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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I've noticed this afternoon that the chat on Facebook has changed and when the another person is typing the message, it appears three dots, so I assume that Mark Zuckerberg = Red John. 

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I hope they make Partridge look ultra cool on Sunday. He's got the voice nailed- its definitely nothing like his voice on Criminal Minds, which is Red John's soft phone voice. In the Red John episode Partridge is going to use a deeper voice.

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It was a shame and a disappointment that the revealed identity was the Sheriff. Some points were intentionally (i think) left unanswered, like the Sheriff-RJ has also mentioned. The only good parts of this RJ finale was the pigeon trick, the recurring insulting manner of Jane, bare-hand strangle and, for me, the most importantly, the quotation of RJ that says: "c'ause I am a real psychic!"...

This little detail was far too god for me for such a lousy so-called finale of RJ; so here i think how the real story goes:

This trigger quotation of RJ made me believe that this RJ candidate was also a puppet under hypnosis of the real RJ, just like the one in the season 3 finale as I remember. I think, the real RJ makes Jane a serial killer step by step, as he killed people with gun twice (one for puppet RJ, one for saving Lisbon from an associate of RJ in season finale), with bare hands, by burying, with bomb (as a setup of Sheriff), so he wants Jane to taste all kinds of murdering one by one and make him a killer up to a point that Jane can't claim anything about his innocence anymore. 

Real RJ? Maybe it will reveal himself as a Season finale of 6; because the story was about PJ-RJ rivalry, and the show must find something really good to keep up for at least another season, or even for a season finale.

The "I am a real psychic" irritation must mean something. I am sorry that I am not satisfied with what we had been given, but again, I am going with Minelli again. The list is merely alive now; only Reede Smith is still living; so, if we hear any more of RJ, I will say that "another puppet bastard" was used again.

Tell me one thing: why did RJ killed those 9 women at first place? He said "I will start killing again, much more this time" via Lorelei Martins; his counted murders are less than the first 9 women; we also couldn't learn the fundamental behind of being a serial 'women' killer (male victims are only a necessity) and a Blake Society leader at the same time. 

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Hi guys.
I have to agree with most
of you concerning the Red John reveal. The "final twist"
was rather disapointing. However, i believe this was kind of a
obvious result of a trap Bruno Heller set up for himself the moment
he chose this "7 names list" plot device in order to build
up for the final reveal. Yep, Smith or Bertram couldn't be Red John
so someone had to come back up from the dead (Visualize farm clue
excluded Partridge for me right away due to his relatively young
age).
About the final confrontation, some may call it ridiculous
some may call it poetic. I believe it fits both Patrick Jane and Red
John characters. Revenge is all that matters for Patrick. As for Red
John, some people here seem to share some of these mentioned
"delusions of grandeur" about this supposed "evil
genius". He's smart, he put a lot of work in this "Blake
association", he may share some similar skills with Patrick (or
tries to mimic them at least, with the list con and other creative
tricks, hypnosis skills, etc...), but in the end of the day this is
all a great “act” and he ends being just a coward and a deluded
sociopath seeking for some appreciation. Patrick always was the
smartest man in the room. He was just outnumbered by Red John's corrupt
network in the law enforcement. Hiding the shadows while Patrick is
exposed all the time also gives him a position of power in this game
from the very beginning. I truly enjoyed the final moment in the
park. The pigeon moment... not so much. Red John may not be the ultimate
genius some people like to think he is. Still, falling for that
pigeon trick was  dumb of him (maybe due to arrogance but
still.....). Nevertheless, the pigeon was the way Bruno Heller found
to send the message that Patrick had it figured out before the
meeting with Bertram. (Given that he knew that Mcallister had bird
phobia).

Now about the clues not building up... Well I believe
most of them actually build up for him pretty nicely. Physical
descriptions (Rosalind, Sophie Miller) suggest us that he is a middle
aged caucasian man with soft voice, short hair, good posture. (checks
for Mccallister, also checks for some other suspects).
Now,
Rebecca Anderson's death scene strongly suggests that Red John is in
fact a cop. Most likely a ordinary cop/small town sheriff keeping
contact with institutions such as CBI. Thus being able to enter CBI
dressed as a cop and poisoning Rebecca. (Meeting scene with Bertram
and Smith proves that the sheriff visited CBI grounds more than once)
Dummar Tanner and Todd Johnson's cases also build up to this. Last
one is also a clue for Blake's Association (Manipulated by RJ to do
some cop killing. Most likely cutting some possible lose ends??)The
fact that he needed many inside contacts in both CBI and FBI all over
the series suggests that he wasn't a CBI or FBI member himself.
So
the strong law enforcement connection was always there. All this
builds up for a regular cop profile. Excluding non-cops, law
enforcement higher ups, CBI and FBI regulars.. this leaves us Haffner
and Mcallister. Haffner was never a regular cop.. more like a
security tech expert but still he could be RJ. Nevertheless, some
episodes, like Red-John's footsteps for example, give me the feeling
that RJ is a country-side man, and a bit older than Haffner.
Now
the Visualize part. I agree with everyone, Red Barn clue and
connection to Stiles weren't explained and that's disappointing.
Kristrina Frye.. same issue. However, Red Barn clue works as a age
limiter, kinda excluding Stiles (Visualize "leader"
himself) and most likely excluding Partridge (too young)

"He
is mar(c)" He is many? (Blake's Association) He is Macallister?
He his Marshall? All work.. It's still disappointing that Bruno
figured his final RJ only after disposing that clue. (maybe it fits
all his previous possible RJs or the best RJ candidate by the time he
showed that clue)

William Blake's Poem: It asks a question
about creation (who CREATED the Tyger?)
It follows another
question asked by RJ tp Patrick "Do you know who i am?"
The
Tyger here is no more no less than Blake's association. "Do you
know who i am?" "Do you know who created the tyger?".
It's just RJ bragging again about this corrupt law enforcement
association he CREATED. Patrick doesn't understand at that point given that he
doesn't know anything about it.



“He has been here from the very
beggining” Mcallister check.



About people saying “that dumb
scheriff that lost at rock paper scissors could never be RJ”. It's
just an act... I believe that if you say this you are kinda losing
the essence of who RJ is. He doesn't want the spot light for himself
(like a Stiles or a Bertram) . He likes to lay in the shadows, which
works good for the “mithology” built around him.



About beautiful women like Lorelei
falling for that “old man”. Well.. there are things far more
interesting than looks for women like her I guess.. (power? maybe
hyponsis.. who knows. Sadly not much explanation is given)



How did he find about the list? Well,
how did Jane deduce the list himself? With all these resources at
hand couldn't he perform a elimination process at least as good as
the one as Jane performed just with his memory work and some limited
research resources?



I believe that everything would work
out better if there was no list at all. Finding about “blake's
association” first and then reaching RJ could work out better. The "poem" about RJ being it's creator would work as the main clue, instead of the "handshake" clue. But
it would also take longer. And, as some mentioned here, they were
kinda forced to rush the ending of the RJ arc.














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It was a shame and a disappointment that the revealed identity was the Sheriff. Some points were intentionally (i think) left unanswered, like the Sheriff-RJ has also mentioned. The only good parts of this RJ finale was the pigeon trick, the recurring insulting manner of Jane, bare-hand strangle and, for me, the most importantly, the quotation of RJ that says: "c'ause I am a real psychic!"...

This little detail was far too god for me for such a lousy so-called finale of RJ; so here i think how the real story goes:

This trigger quotation of RJ made me believe that this RJ candidate was also a puppet under hypnosis of the real RJ, just like the one in the season 3 finale as I remember. I think, the real RJ makes Jane a serial killer step by step, as he killed people with gun twice (one for puppet RJ, one for saving Lisbon from an associate of RJ in season finale), with bare hands, by burying, with bomb (as a setup of Sheriff), so he wants Jane to taste all kinds of murdering one by one and make him a killer up to a point that Jane can't claim anything about his innocence anymore. 

Real RJ? Maybe it will reveal himself as a Season finale of 6; because the story was about PJ-RJ rivalry, and the show must find something really good to keep up for at least another season, or even for a season finale.

The "I am a real psychic" irritation must mean something. I am sorry that I am not satisfied with what we had been given, but again, I am going with Minelli again. The list is merely alive now; only Reede Smith is still living; so, if we hear any more of RJ, I will say that "another puppet bastard" was used again.

Tell me one thing: why did RJ killed those 9 women at first place? He said "I will start killing again, much more this time" via Lorelei Martins; his counted murders are less than the first 9 women; we also couldn't learn the fundamental behind of being a serial 'women' killer (male victims are only a necessity) and a Blake Society leader at the same time. 

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What is B.Heller email/Facebook...?
I want to send him the list of all the feedbacks, collected last week, about this e%#%^

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Please, i want to know your thoughts about something. That scene at Jane's house, we could hear someone screaming "Wait! No!" and then a "Shot". WHAT THE HELL happened at Jane's house? 

For what i could understand, or that was the concussion bomb that knocked everybody out, or Heller did another shit job not explaining who was shoted and why. Ok, McAllister put the frozen body at the scene after Jane and the other suspects were unconcious, and then leave the scene with that black car, that im just wondering, WHERE THE HELL he got that car?? If it was really him, of course. 

I know there is not really an answer to that, since Heller didnt explain, but what do you think? 

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