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Theory #15971 • By Stoopkid
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Biggest clue red john is alive and well:

The girl that with her dying moments showed patrick the tattoo her killer had. 3 dots insinuating tiger tiger .
Ok, how on earth did she see the tattoo? No way her killer was wearing a tank top! She must of seen it before ? Maybe on an intimate level or at the gym . Macalister could of been with her intimately since he was a "deranged sex freak ". But i dont buy that.
I dont know what this means but maybe she was a rj follower . Or with visualize. I have no idea why she would lead patrick astray but how the hell did she see the tattoo of her assailant ?

****1. Maybe red john sent a person purposively showing a fake tt tattoo. Thus leading jane to take out macalister and the rest.
Maybe macalister was red john in a way. He could of assumed the role of rj with partridge in copycat fashion to mess with jane and other cops . Maybe the real red john like partridge said "hasnt killed in years"
Maybe hes waiting . Sitting back as patrick becomes a psycho killer lol
I really hope there is more . This show always has a rj finale or start in the first half and ends with another rj story later on .

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I refuse to accept that ths was the end of RJ story.
BH said that he presented RJ like that because serial killers are not that interesting.....
Then why he dedicated 6years of his life revolving around one??
And he is always very thorough. So why would he leave the most important dark figure, Patrick"s nemesis" story go
Unexplained??
And let's talk about the sheriff. He never once admitted he"s RJ now,did he?
Just BA" s head.
Never admitted that he killed Patrick"s family. He just said that it was Patrick"s fault they are dead.
And I don't thnk he said he is a psychic, the said he has a psychic.
And not a shred of explanation as why he did what he did. Why is that?
And cried like a baby, begged for his life? Is that the RJ BH really wants
people to remember?.....why??
Maybe I live in a pink cloud, but I truly believe that somehow it just ain't over...
Or maybe Im just delluting myself....

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That woman enters the church already armed. Why the sheriff asks for help saying "he wants to kill me please help"? At this point, it seems obvious that there is someone else behind! Pure logic, there's no doubt about this.

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To elaborate on my recent theory ... http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/15796

I will first say that there are sentiments & statements from Bruno that quite clearly express Red John being dead and how the fact that Red John was slightly disappointing (even to Patrick) was by design because he says serial killers really aren't that interesting. Those sentiments and statements are hard to fight off I will be honest but there is nothing that says a writer cannot lie (the writers of Lost did). I also believe that Bruno felt very compelled to provide the audience with closure and if he was in fact still playing us he would have to make it extremely believable.

There is one thing in particular that is bugging me, keeps me theorizing and seriously considering the false nature of Red John's death ...

The voice ... I will use a "fake" conversation between myself and Bruno to convey my points ... anything underlined is an actual quote from Bruno ... and obviously I mean no disrespect to Bruno ...

Me: Bruno, how long have you known the identity of Red John?
Bruno: I’m not sure. It kind of just emerged over the last couple years. There was always three or four possibilities. And it just happened, really. It seemed like the natural correct choice.
Me: At what point did Xander Berkley know he was to play Red John?
Bruno: At the very last moment and he was thrilled
Me: So he didn't know over 3 and a half years ago during Season 2 when he spoke to Patrick face to face in Episode 23 "Red SKy in the Morning?
Bruno: What?
Me: Nothing, let's move on ...
Me: Is it possible that you could be confusing "the last couple years" with about 4 years?
Bruno: I suppose, why do you ask?
Me: Was that Xander Berkley's real voice when he said "it's totally fair, games over I won"
Bruno: Yes, yes it was.
Me: That voice appeared about 4 years ago
Bruno: Is that a question?
Me: No I guess it isn't
Bruno: What are you saying?
Me: That you and Xander Berkley knew a long time ago that he was going to be Red John. Why would you lie about that?
Bruno: Ok it wasn't really his voice, he was lip sinking
Me: So who does the Red John voice?
Bruno: That's classified 
Me: Classified? Bruno, Red John is dead. I just want to know who the actor is. I'm simply curious
Bruno: This interview is over
Me: Bruno! Please!
Bruno: Ok, we used __________'s voice because we didn't know who Red John was going to be. Once we decided we figured everyone would just assume is was his voice or we would lip sink to make it look real
Me: That doesn't make a whole lot of sense Bruno
Bruno: You don't make sense
Me: That's because you have twisted my mind into an oblivion with this show!
Bruno: Thank you

The next thing that is bugging me is a little more of a stretch and it's the very last scene from the "Red John" episode. When writers have plans that they hide from the audience and the audience can only theorize about they have to be ambiguous about the clues and leads they give as to not give away anything but none the less they have to be direct enough for us to look back and say "ah ha! that makes sense"

In the last scene there is very peaceful yet mysterious music playing and the camera scans away from Patrick and over to people in the park.

Mother daughter - nice music

Older couple - still music

Music comes to climax with a subtle but long and off sounding violin note and then ...

Very deliberate creepy guy standing very confidently with his hands behind his back watching a child, his daughter perhaps ...

I understand the whole "life goes on" scene that writers use the fade out into credits but that scene is a bit too deliberate and weird (especially with that off violin note). Please tell me what sense it makes to have a musical conclusion with very redemptive, peaceful, bittersweet, final yet mysterious music that moves into a climactic creepy tone while viewing inconsequential strangers. 

Maybe I am giving the writers too much credit and they are just doing weird things that don't make sense or they lost there magic but they seemed quite capable for 5 + seasons. I know that if Red John is not dead the writers and Bruno would have to go to extraordinary lengths to make it realistic. Perhaps even to lie and get agitated about further Red John talk because of course "Red John is dead we are past that point". If they did reveal that Red John is not dead at some poiny they would not be able to do it for a little while and when they did the audience would have no more concern for closure or "Red John fatigue" they would just be excited and it would magnificently conclude.

I can accept the fact that Red John is dead because I love the show and I love Patrick's adventures but it is out of respect for the writers that I cannot believe it.

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No theories or thoughts or anything in this post, just trying to gauge the feelings of my fellow visitors of this website.

Hit green if you would be excited if the next episode ends with Patrick walking into an RJ murder scene and finding a bloody smiley face.

Hit red if you would not like this because you feel its lazy with it being so similar to T-Carter.  Any other reason you wouldn't like it hit red and comment

Thanks!

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I am thoroughly disappointed, just like many of you, at the Red John episode.
However, just think about this. The whole series is based on mind games and tricks so could the RJ 'reveal' not be the biggest mind game of the whole show?

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so bertram and oscar got shot once and instantly died, but sheriff picks himself up from a severe wound and runs a marathon...

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