Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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You see, Red John has made people speak on his behalf.  Of course those people die soon after.  If you steal Red John's "thunder", you will be killed.  Red John could have been Sheriff McCallister; I would believe it.  From the first time Jane met that Sheriff, McCallister had a problem with Jane.  The odd part about it being McCallister is that McCallister saved him; however, if people were watching, and McCallister did nothing, people might get suspicious.  They'd ask why did you just sit there? or How did Jane die, and why are you here?  It is also plausible to assume that Red John setup McCallister to call Jane with that voice, from the beginning.  The "Blake Association" is cops, so they are going to be watched by cops.  Being around police in a police station will make a criminal careful.  Of course, Red John is only human, and he would eventually slip up.  However, he may still be out there.  If he is still out there, he will be aiming for Jane next.  McCallister did not try to kill Jane with a knife.  I would expect red John to try to use a blade of some sort.  Despite the victory for Jane, there is still the Blake association. I have some doubts as well about McCallister naming his organization: "The Blake Association".  However, it would not be traced back by name to police.  Something like Fraternal Order of Police would tip somebody off. 
Despite the victory for Jane, there is still the Blake association.  The people who were obvious members of Red John's secret organization that Jane shot are not suspects anymore.  We are left wondering if the show picks up as usual, without the hunt for Red John. 

We are also left to wonder about the police that are members of the Blake Association. Their supposed leader is dead, but they are all fugitives.  The three star tattoo is a giveaway.  The show picks up two years later, and something brings them back together.   The last words of "RED JOHN": I will tell you who helped me in the CBI.  Was it Gal Bertram?  We already know! 
Could it be that the three tattoo was just a faction.  I could have sworn that Red John would not have gotten so angry at Jane.  McCallister was cool headed, but Bertram was cool headed.  Everybody was calm.  I saw some anger, when Jane called him a sociopath.  I thought Red John would have laughed.  Consider that Red John murdered his wife and daughter; Red John already has retaliated, so he has no need to express anger. I thought that the voice was a setup.  The episode when Jane gets confronted by Red John while being tied up was a total setup.  It could have been real, but it is just so easy to order subordinates to do your dirty work.  Plus, Red JOhn used a gun to kill those film students, and he didn't leave any faces painted in blood. 
Well if McCallister could pretend to be dead, anyone in the organization could pretend to be dead - supposing that McCallister is not the head of the "Blake Association".  I am suggesting any more serial killers from that association be called Blake Association killer(s).  I prefer no more color adjectives for serial killers, unless it is outside the Blake Association.

We know red John killed someone back in '88.  I am thinking it may have been a father and son killing that started the Red JOhn symbol.  think about the need for an ensignia.  The killer is claiming the kill.  He would do it to protect somebody like a father. 
red John could also be trying to establish a pattern to hang on to someone else by creating an ensignia.  Its a calling card to a crime.  You would have to be subconsciously trying to protect someone elses involvment by taking credit for the crime, or you would be establishing a rapport with law enforcement to try to set somebody up.  If you keep the right frame of mind, you could be prepared for any unforeseeable events.  Red John could be a meticulous serial killer.  I would think that the father son combination would be unlikely.
 
Out on that farm anybody could have been hurting those animals.  Red John was there.  The Police need to identify McCallister as a person who was there.  Did McCallister catch that towns sheriff as a child dealing drugs?  Did he then confront the people who were paying for the drugs?  Is that how McCallister got started?  McCallister could have put the ensignia there to let the boy know that McCallister would take credit for the murders, and he would also let the boy go on drug possession charges.  How does the sheriff never see the red john ensignia?  Did a drug deal go bad, and McCallister cleaned it up?  The key to understanding what happened is in the beginning.  Where did it all start?  Since the first murder took place on Visualize farmland, the real red john has some affiliation with visualize.

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Theory #15573 • By Stoopkid
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For all you haters out there , when red john said he created the blake association ; that answered 95 percent of the questions . If you didn't like the episode thats totally fine . But dont say it was badly written and that no answers were given. Thats shit! Your acting like the mentalist isnt a semi cheesy show with cheesy dialogue ! You know its main demographic is old ladies too. Im 28 and i love it , but i am also honest about what it is and was. Jane didnt wanna give rj the satisfaction about explaining how he guessed the list. That was cool. When jane strangled him after making rj feel sorry for everything was wicked and cool. The gurgling was great. It wasnt partridge and you need to understand that. Why wasnt it bp? Becuase bp had an even lesser role on the show than maclister ! Seriously he had like 5 lines and jane rippwd him apart every-time. Partridge was cool cuz he sucked and was dumb and jane destroyed him verbally.

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McAlister was a briliant RJ but the problem is that we didn't get any answers.
I would be disappointed if Partridge or Smith were RJ, cmon creepy forensic ghoul and chubby FBI guy.Jack Plotnick is a good actor but for RJ role i would vote for Mashburn, Haffner or Kirkland.

We had many amazing actors and they picked one of them, but the rest of the story in episode 6x8 was lame and disappointing.

Maybe Heller will make a new move and Jane will meet new archenemy in South America( Juan Rojo) 

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I like that PJ didn't care about RJ's reasoning or genius; he was able to witness him beg, apologize, suffer, and then die by his own hands. I also completely agree that after all the anticipation and clue hunting, this was anticlimactic in that we didn't get a lot of answers. As an optimist, and as someone who is thankful for the great tv BH has provided us in the past, I wonder, perhaps he purposefully intended for us nerds to have fun answering these questions? After all, if he had answered everything in that episode, would we have anything to talk about in this forum? ...

On another note...we know that BH has compared RJ to Professor Moriarty. I think it's interesting that McAllister is the only one suspect who is also referred to by his title, "sheriff", rather than his first name. Neat! 

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Before you skip past this please, hear me out. I know Red John has supposedly been revealed as the sheriff, Thomas McAllister but I believe that he is not the real Red John. I will explain why, but first let me talk about the episode itself.   The episode is certainly not of the standards of the genius Bruno Heller, and the whole thing just felt way too rushed. Heller has always tricked and surprised us, but McAllister turning up as well as Bertram really wasn't surprising at all, after all we saw McAllister in the promo! And who really thought that Patrick would tell the world Red John's identity anyway, so that ruled out Bertram right there. What Patrick did wasn't a great trick or a beautiful work of his mind like we all expected and hoped for, and Patrick and RJ barely talked anyway and no questions were answered. The whole episode felt like a big joke from Heller, kind of like a test to see who would buy that McAllister is really Red John. But anyway now I will get on with the actual theory and thanks for sticking around so far.   I think that the reason Patrick was so brief with McAllister was because Patrick knows that McAllister isn't Red John, and that the real Red John would be watching and laughing the big chase through the neighbourhood - thinking he had Patrick fooled. I think that the real Red John thinks that he is playing Patrick, and Patrick is actually playing him. When I found out that Bret Stiles was truly dying I suspected him as before, as Red John, I thought the fact that he was dying mirrored the ending of the Red John storyline. And when he died in the explosion, just like that, with such a brief explanation I thought that it couldn't be right. The majority of you are probably thinking how Stiles could kill all the people at such an old age, and I answer your thoughts with this - he doesn't kill them. I think that Stiles is the brains of Red John, the man who pulls the strings. I will get on to who the muscle or puppet aspect of Red John is in just a second.    As soon as the list of seven was revealed, straight away the only person from that list that I could imagine being Red John and actually being smarter than Jane was Stiles. At this point in The Mentalist there are still a lot of loose ends that need to be wrapped up and explained, I think we as the long term viewers really deserve it. Some of these loose ends are the "He is Mar" thing, which I for one cannot explain (please leave a comment if you have any idea), but I think I can explain however the Kirkland twin situation, and Kristina Frye. I think Stiles is the only one from the list capable of brainwashing the likes of Kristina Frye, and that explains how he knew where she was - if Stiles actually is Red John and brainwashed her. As for Michael Kirkland, I think he is the muscle of Red John. We all know that Red John gains his followers or disciples when they are at a weak point in their lives, and where do people go when they feel so weak and helpless, maybe after a loss? A place like Visualise that boast that they can help you see the world in a different way. I think Michael found Visualise in their early days, and that Stiles intended to brainwash and control Michael and probably did, but used him to satisfy his need for killing. After watching the eighth episode, I thought that Red John couldn't just go down like that and with no connection to visualise.    Now onto how Patrick is playing Red John. I have watched the promo for episode 9 and Patrick seems to go on holiday, or go on vacation. Remember how Patrick faked a breakdown and even we believed it until he actually told Lisbon it was all just a trick? I think this is similar, in how Patrick will escape from it all pretending he has forgotten his old life, in the knowledge that RJ will contact him or kill again. I think Patrick will do some greater trick, something classic Patrick Jane that would really credit his character and end up finding Red John. I think that Patrick will find and kill Michael Kirkland, and maybe see Stiles and talk, discuss, and explain things a bit intending to kill Stiles. I think Stiles will escape somehow though, and it will take Patrick a few days to finally track down Stiles again - The True Mastermind. I think Patrick will find out Stiles is staying in his mansion, and Patrick will enter the mansion and be greeted by a maid. The maid will then inform Patrick that Stiles passed away of natural causes just that day, and Patrick will have to accept that he never actually killed the mind of Red John. In my opinion that would be the perfect ending to a perfect show, but tell me what you think. Hit Green if you agree with me or found my Theory interesting. Thanks for reading, and please leave a comment giving me your thoughts and opinions.  

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Do you folks think there's any value in the red sweater guy from the episode where Jane kills Timothy Carter (Strawberries and Cream)? It seems a little odd to introduce a "new" character to the show in the last 5 episodes but are we really going to get 5 more episodes of seeing Jane meeting women and playing with children in Mexico. I would definitely take a new character over McAllister being the guy also. Let me know your thoughts! If you're not familiar with the red sweater theory google it.

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Do you folks think there's any value in the red sweater guy from the episode where Jane kills Timothy Carter (Strawberries and Cream)? It seems a little odd to introduce a "new" character to the show in the last 5 episodes but are we really going to get 5 more episodes of seeing Jane meeting women and playing with children in Mexico. I would definitely take a new character over McAllister being the guy also. Let me know your thoughts! If you're not familiar with the red sweater theory google it.

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