I don't know who he is, but he can't be Jane because Rosalind would have recognized something about him, especially because her and Red John were lovers.
I don't know who he is, but he can't be Jane because Rosalind would have recognized something about him, especially because her and Red John were lovers.
I don't think it would make sense if PJ happened to be RJ. It could end up being very devastating end to the show. There are clues that can support the theory that RJ could be Patrick himself however there there are still major flaws in this theory. For example - who saved Patrick from the copycats if it wasn't RJ?
Now, Bob Kirkland. I very highly doubt that he could be RJ. It is possible that Bruno Heller could have double-bluffed us as the audience however I don't think he has. I think RJ has appeared in the episodes that Kirkland has and displays a genuine interest in Lorelai but only to throw us off focusing on the real RJ. I have a niggling feeling that RJ has been in the most recent episodes and Kirkland can't be RJ because his appearance has been too sudden.
I think Lorelai will reveal some more clues about RJ in the next two episodes and that's when PJ will narrow his list even further. I'm sure I read somewhere that Heller has stated firstly that "it's not likely that we're going to turn around and say hey PJ is RJ". And secondly, if I remember correctly, RJ has been seen since the first season ? If this is the case, why are there are people that are suggesting characters that have only been introduced recently (Kirkland, Lorelai)?
I am about to contradict what I just said however I think that the theorist that first put forward Walter Mashburn as a suspect has some interesting perspectives and has presented a well-researched theory.
I had my mind set on RJ being former CBI boss Virgil Minelli however with the latest developments occurring (RJ was a member of visualize, he is probably PJ's age) I have shifted my view.
SPOILER: Brett Partridge will be back on the next episode and I believe that he will be eliminated from potential suspects. I do not think he has enough power to be RJ and he is not the a-list actor that will portray RJ. The episode after that has Lorelei returning and going rogue. So, the next couple of episodes should be very interesting.
To me, I love the fact that all the names on PJ's list (the book with the names) and LaRoche's list are coming back into the fore: Brenda, Ardiles, Bertram to some extent.
I believe that Bob Kirkland is RJ. Yes, too obvious but I think that Bruno Heller has double-bluffed us. He matches the descriptions of RJ, he is the appropriate age, he is in a position of power, he has been keeping tabs on Jane from the beginning and he is an a-list actor. Heller always said that the viewers would be disappointed by RJ's reveal and Kirkland's introduction was sort of low-key. The fact that Kirkland has been involved in all of Lorelie's episodes (bar one) this season also has me believing that he is desperately trying to keep her quite.
Long live RJ and the Mentalist
:)
This is an attempt to wrap up the character of Walter Mashburn. So I've posted quite a bit about Mashburn, but I think I can tie a few more pieces of his personality to Red John, so here I go. Typically when a person rapidly acquires wealth (as Mashburn did) they enter a new type of social class called Nouveau Riche, meaning new rich. This social class is basically rich people who don't know how to behave, they lack manners, they aren't cultured, they are too gaudy, etc. They are frowned upon by their "superiors," the old rich. The old rich have etiquette, "modesty," and are cultured. Sometimes people who have recently acquired wealth find themselves alone and socially ostracized (most of this from http://www.wisegeek.com/who-are-the-nouveau-riche.htm). So, one who sought to rise above the Nouveau Riche class into the old rich class must learn quickly and have several "debuts."
Some things to note about Mashburn, he is a member at the Catamaran Club in Marin County. This club is obviously for the very wealthy, otherwise Mashburn wouldn't attend this private club. Furthermore, the club is sharply contrasted from a Nouveau Riche club in that it isn't gaudy (http://www.dba-oracle.com/golf_travel/joining_a_country_club.htm). If you notice, the people around Mashburn (as he eats with Jane and Lisbon) are a slightly old couple (latter middle age). They both have wrinkles and are dressed in a sweater vest (the man) and a sweater tied around by the arms (the woman). Very old moneyesque. Furthermore, Mashburn himself doesn't dress in a show-off manner. A blazer not matching his slacks, with a vertically striped button down. Mashburn also has a recognition for art, as he bought Liselle a very expensive painting to reward her for finding him a rare car. He propositioned her for sex, but his gift was a painting, not jewelry or something fancy that you might think a rich guy would give a girl he's interested in. Very peculiar in my opinion. In "red hot," Mashburn throws a party around other people that don't dress is a gaudy fashion (far from social ostracism) that don't appear to be part of the new rich. (A little note: the new rich typically give to charity as a means to ascend from their "lowly" status as the new rich [as mashburn does].)
So, Mashburn (in my opinion) has demonstrated that he has quickly moved out of the nouveau riche class, which is quite a social feat without having the ancestry. One might think of the things he had to do to move from reform school student to socially accepted billionaire: acquire culture, etiquette, and dress "fashionably." The first two entail a good amount of education. Learning the classics (like Bach), poetry (like William Blake), and how to decipher quality art (like the painting he gave Liselle) would seemingly be good ways to culture one's self.
In summary, Mashburn's quick rise to socially accepted billionaire was probably not just a result of his money (given the way social classes work), but rather his money and personal effort to integrate (which makes perfect sense giving his level of ambition). His personal effort probably included cultural education (literature, art, history, poetry, music, etc.), which accounts for RJ's enjoyment of Bach and his recitation of William Blake.
I think Van Pelt has some connection with Red John…
I watched Red Rum episode in
Season 1, where a boy will be murdered by some sort of sacred rituals, when
Jane and his team goes to the site where the boy has been murdered, we get a
close up shot of Van Pelt’s face when they see the body (they will show only
her face) and we can see that she is disturbed a lot. And there is another
scene in the same episode where Van Pelt instructs the football coach on how to
move with the ball (we all know that Van Pelt’s father was a football coach)
This scene meant nothing to me
until I watched Red Barn (Season 5) where we hear that the 3 guys performed
some sort of rituals with farm animals. Red John killed two guys because they
were performing some sort of rituals.
I think Van Pelt is Red John’s
daughter, remember? Jane and Van Pelt joined together in CBI.
When Red John case was handed over
to Bosco, Jane felt very bad and finally when Rebecca kills Bosco and his team,
Jane asks why she did it, she tells, “So that you can have the case back”.
Let me tell you the significance of that
statement, only when Jane has the case back Van Pelt gets to know all the
information directly because she is in Lisbon’s team and she can pass it to RJ.
I just remembered one episode someone said something like "the man who ran Visualize before Bret did i don't know but something like that someone look it up or something maybe Red John is the man who ran it before Bret did it would make sense
Red John is someone Patrick Jane has met.
Someone who is or was a part of Visualize as long ago as the 80's.
Someone known to Bret Styles.
Someone that viewers are not likely to suspect, but who viewers will likely recognize.
Answer: Jason Cooper