partridge satirically calls Patrick the RJ expert. Coy and playful, just like RJ.

Oh, and also? RJ's voice? CLEARLY it is the same pitch, tone, and quality as Partridge. The sly, ghoulish, well articulated crime scene investigator/Red John.

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Theory #13301 • By Reckless_Lust

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ok there are alot of amazing theorys on this site and i am here to share mine cause all i do is read lol here goes.

mcallister- no. simple. he is just too weak; you can see it in his eyes and that he doesnt fit the physical features. he works for red john tho.

stiles- no. he is old and i remember jane saying "you? you wouldnt hurt a fly."

bertram- maybe. as i read its obvious it isnt him and he doesnt fit the physical features as well, but then again, bruno says fans will be disappointed on who is red john and for some reason bertram sticks out to me when bruno says that because maybe, just maybe, he wore a wig and faked all that stuff in front of that blind lady just so she couldnt expose him.

kirkland- no. we all saw he get shot 6 times from the back, i doubt bruno would bring him back.

haffner- no. i dont think he is dead and i doubt he is red john or he works for red john. i dont think he has anything to do with red john. looks pretty innocent to me. but he has the hair of red johns describness and maybe the blind lady didnt know what color hair he had? how did she even know it was black hair?

reede- no. he is going to die in episode 7. hes too weak to be red john.

partiridge- maybe. he is my top suspect because when lisbon went and saw him and he fell, then he died, she got up and then looked at the opened door (then again i wonder who opened that door) there was nothing behind her so whoever was behind her couldnt have pulled her from the back; there was nothing. im guessing partridge pulled her and had his way with her.

lisbon- but then again, who remembers walter mashburn? IMDB put walter mashburn as red john and that got me thinking so much, lisbon slept with walter and maybe just maybe he is red john and he didnt want to hurt her? and maybe, she knows what happened that night. maybe lisbon is a part of tyger tyger.

i have some other things id like to share as well.

maybe red john isnt just one man? maybe he is a huge group of men who help him kill all the people he kills?

or maybe jane is in a mental institute and his co workers are his room mates and he became so obsessed with who killed his wife and daughter that he went crazy and landed in a mental institute. crazy hahaahah.

or maybe one of janes co workers; cho, wayne, grace or lisbon could be working for red john? who knows.

all in all i cant wait till i find out who red john is. 4 more days :D

and patrick jane is one sexy motherfucker.

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