At this point I'm not even going to bother saying I'm disappointed...but what I am going to say is HOW IS NO ONE DISCUSSING THE STRANGEST PART OF THE WHOLE EPISODE...

Bertram cals patrick and says "I don't have to use a creepy voice, you know who this is." Then says, " you've got it all wrong, I'm not red john." Then McCallister says, "he didn't even know I was red john."

How in the hell did bertram know about the creepy voice if he wasn't red john and was never around to hear the voice and didn't know mccallister was RJ?

And if no one knew mccallister was in charge or that he was red john why did cordero shoot bertram for mccallister after doing everything to make sure bertram was safe? How the hell did cordero become so important? That whole scene, including the hidden bird was absolute horse shit and some of the most illogical crap I've ever seen on tv.

I will tune in next week to see the next episode, I’m not gonna let one
episode ruin my love for this show, but I’m afraid we have seen the
beginning of the end, and that sadness me. But I hope I'm wrong

Like a lot, I was disappointed by this revelation. Obviously, I expected more.
I'm not okay with Mc Allister as RJ but well, I would have accepted it with concreat explanations. For now, it just make no sense for me letting all this questions without answers.
The more I think about this ep, the more I believe it was another trick and RJ's story is not over yet. For several reasons.

1. There is no explanations or flashback that would make me agree with Mc Allister as RJ. And by the way, why PJ didn't let him explain how he got the list of suspects ??

2. There is too many elements that make no sense. RJ defeated by a fucking bird ? How could Cordero find the gun but not A BIRD ? That's unbelievable ! And if Mc Allister is afraid of birds, why would have he killed Partridge in a house full of birds ?
And RJ calling 911 because he's afraid to die ? Ok, he can still be a man but common, he's a serial killer, he changed the rules and said the game would end when PJ catch him or he catch PJ. For me, it sounds like a game which end with the death of one of them, knowing that it's sounds unbelievable that he's afraid to die ! But that's my opinion.
For me, if Mc Allister call 911, it's more because he's another RJ's soldier and he started to realize where being so devoted will lead him. But that's my opinion.

3. The voice: "The game is over and I won". Ok, I know Baker made the voice himself... But, c'mon guys, how could a men with such a loud voice suddenly speak with this kind of voice ? That doesn't match at all !

4. "He is Mar". Ok, it could be "He is Mac", it sounds like Mac Allister, but can also sound like Michael Kirkland, which was and still is my number1 suspect here.

5. Others numerous clues (or fake ones, maybe) make me think Mc Allister can't be the real RJ:
- Why Kirkland killed Lennon at the hospital without asking who was RJ despite he was chasing him ?
- Why mention that Kirkland has a TWIN brother and not only a brother ? A simple brother would have been sufficient to justify his quest of revenge, no ?
- What is the link with Visualize ? For me, RJ is somebody both linked to Visualize and Blake Associations. Haffner was a good suspect, but he doesn't have the tatoo. Michael Kirkland could be a good suspects: he would have been taken out from his drunk problem by Bret Stiles and Visualize and would have become RJ over the time. That would explain why Stiles said he knows much than PJ or RJ would ever know.
- Why killing the Big Vilain in the first part of the season ? Again, it makes no sense to me.


No way, we will see how the season evolve. I will make my mind definitely by the end of the season. But, if it was really the end of RJ, I will be very, very disappointed.

At first I was pretty dissappointed, but after rewatching it and thinking about it, I believe it was a good ending. I am sure the loose ends will be tied up in future episodes.

The patheticness of Red John as he died at the hands of Jane is a beautiful example of how sad some "evil" people are. Egotistical, and wimpy when confronted while they aren't in control.

If this really isn't the end, I'll be surprised.

ok folks, I want to say as much:  Like you all even I was a little disappointed in the ending partly because I was in denial of a few things. But having said that, I say it is still a very good show and the main point of the show is Jane's brilliant mind or skills. Maybe thats what Heller wanted to indicate in not hyping rj too much. My main rant is that PJ should have figured out RJ's identity not the other way round like they showed that RJ introduced himself and thats counterintuitive to the show's idea. But we are all humans maybe thats what it means.
                             Now please dont abandon this website. Hang on and let the community thrive. we will have more fun I am sure in times to come. So keep loggin in and paying your 2 cents, please.

It seems that everyone is expecting a grand showdown, in typical
fashion, where there's supposed to be a "climax."  Frankly, that's not
how the real world works.  Also, wouldn't it be even more boring if
Heller uses this kind of formula? 

I did have such hopes but not
as "hyped up" as many.  I also firmly believe Heller's way of doing
this is to let us keep following the development as 2 years ahead where
Jane is having a new life will look back & bring back subtle &
little clues & episode by episode answer the unanswered questions.

Like 1 fan said here, Jane coolly negated the "God's play" that RJ tried to pull on him. 

So, if you put all "your own expectations" aside, & watch S06e08, you'll see it's NOT a grand finale or end of it.  Heller wants to use the remaining 16 or so episodes to really bring out who RJ really was. 

Think about it, how can RJ & the missing links be explained in just 1 episode??

I'd wait till the season finale (e23?) before making a conclusion on this.

Ok. so I have only one problem with the red john episode. The fact that Patrick jane did not know who red john really is. PJ is The Mentalist and got out-mentalisted by RJ.

If PJ does not want to know about how RJ got the list, we should not too.

PJ wouldnt want his CBI crew to be a direct accomplice to murder or even put them in harms way hence he did not involve them when going to the cemetary.

PJ has been planning his kill for 10 years and you could see that he truly and unregrettably meant killing RJ while he was doing it. He is free finally and doesnt care about any unanswered questions. He can now move on.

Once again PJ is the mentalist and that is why i continued to watch this show every week and will continue to watch it for as long as its on. I watch it to experience PJ's cleverness and cold reading and humour when he solves crimes week on week.

Finally, I will end on the same not I started: a rant about why did PJ not know who RJ is (or why did he seem surprised it was not Bertram).

Thank You.