Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Ha Ha Bruno Heller should have been Red John and this is what the dialogue would have with Simon Baker.

PJ : "After all these years,  fan of Mentalist deserve an extraordinary end and you did a terrible mistakes It's not fair! "

RJ : "It's totally fair. The show's over and I won" :)

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How can we not be disappointed, when the writing in here have been at such a level of creativity. I don't know how many writers the show has, but in here, there's hundreds of people sharing theories, combinding them into epic and plausible conclusions to this Red John hunt.

There's been talks about phobias, height of people matching descriptions, first handshakes, faking deaths, twin brothers... 

How do we not get disappointed? We set the bar too high!

Some ups and downs for this episode.
McCallister played a perfect Red John until the pigeon trick.
How did he know RJ feared pigeons? He must have known it was McCallister, because he eliminated heights earlier. 
 
Who the hell was the woman that came into the church?
RJ crying, people screaming help when seeing an injured man, RJ fearing death.....Didn't make sense to me. 

So many questions. 

Guess I'm hoping that some of it is revealed. 

Really liked how they played Rock, paper scissor when they first met, and especially enjoyed the when Patrick strangled him. The satisfaction, or rather the weight lifted from his shoulders, the relief, really showed. 

Thanks for a great reading on this site. People who created this should do it for every show that has an unwritten conclusion. People become so creative!



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go pidgey!
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Easy there people, this is not the end of the show yet, how can you be so sure we are not going to get our long awaited answers on the next few episodes?

Have you seen the next episode's promo? Look it up on youtube or something. Doesn't it seem a bit too happy and calm for you? What good is that for a show to spend a whole episode on Jane living his new life with a random woman we don't even know or care about? Don't be fooled, I doubt that's going to be how this show will play itself out for the rest of the season.

I've seen people complaining that the great Red John can't be defeated by a pigeon, but that's his phobia! We knew RJ had some kind of phobia and Jane somehow figured it out and used it against him. Patrick had figured out how the bomb trick worked so he must have known the real RJ would be either Mcallister, Haffner or Stiles.

If there is one tiny thing Im going to complain about was the promo. They didn't need to straight out show Mcallister in the promo, that pretty much gave it all up.

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I don't think that McAllister was Red John.

Not only would that be a terrible semi-ending and leave viewers hopeless of the next half of the season, but would also savagely dilute the whole purpose and meaning behind the series.
The preview of the next episode, My Blue Heaven, seems relatively similar to the time when Jane was with Lorelei Martins; he's in spirit, happy, but this isn't right.

Although this episode did disappoint everyone, I believe that the real Red John episode will be the last episode (or second to last). The writer has developed such a complicated and intense series and won't be ruining it by killing the whole point of the show halfway through the show's final season.

I don't think that the murder of the gym spy from a few episodes ago was Red John himself. It did lead to the discovery of the Blake Association which was progress, but the tattoo on Partridge's arm indicates another level of the pyramid; a sort of hierarchy. I don't think that Partridge was Red John, but merely a closer pawn than what Bertram was (three dots on arm).

My Assumptions:

There are many paths from here, but I think that the first three are in the next episode. With all possibilities, we are given the insight that Jane has found a lover and has moved to the California Coast Line (My Guess is Santa Cruz) due to episode 9's trailer in which Jane is seen walking the beach with a Red haired woman.

Possibility # 1 would be that Jane finds out that the woman is just another spawn of Red John, in which the season would immediately spark again and all of us viewers would be greatly pleased due to the restoration in the show's purpose. I don't think that the character of Red John would care if Jane were to kill him, the closest thing I can think of as far as resistance would be the death of them both (which would be the last episode logically).

Possibility # 2 would be that the next half of the season would be concentrated on assisting Jane's CBI team from the fury of the Civil Court. This would be a fan's nightmare and would probably end up being a Dexter-style ending to what was an amazing show.

Possibility # 3 comes straight from the trailer in which Jane is proposed re-entrance into the CBI and relief from the past charges that were placed on him. This seems to me like the most viable option and will lead to Possibility # 1. Red John enjoyed playing games with Jane from the beginning, it's the whole idea of the series. If Jane doesn't solve murders, Red John is left hopeless and bored (which was mentioned in an episode in a previous season). 

I'm not sure, all three are quite a stretch but I definitely think that the writer has a bigger plan for the series, one that would not disappoint fans. Agree with me? Click plausible! Don't? That's fine too.

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I was disappointed after watching the episode, as it was suggested we all would be, but my disappointment was due to the episode itself, I am ok with McAllister being RJ even if he has had lack of screen time until this season compared to some of the other suspects, he's a decent actor and is creepy enough, wasn't my pick, but kudos to those that chose him, just how his demise came about, a very weak ending to RJ indeed. I'm sure during the remaining episodes we will find more answers to some our list of endless questions, but I think there will still be many questions left when the Mentalist is over....just hope not too many!

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This episode, and the entire Red John storyline, could have been saved with this shot at the end:

We are looking over a man's shoulder at the TV, which is showing a news story about the death of Bertram and Red John. 

The man picks up a cup of tea, and in that thin, high voice says:

"The game is over, Patrick... and I won!"

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