I'd like a series about Red John's past, explaining how he turned into the antagonist we all have learned to respect, and in the final episode of the series he murders Jane's family. I actually loved it being McAllister, AND the Red John episode. I have followed this show since it first aired here in Norway, when I was 12, and for me, this was the best kind of closure on the Red John-saga. To see him at his weakest, begging for his life. It felt good to know that Red John was as human as the rest of us in the face of death. I know there are few who agree with me, but I for one love what Heller has done. He still dignified his character.

Ok , so , the episode was aquite disapointing , for us the players, we were playing a mindgame with red john , we want to know everything that happened , patrick doesn't , he simply doesn't give a fuck , he wants old fashion revenge , not a little mindgame, so ,yeah i would like to know how everything happened, i htink bruno heller will tell us , but it will not  be through patrick jane , i dont know how but it wouldnt fit the profile if jane just stand there listening to how he did everything

I'm Red John.

Did anyone else notice in the very last 4-5 seconds of Episode 8 of this season, that the sombre and haunting music turns quite sinister?

It starts when a man comes on screen with his hands clasped behind his back as he watches a little girl go down a slide ( we presume his daughter).

I wonder....

Is this is the same man that sits between Jane and Timothy Carter in the red sweater?

Is it too much to ask that the man is in both episodes that Jane thinks he's killed Red John?

I would have loved to hear this tune while Patrick was finishing him :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-0MtJ2Jc8

I believe that Reede Smith killed Michael Kirkland; therefore Bob is still floating around somewhere.
If RJ can have Timothy Carter impersonate Rj, and Bertram impersonate RJ on the phone with PJ, then why not have Sheriff McAllister impersonate him. I am hopeful that the typical characteristics of a serial killer will come out in the real Red John. I don't believe that Patrick is as stupid as the writers have portrayed him and will defintely clear up what Patrick knows.