Just something that caught my attention in season5 episode16 is wer lorelei is found red, carnival perhaps? look at the props in the background, she was on her way to kill red john wasn't she? why would she end up in what seems to be a carnival? we all know janes background.
Facts:
- "He is Mar" on the wall. A lower case r is an unfinished n.
- Judge Manchester meets Jane in Season 5 Episode 1. Lorelei reveals that Jane has met him in Season 5 Episode 8.
- The judge was the one who gave Jane custody of Lorelei as a prisoner.
- Seems like he's always in the right place in the right time. Like at the Poker game when he talked to Lisbon. He is too minor of a character to keep bringing back without some value.
- Generally seems like an arrogant, manipulative, smart, deceptive guy. He is the type that knows how to get inside people's heads, like how he got inside Minelli's head with the poker games. Maybe he lost on purpose because he knew Minelli would then send Van Pelt to training for some reason.
- The Manchester United football team are nicknamed Red Devils. The writer of the show, Bruno Heller, was born and raised in the United Kingdom.
I know these are all really broad, but anyone else suggested so far would be way too obvious. What do you guys think?
i think that red john is
Agent Ray Haffner
becouse he in agant in cbi and have access to any place in the bilding and can kill the secrtary of bosco ,he is a member in Visualize and he strong enough to be red john,thats what i think?
After the latest episode I am really sad and upset. Frankly, we don't know anything about Red John, Bruno Heller thinks we are fool, therefore he gives us just a little crumble (they shook hands etc.)
I feel, we won't see the unmask Red John end of this season.
I give up now, when the end of the whole season (6th or 7th) I will watch the rest of unfortunately I have to wait until this happen.
The producer in a trap, I think lot of fun put The Mentalist season at side track because of Red John mystery. He always just promises, promises, like a politician.
Who (like Jason Lennon) likes fishing, was in the cbi for a short while watching Jane before the deaths of bosco and his team, and has underground ways of getting information from people, Virgil Minelli of course, if he isn't red John then Jason Lennon was just a throwaway accomplice, why reveal he was a keen angler?
Also we now know it's noone from the team because why didn't lorelei try and kill them there and then at lennons home
could RJ be related to PJ. Coz Red John Could be like RJ. So like reggy Jane, or something
Well I figured out who Red John is a few weeks ago, but now I just confirmed it (read to the end). I've read all the theories and did not make my own because I didn't want it to have any holes like the others.
Grace has red hair - obvious clue. Now the fact she is away at some computer class thing is suspicious, but not as suspicious as the fact the writers decide to have Rigsby randomly ask Cho on the radio what he thinks she is doing. They joke about it, but why else include that. Obviously this is not enough but I have plenty more. The next thing is I've watched a fair share of TV shows to know how they set stuff up. It would clearly be too boring to have it as one of the department heads of the CBI, or that FBI Brett goon. It would be wild if it was Jane himself, and I gave this a fair shake - the smiley face really does look like him. That would be a little to movie-ish and extreme, but perhaps the writers will use it as a back up. Perhaps they will have to now that I'm uncovering this. But I'm sure they will disclose Red John in an upcoming episode. Anyway there have been many instances where Grace walks in late to work with some phony excuse, and they focus on her with no background noise, very suspicious like. They do this in a lot of shows and it's really subtle. Obviously Grace being Red John is also really unexpected and exciting to please the viewers.
Anyway here's the solid proof you want. Any good TV show or movie that prolongs a character (character delay) for a good long while and makes the character of utmost importance, must attach meaning to the character's name. Usually this comes in the form of scrambled letters. In literature, names have symbolism, just read Death of a Salesman. To make a corny example, the last name of a tough character might be Hardman (Daniel Hardman in suits). Or a fair character may be Alan Balanco (made that one up). But when the character is REALLY important, they tend to scramble the letters, for more of a riddle effect. So we know Patrick Jane comes from a carnival background (too soon?). Now we've seen the closest link, Laurel-eye (she sees Red John, hence the "eye"), getting it? So anyway she is killed in a carnival setting. And the smiley has more blood dripping in the face, because we are getting closer - either Red John trying to hide or some other symbolism - more real, not sure. In any case, if you mix up Grace Van Pelt, you will find not the word Carnival but instead "CARNEVALE", the classic literature form of Carnival. So not only do they put the word carnival, but they use the dramatic form. I cannot see any better solidified proof than this, other shows included. Just imagine Jane saying "CARNEVALE" very dramatically. I'm sure you will one day. It's a nice tough I will say, and it doesn't ruin it one bit for me. My favorite show ever, deservedly so. Good night friends.