Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #15996 • By pipsqueek9
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The dove in the jacket was great it was in the pack lining as the gun witch the seeds in his inner picket to lure the bird witch it would also a dove is very quiet very quiet get the dove out easy to get the gun also in the lining in his jacket open to his back see its not a pocket its the opening of the jacket the suit jacket ripped open is perfect.

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Seriously, how do you find a gun and not a pigeon when you frisk someone?

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I have been said this many of unlikely of this theory but I still will always never change my mind of grace being the partner of Red John. As you know her job when she did get there what she does and how close she is to Lisbon to know how to get the names she did for John who ever he may still be even though we now think he is dead. I have said more to this as of the drawings being of her or her drawings. I can not see it being rigsby I but I do know they do sleep together so she doesn't have the dots and am sure who ever Red John is has no dots but mainly its cause its unlikely the more unlikely you get on something like my comments is the more plausible something is. Its a tv series has to shock you has to have something nothing other then this would do it. If Grace is not a part of it as of some sort of partnership or relationship or family to this or anything of this the show is to plausible. By the way ever see people get married in a police division or even make it ok. so this will always be my theory and its mine cause its not likely and I am glad more and more say its not likely.

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Red John is finished with now despite my unhappiness with lack of answers.

The only way they can entertain going back to it, will be if the ratings slump. (which they will) It is possible they might consider if for their last couple of episodes ever.

The only thing that they can do in this scenario is make PJ RJ. Obviously inknowingly to PJ I have wanted this since day 1.

Right now most of you will stop reading this and say you cant do that blah blah blah. the show is ruined anyway, so just stop and listen for a minute.

They have always subtly implied that PJ is RJ. Regardless whether you hate this. It is true

It is the only way to answer the unanswered questions that everyone has right now. introduce flashbacks etc and link it all together.

I would much rather see this, then a complete change in direction of the show. the new preview looks shit PJ being RJ would be a change in direction anyway.

There have been clues this season which could be capitalised on

firstly McAlister told Jayne he was at his disposal.
this RJ reveal is not too dissimilar to the previous one, ie they were both playing the part of RJ because they were told to by the real RJ ie PJ

McAllisters last words, were I will tell you how I got the list. it could be something as simple as you told me, you are red john. but he didn't get the chance. it could also explain why he was so terrified

PJ murder count is now 3

All the suspects seem scared of PJ. This season for eg Partridge, Styles etc. Styles in the embassy understood that PJ was serious about inflicting pain if he didn't get what he wanted.

Styles reaction when PJ says one of you 5 is RJ. If he knew RJ which has always been implied why would he seem to find it so strange plus styles seemed genuinely interested in helping Patrick

when Bertram said I don't have to speak to you in that silly voice now do I. what if PJ aka the association had Bertram be RJ voice to PJ on the phone. Bertram completed this because its what he got told to do.

Who else would have the ability to create in effect 1000s of followers

I mean after 5 years why would the REAL RED JOHN just let PJ take him to a house going into the unknown and then turn up in a church (again PJ choice). he would just kill him. it really doesn't make any sense, Or he could have just killed Bertram????? Or tell Bertram he had to pretend to be RJ. Or if your Bertram why not just disappear. The blake association cant help you any longer.

This idea could be brilliantly explained by someone better then me with a bit of time and thought and willingness to tie up loose ends

The last scene in the show is having PJ draw the smiley then show ends.
Fantastic last scene

Out of interest, can someone leave me a comment whereby they can say PJ being RJ is impossible with an example.that cannot be overcome knowing what we know now Ie. PJ Cannot be RJ as he cannot be in two places at the same time - he couldn't have worn the mask with the copy cat killers, with the first tiger tiger poem. this could be easily explained eg McAllister was behind the mask helping Patrick as blake association had asked for him to come to watch his back


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Unfortunately heller has FUCKED the lot of us over. The reason for ending the red John saga so soon in the series is to give himself enough time to write a story that will warrant another series. This is absolute bullshit. He now has 10 plus episodes to leave another cliffhanger that will see CBS renew the show. I don't think there will be a series 7, least I fucking hope not. No disrespect to xander, or Simon for that matter. I just feel let down by that dollar grabbing bastard Bruno. So many possible stories, so many brilliant acting throughout, yet the finale is enough to make Brian from family seem more of a tragic death.

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So now what? Even if it would be the ending of RJ, what will those 10 episodes left be about? Jane doing everything he didnt do fot the past six years?....in this episode we see Jane with his new haircut, in the episode behind we see him dancing with some chic...Whats the point of all of it? There is no more CBI so that means no more crimes to solve and apparently no more RJ.....what will this show be about now?...Jane taking down the tigers? Hope not!....Red John and PJ ARE this show and they cant run away from it. The second RJ dies the show is over and thats how it should be but it isnt for some "mysterious" reason .The only ending of this show should be after RJ is dead....ok,maybe just two episodes behind the Red John episode just to make a fine ending and thats it


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red john end is not logical at all ... there's alot of question  :
1- why red john didn't kill lisbon
2- red john could have killed jane in any time he wants but why he didn't
3- how could red john be that stupid and get closer to jane then got shot
4- lorelei said red john and jane are very similar but as we have seen jane is way smarter than red john and that's not logical because red john should be as smart as jane
5- why red john hired only one gun man .. if he hired 2 or more jane won't be able to do it
6- why red jonh took too long to kill kira tensley if he used a knife she would be dead is seconds
7- at last i want to say something ... Am I the only one who thinks bruno doesn't know how red john knew about the suspects list ?

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