Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I know dissapointment spreads through out and you feel this is the end and I'm sorry to say I feel the same way.

But don't you think this would have been a better script:

Jane is on his way to the church to meet bertram, but Jane pays a young boy to go in there in a hood and tell them that Jane sent him and he was going to pass on the message.

A Bertram is furious is orders Oscar to shoot him, but just as Oscar raises his gone he gets shot in the heart and then bertram right after… both collapse and are dead.

All we then see is a random man walk out of the front of the church but standing in the shadows and we can't see his face. Then he says in red johns famous soft and mellow creepy voice "Patrick come out, the games over and I won" 

But out of no where someone grabs RJ from behind and then all we hear is Janes voice and he says "Do you know who I am" with a gun pointed to RJ'S head. (RJ did this to Jane and Jane is doing it back to him)

He then pulls RJ out and we see Mcallister looking helpless and at the same time almost delusional and laughing almost mad. Then Jane says "Your work is that of a demented sexually perverted psychopath , but I knew this day would come and it has, so say your last words and repent" 

RJ says NO PLEASE YOUR NOT LIKE ME.

Jane says "NOW YOU BET FOR MERCY AFTER ALL YOUVE DONE. 

and he shoots RJ in both legs and he collapses then jane takes a knife out of RJ'S OWN POCKET and says "The list was simple for you to get, because I wanted you to have it, because you see I was always a step ahead of you because you see once you got hold of the list you knew I was getting close because you were on the list and you would want to kill me before I got to you and I loured you in"


Jane says I spent my whole life making mistakes but I'm sure this one is for the greater good and he stabs RJ.

They then unveil some more things in coming episodes. PLEASE AGREE IF YOU LIKED IT AND THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER THAN THE REAL ONE AND HIT THE RED IF YOU THINK ITS NOT, COMMENT WITH OPINIONS. THANKS 


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What about the lady in the church that tried to stab Jane?  We see her leaving the cemetery by Lisbon, Cho, Rigsby, and Van Pelt.  She has to mean something...

This makes me wonder if this is truly over?  Something has to happen to the CBI team where I see Jane coming back. 


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Really really really bad screen writing Heller!! Xander Berkeley is an amazing actor and he did a good job during the circumstances and Simon Baker as well..

I have during the years been a very loyal fan, I have always loved the scripts, twists and developments in the series. I especially find the fake RJ reveal Timothy Carter amazing - it was brilliant writing!! Very very brilliant - top class..

But this season my expectations were high - we all thought we were to watch the same quality as the previous seasons - but nooo way.. I cant stop being provoked - its the worst screen writing in tv history, even an amateur could have done a better job.

I sincerely hope what we have seen so far this season is a biiiig twist to piss us off - cause they did a pretty damn good job making us feel betrayed.

How is it possible for such good screenwriters to lose their talent suddently, and humiliating themselves like that?? They already payed the cast so why make it soooo hurrible?? Maybe the show should just have ended with Carter as being Red John = satisfied fans!!



Sorry my bad english, i am danish..





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So, when Bruno Heller once said that we would see a glimpse of the real Red John at "Strawberries and Cream", i can only guess he was lying? Because even him didnt know who was Red John back there ¬¬'   

So many unanswered questions, no RJ background story, i can only GUESS Partridge was killed because RJ didnt want the information about the frozen body with anyone else but him. What the hell happened in Jane's house... i give up! Heller did fuc$%¨& up this time. 

At lease Xander Berkeley is an amazing actor, great Red John, with no background and a shit script :/

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Im so disappointed with how it ended, i was expecting so much more, I really though the Blake Association would be the next big bad guy Jane had to chase down but that storyline dies with Red John, I dont understand why tell us Bob Kirkland had a brother if it had nothing to do with the actually story,

If the next episode is rubbish i will never watch another.

Make or Break for me Bruno! 

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Ok so obviously the final episode was a complete let down for the majority. 

People are disappointed who RJ turned out to be, people are disappointed in how RJ was portrayed (a bit clumsy & cowardly). As was I.

However the most disappointing aspect for me is the complete lack of explanations to so many things. I was hoping for an episode of flash backs and clarity, where all PJ/RJ's tricks & moves that led up to the finale would be revealed in some fascinating way which would have me thinking "Ah, now I see...!". Oh and the sloppiness in how many times the identity was leaked before the episode - mainly the promo clearly showing RJ as McAllister & killing any big reveal is pure idiocy really.

I can take RJ being whoever, I can take him turning out to be a coward. But at least give us the explanations to what happened in the build up, how did RJ get the list of 7? How did he create the blake association? How did he set up PJ house/what happened in the house? How do all the RJ clues add up to fit McAllister? Where's the visualize link to McAllister? What's RJ background story? How & when did PJ figure out its McAllister? How did he get a pigeon into the church? Who was that random woman who attacked him?

I'm sure there are many other questions as posted by others too.

If there is an episode that comes up soon explaining the whole RJ storyline & giving the arc some sort of closure then I will STILL be happy with that. If this does turn out to be the last we hear of RJ, with no clarifications on what the hell happened, then I will be utterly disappointed - it will just feel like all the build up, the clues, the mysteries, have been dumped & left unexplained because the writers can't be bothered/never bothered to think up a story that actually made sense so they decided to completely ignore making sense & just decided to finish the storyline and move on ASAP.

So in summary I'm disappointed in how the episode gave no clarifications into any of the main storyline questions, but all I'm asking for is that these questions are answered at SOME POINT in some way & aren't just completely ignored, an episode to clear up the RJ mystery then I will be happy & the show can move on with some dignity.

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