Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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The whole show was like a foreplay and all by sudden we got fucked in the ass without lube! so shocking .... 
No closure whatsoever.


To hell with you Heller! 

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RED JOHN





Friends with Orville Tanner,
father of Dumar. Took Dumar under his wing when Orville died and
most probably landed him the Sheriff's job aswell.


A member of visualize who worked
at the barn back in 1988. Mcallister was most likely taken in by
Bret Stiles as a damaged man. This obviously stems from an abusive
childhood upbringing for Mcallister that probably involved abuse
from both mother and father to the point where recovery to live a
normal life was beyond him.
Stiles took him in, nurtured him
and sent him to the farm to work. It was here that Stiles realised
that Mcallister had murdered the other 2 workers. Whether Mcallister
threatened, blackmailed Stiles or Stiles simply could not have the
name of Visualize be asscociated with a serial killer they both
agreed to keep it between themselves, hence Stiles always knew
Mcallister was Red John and Red John now had leverage over Stiles.
Hence why Stiles had to die, loose end especially since he was dying
and Jane was narrowing the list.


Bosco and his team had come across
the evidence about Carter & Janet Peak, Jane realised that Red
John does make mistakes and if not for Rebecca, Bosco and his team
may have been able to identify the DNA from Carter Peak's body.


Kristina Frye is either a RJ
operative or member of Visualize. This is how RJ knew to say Roll
Tide to Patrick in the season 2 finale, this is why RJ did not kill
Frye after she went on TV and the whole zombie I'm alive but dead
thing is just an act, I mean she is an RJ operative, a self
proclaimed psychic, she would have all the skills Patrick posseses
to deceive and put on a show. This is also how Stiles knew where
Frye was in season 3 episode 1.


The person who killed Rebecca was
indeed another accomplice, the same accomplice who sat in the food
court in the red sweater.


It was the real RJ in the season 2
finale with the mask. It is the same hunting knife used by RJ
throughout, including in the scene with Lisbon where she has her
face painted in season 6 episode 1. The smiley face on Lisbon was to
show Patridges death, he never got to finish Lisbon because either
1) He had her bugged and used her for intel on Jane or 2) The
pigeons scared him away before he got to finish her off.


Timothy Carter was not a law
enforcement Tiger Tiger member, but he has no recorded past at all,
so he knew RJ from the past and it was RJ that helped him kidnap all
of the children with ease therefore Carter would do anything for RJ,
even standing in pretending to be him at the foodcourt.

How did he hook up with Lorelei? Lorelei was with him because he made her believe he had saved Lorelei from a downward spiral and that he would help her in her quest to get revenge on her sisters killer, when in fact it was him.

Rebecca followed him because as Jane said, she was a messed up kid, came from abuse etc, something RJ knew all too well about, and with Stiles taking him under his wing, showing RJ how to make followers of people, this was too easy for RJ.

The big clue in S06E01 final scene was the hunting knife, although we were not suppose to put that together until a later episode where we found out Mcallister was a hunter.

He is Mar...ked.

How was he able to buy the barn under Cut Iron properties, have limo's for his accomplices etc?
Stiles and Visualize, they funded anything he needed.

As for how he got the list, Jane knows how. But he also knows that RJ is dying to tell Jane himself. This is what get's him going, RJ wants nothing more than Janes approval, or at least to be able to tell/show him how amazing he is and how smart he is. Jane refusing to care or know how RJ did it is the ultimate insult and this is the 1 thing RJ really wanted to tell Jane more than anything, Jane knew this and never gave him the opportunity. RJ's last attempt at telling Jane he is a REAL psychic was nothing more than a last gasp attempt at making himself look divine/amazing/smart/god like in Janes eyes before he died...unfortunately for RJ, Jane already knew how he did it and killed him.

In the end, RJ was nothing more than a man, a sexually sadistic, egotistical psycho and in no way was Jane going to give him satisfaction in letting him think all he had done was to be marvelled at.

Goodbye RJ...

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from the heller interview

Red John said he was psychic. Is that to be believed?
Heller: I would leave that thread dangling …  Jane feels very strongly, as I do, that psychics don’t exist. But you can’t tell that to the many millions of people who go to psychics every week and get genuine comfort and solace and understanding from what those psychics say. So that’s very deliberately a way of not being doctrinaire about that issue and leaving it to the audience. All answers to that question are correct and it depends on your point of view.

#fuck those people and give us a real explanation

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Will we get more information about Red John?

Heller: We won’t be going back.  …  Once the curtain is drawn back from these evil Wizard of Oz
characters they tend not to be very interesting dinner companions. They
tend to be ego-maniacal one-track minds … There is a great deal of
[backstory], if anyone waned to ask those questions, I’d be happy to
answer. There’s a lot of questions about motivations and what [Red John]
was doing and when and how… It makes for great Internet fodder, but
it’s not very entertaining for a weekly TV audience.


Ok guys, this is it. No explanations at all. Thank you Bruno Failer for nothing!

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There is no doubt this is the true and final ending.

What a crock of shit.

In an interview with TV Guide, they specifically mentioned that Bruno Heller "chose" McAllister to be Red John about a year ago!!! - Meaning Heller had NO PLAN about who Red John was supposed to be from the very beginning.  That.  Is.  UNFORGIVABLE.  He never had a plan, never had a story.  It's why NONE of our questions will ever be answered ("He is Mar") - THERE WERE NEVER ANY ANSWERS!!!  He was making it up as he went along.

I will never watch this show again.

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Did you notice that the voice of "red john" when he says "the game is over and I won" is not the same in the leaked episode and in yesterday's episode?
It is higher in the second version. It seems like a lame attempt to make McAllister's voice to fit "red john" 's real voice, the one we all heard on the phone (ex: I'm sorry patrick, Teresa can't come to the phone right now).

I have a strong feeling that we need to wait, the story might not be really over yet. Did heller said that we would know who RJ is in this episode OR in this season? 

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Dexter's ending was a way better than Red John reveal.
Seriously add to this disappointment the fact it was leaked, any explanation, this is crap.
We still don't know for partridge, for the list, for nothing.

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