Although Ellis Mars seems like a good candidate clue wise, I don't think it's him. He just seems too neurotic. His behavior is beneath RJ.
Although Ellis Mars seems like a good candidate clue wise, I don't think it's him. He just seems too neurotic. His behavior is beneath RJ.
I don't think it's Brett because the link between the way he speaks and the way Red John speaks is too obviously BUT mainly because we've just found out that RJ was at the Visualize farms so he be roughly the same age as Ray Haffner, who: Lisbon thinks was in the farm, he is part of visualise and he didn't deny being in the farm. Brett is far too young.
In my opinion after much thought and observation I accuse Rosalind Harker, why? because truly I do not believe that she is blind, there is no proof. Let's see... Red john likes to play games right? and what better way to really throw off Jane then set up a "blind woman" to pose as the romantic interest of PJ's nemesis, after all he's charming to the women and can make them do pretty much anything. I believe the real RJ could easily have manipulated (maybe even brainwashed or hypnotised) this woman into thinking she is blind because he is clever and cunning and by doing this he could trick Patrick Jane into thinking she actually was visually impaired, thus appealing to his better nature (meaning RJ knows Jane is extra soft spoken and careful when interviewing and questioning people with impairments and disabilities. Truly I believe that Rosalind Harker is the rouse that RJ planned in order to completley throw Jane off his trail.
Also I have another theory as to who Red John could be. I don't want to believe it, but our culprit could be right in front of our eyes, think about it who is always with Jane pretty much 24/7 and it's here job to keep him in line, yes I know you might hate me for sudjesting it although you could argue about her motive. Also I just had had a sudden thought that occured to me, I don't want to think it because I've always liked her, though wouldn't it be the ultimate throw off for RJ's identity to be none other than our very own "badass, angry little,pocket rocket, cute as a button Agent Teresa Lisbon? this would explain setting Jane up to play with his emotions, I don't doubt that Lisbon is romantically interested in Patrick Jane, although could you imagine if it was all a plan and Jane fell in love with her only to find out she is Red John and that is why he couldn't "find" 'him" because she was right in front of his eyes. Also there is valid point in this next part, what better way to keep an eye on Jane than by working with him. Also if you think about it from a physchological pov. than wouldn't it be the ultimate rouse to have her as RJ, because no one would suspect the innocent Catholic cross bearing Teresa Lisbon right? also if you think about it from a theological perspective (in catechism) in the Bible it is said that Satan (the devil) likes to play and trick people into thinking he is what he's not, what better way to gain people's trust? I'm doubting this is the case, but wouldn't it be really cool if that was the way the series ended. I again doubt Bruno Heller thought about that one, although that would be awesome! (I should have created "The Mentalist" :)
or another interesting end Angela and Charlotte are behind it, and Jane kills his wife because the wife forced Charlotte doing her dirty work for her while she sat back and watched, so Charlotte was RJ and Jane was trying to catch his daughter! ........naaaaah, lol!
Also I don't want to believe it though patrick Jane could possibly have suffered a nervous mental brake down after his familie's death to the point where he actually went insane, and he's got a double life. (I'm not ruling him out yet because he's good for it! every scene adds up! the one I most analysed was when Jane was in the Hospital and they were pumping his stomach after he consumed Bella Donna in his tea (the hallusionation of his Daughter talking to him, I found it strange the way that she said to him "Does anyone know who you are?" almost like I know what you've done and I not happy about it, to which he replies "Yes.' then Charlotte asks "Who?" then Jane is quiet and then after a moment he says "Lisbon." then the flash back to Hospital starts and he is calling Lisbon's name.
You know personally i believe around season 4 Jane proved to himself that he know the true identity of Red John, now I just believe it's a matter of time and convincing the other's at the cbi that he actually figured it out.
I believe that he just setting the stage now for Red John (hopefully) to walk right into it, because given the information he has learned of RJ he is now baiting him to catch him, even though Red John and Jane are supposedly one in the same and very symmetrical, there is one part of the bigger picture no-one is seeing, Jane has to sneak up on RJ when he is most vulnerable and he needs the tools to do it, though they are both genius one will eventually outsmart the other, Jane knows the way he operates and excites things so it's just a matter of setting up the stage for what will hopefully be on of the best reveals in tv. History! RJ thinks Jane is completely off the mark, although really this whole time he's set the stage (the witnesses, the victims families etc.) there is most definatley a bigger part to the story and I believe since Jane started in the cbi from season one to now five he set things up for a reason in order to uncover the identity of the "monster serial killer" know simply to the audience as RED JOHN.
I think Red John is Ellis Mars...
In episode 1X11 the man Red John kills wrote on the wall "he is ma.."
In episode 3X09 appears ellis mars. If we translate into Spanish the first two letters "El" means "he" : El l is Mars
I'm the fan that has just posted about Charlotte. Now some people believe that Robert Kirkland isn't Red John but here's what I think.
Reason 1 : Patrick clearly states on there first meeting "Do I know you?" as if he should know him.
Reason 2: What if that wasn't there first meeting? What if they have shook hands before, but somehow Patrick has forgotten, maybe when he had the breakdown.
Reason 3: When it flashed back and Robert Kirkland was in that limo with the woman who was talking to Minelli it is clearly a black limo just like the one Wainright was killed in.
Reason 4: Robert clearly knows about Jane's time in the hospital, as Alexa Shultz informed Minelli on the phone.
I know some people may find this far fetched - But how many children as Red John killed?
All we know is Charlotte...right?
But what if Charlotte is still alive?
Reason 1: When he used that girl and drew the Red Smiley Face on her hand, that's all he did, he didn't hurt her.
Reason 2: When Jane drank that tea he saw Charlotte and only Charlotte at the age she would be, why not his wife too? Maybe because his wife is dead.
Reason 3: What if that night they were "killed" and he opened the door Red John was there and brained washed Patrick into believing they were both dead - I mean he did brain wash Kristina Frye into believing she was dead.
Reason 4: Maybe when he had that breakdown in the hospital - Charlotte was there too. But his mind believed she was dead.
I mean when he drank the tea he had a vision and he was in a straight jacket and lying on a bed and Charlotte was standing over him.
Was she trying to get him to remember?
Reason 5: Look at the grave stones you'll see there name and only names. Why no date of birth or death?
Red John is most likely a man
He appears to be a Caucasian, and is a white person as described by Haley
Red John has an average height: Rosalind described him as "just under 6 feet tall"
Red John has short straight hair (as described by Rosalind Harker)
Red John either has or puts on an odd, high pitched and soft voice
Red John should be older than 30 years (since his murders date back to the 90's)
Brett Partridge is a Caucasian man that has an average height. He has a soft voice and his age is around the same as Patrick Jane. The reason why I choose him is because among all the other suspects, he fit the most number of clues.
Red John kills Jane's daughter and wife when Jane taunted him on tv. Patrick Jane call him sad tormented person. The reason why RJ killed Jane's family is because he feel offended. He feels offended because what Jane says is true. Brett Partridge is a very sad man. He may look happy and cheerful but that may just be an act. He is a very sad person inside as people looks down on him and people always think he is silly. Jane says that he is irksome and the whole CBI is laughing at him. If Mashburn is Red John, he would not kill Jane's family when Jane taunted him. Mashburn will not get offended because he knows he is not a very sad person. Why would Mashburn be a very tormented person when he has all the money?
when there is Red John cases, most of the time Brett Partridge is there. In one episode, Brett Partridge describe how Red John kills his victim with their blood drawn on the wall with three fingers. How would he know that if he is not Red John? Brett Partridge also has the same smile as Red John Symbol on the wall.
Brett Partridge doesnt seem to be impress with Jane psychic abilities. The reason he is not impress is because he knows that Jane is not psychic. Red John also knows that Jane is not a psychic as he call Jane a dishonest little worm after killing Jane's family. This explains why Brett Partridge doesnt get impress easily. It is because he is Red John.
When you look at Red John's episodes in Season 1 and 2, the body shape of Brett Partridge fits Red John body shape. Red John is not so muscular and not so tall, he is just under 6 feet tall as described by Rosalind Harker.Walter Mashburn is 6'3 feet tall. Mashburn is taller than what Rosalind Harker describe Red John to be. Brett Partridge is 5'11, the height fits Red John characteristic.
Bret Stiles says that Red John is jealous of Patrick Jane as Red John tries to take everything Jane has. Brett Partridge might be jealous of Jane because Jane is a very happy man and has a good life. Brett Partridge looks like the kind of guy who is a loner and weak. This explain why he would join Visualize. Visualize is all about being the best you. Mashburn did not have to join visualize to get all the right connections, he is already rich and powerful.
Bruno Heller says that when we find out who Red John is, we will be disappointed. We will definitely be disappointed if it was Brett Partridge. Brett Partridge has been suspected since Season 1 are aired. Bruno Heller might be throwing us off when he put Robert Kirkland, Ray Haffner, on the screen. He is trying to make everyone forget about the forensic guy who appears on Season 1.
Red John could not be Rigsby, Cho, Van Pelt, or Lisbon. In Season 4 finale,they are trying to trap Red John on the limo, it doesnt make sense if one of them is Red John. Red John could not be Patrick Jane's dead wife, why should she kill her own daughter? That is the most stupid theory I have ever read. If she did not want her daughter, she might as well do abortion in the first place.
I hope that Red John is Brett Partridge. There is no other pleasing storyline than a forensic guy who looks silly and foolish is actually a serial killer.Im sorry for my bad english.