Well guys, just posting to announce that, after comparing Brett Partridge Voice with Red John's in Spanish, they sound completely different. Assuming they would have use the same actor, Patridge cant be Red John. I thought it could be interesting to share this info.
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Hell, I started by being sure RJ would be Sheriff or Haffner some weeks ago, then after episode 6 I went to Bertram, and was pretty sure it would be him (he would have been my favorite), now I'm back to Sheriff and Haffner, lol.
Damn, I'm trapped in a circle..
Resuming...
Haffner:
I don't see how could Haffner have survived the explosion, unless they moved and they have to explain it to us very well.. He also doesn't have the tattoo and that's even more important. It's obvious Bertram was one of the tyger tyger leaders, what other reason could be for him not being killed by tyger tyger? And he got the tattoo, so why would the other possible leader not have the tattoo? And RJ has to be at least a tyger tyger member, how could he get all those favors from them if not?
Also, Haffner appeared late in the show..and he just seems silly and mentally very weak (I'm not even talking about intellect).But he is not an obvious suspect now, he was at the farm, he is an expert in tracking people, he is also not a public figure (so could kill unnoticed), he fits Rosalind description more or less (except the pine smell, and I think he is a little too tall), he is middle aged, he is afraid of spiders (he was ridiculous at that scene), he was an agent so probably knows how to shoot people well, and I can see him seducing some women, like Rosalind and Lorelei.
Also, Heller said RJ likes the cold. And there is "Haffner Creek" (a crag with several pillars of pure ice).
Sheriff:
Fits Rosalind description completly (except the bald thing, but he probably wasn't bald then, we can even see it in his photo in Jane's list), he is not a public figure, so he could kill all those people without being afraid of being recognized.
He is afraid of pigeons, and maybe that is also the clue at the end of s6e1 that Heller pointed out (there were pigeons at the house Partridge was killed).
He moves smoothly, and he is small, so he could hide behind the door in s6e1, and being a hunter he is probably good at shooting people (and we know RJ is good at it, the way he shot those guys in "Red Sky in the Morning"! ).
Also he has a strange voice, too rough, and PJ did said somewhere that RJ would have a speech impairment..
He was also a litle too insistent with Van Pelt in that episode (when he offered her a ride)...
But, to me, Sheriff is the most obvious of all suspects, and they showed us his image in the promo (I know, CBS may have screwed it..), also, he looks too old for Rosalind and Lorelei (is he even middle aged??), least narcissistic of all and has a bad posture (we can even see it at s06e06), and being RJ so proud of who he is and his work, I just think he shouldn't be saying to PJ he wasn't RJ like that (yes, I know, he did a litle smile, but still...).
He doesn't seem to have any kind of vanity (I actually kinda of like him).
He is the only one of the suspects I would trust, but maybe that's another clue..
Also, don't see how "RJ likes the cold" does fit Sheriff...was Heller playing us??
Bertram using Thomas identity doesn't mean nothing to me, I don't believe they would go and give us such a clue to RJ identity..
Being the Sheriff RJ or not, I do believe the Sheriff must be the other tyger tyger leader, and that's why Bertram used his name, to incriminate the other leader in case the store-room was found.
What do you think?
giga
I think the voice saying "the game's over and I won" doesn't belong to the church scene but to another scene. It could be misleading.
This is a theory, I realize there are many other possibilities. and the the writers will likely just change things to keep us hanging instead of developing a quality story.
RJ
has a strong connection to Visualize. How many people play/mess/draw
with blood like Stiles did in his ceremony. RJ obviously, makes his
smiley face with blood. But I think when applied to the face is some
sort of forgiveness or mercy or pardon, like RJ did to Lisbon and like
Stiles did in the ceremony. Stiles has some connection to RJ per his
previous conversations. He is not RJ because ,,, well its just to
obvious. But he has an interest in RJ's well being. It makes Stiles
sad that RJ has become tied up in tiger tiger because he knows its not
consistent with Visualizes morals or RJ's future in visualize. So he
helped RJ fake his death. The reason Lisbon got to see Partridge dead
is so she could personally verify his death. So partridge is laying on
the ground. Stiles grabs Lisbon, does his blood on face thing. Swaps
Partridges alive body, probably with a very deformed face substitute dead body.
And cuts off a patch of skin on the arm. because... RJ told PJ tiger
tiger earlier... so they assume PJ knows about the blake assocation by
now and either doesn't want Partridge linked to tiger tiger or doesn't
want to expose tiger tiger. Now Partridge is assumed dead and can be
free from tiger tiger and free to lead Visualize because Stiles is
dying. Now that Stiles is dead, Partridge wants to talk to PJ because
he lost a major helper and with losing his purpose for being, due to
betram's false accusation stealing his thunder, RJ is not thinking
logically and reaches out to PJ.
I haven't seen anything discussing the 3 dots. It seems like one of the dots appears bigger. As with any of the pertinent clues, it would seem the dots have a specific meaning and thus, if one is bigger than the others that would also have signifcant meaning?
Do you guys remember when at season 4 finale, the guy who obviously knew red john and was shot by Jane said to him "Let go, let go, are you going to live like this all your life? trying to catch red john?"
well, i am pretty sure that the fact that he said that, means something, red john is ready to be revealed.
I am not saying that she is Teresa, but she was the one seeing him say "im tired, im done with this, this is it,"
Without the spoilers of the episode 8 promo, screenshots and other things. Forget all that.
Could we identify Red John 100% by only watching the episodes like a regular Mentalist fan?
- We only know for sure that Gale Bertram and Reede Smith of the list are still alive.
- Patrick Jane still thinks Red John isn't caught, so Red John isn't likely dead.
- Someone from the FBI broke Patrick's favourite cup, that bastard. It was the most emotional moment. Dennis Abbot got the remaining plate.
- Patrick shook hands with Red John.
- They found an encrypted list. Probably a list corrupt persons just like HR of the Person of Interest.
- Brett Partridge told to Lisbon TygerTyger
- Reede Smith helped Red John to get FBI classified information
- Patrick walks to a church but why?
- Lorelei Martins told Patrick "I only wonder why the two of you didn't become life-long friends the moment you shook hands."
I wonder.. Lorelei's sister Miranda got killed by Red John. Miranda had a cabin in the woods.
Bob Kirkland's brother Michael allegedly got killed by Red John. Michael had a cabin in the woods.
I also wonder this Red John face on Lisbon, why is it different?
Normal Red John face:
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091231224606/thementalist/images/c/cb/Red_John_Smiley.png
Red John face on Teresa Lisbon: http://tinyurl.com/kzch2r4
Why are the eyes vertically drawn on Teresa?