Who is Red John?

Share your own theory and rate other people’s

List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

LATEST THEORIES

Ahhhh... how the hell was Jane caught with a gun in his jacket before entering the church, but the pigeon was not found. And if it wasn't in his jacket and left in the church, how the hell was it smart enough to sit there quietly until it was needed. A pigeon...really?

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

Are there any forums where the merits of the Mentalists are debated? It seems like we are the small but vocal minority? From what I have gathered around the net many fans are really happy with the Red John reveal and are more than willing to move on. It is akin to to 911 and all the loose ends but people just don;t care. So any sites where there is a heated debate going on?

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

That episode was not even close to good. It's just to get everyone off of Red John's tail. He is alive and well and gloating. I'm still not convinced Theresa has something to do with it. And considering the play on "red" words and props in the scenes..... Always thought it is interesting Van Pelt is a red head... Hmmmmmis that an in your face clue. Like she was the long lost sister jane unknowingly left behind.
If we can come up with more interesting story lines... Than so can Heller...... There has to be much more to this

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

New story lines and enemies:
Styles wanted to resurrect after his death for his church . Lisbon eluded to him being alive ;)
The fbi (tigertiger) wanted to lock up styles for a case from 30 years ago!
Rigsby is involved in the fbi! Thats why he kisses there ass. Thats why he defies his team and helps abbott.
Van pelt and rigsby are with styles somehow .
New thoughts finally !

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

It's strange how Mcallister never actually said he IS Red John. Watching the episode again, how could the writers not get Mcallister to say he's Red John? There was no reason to beat around the bush!!! And now Heller says "Red John is dead. We're past that," yet how are we 100% sure Mcallister was even Red John? Of course, yes, people will say that it was implied but how can you be so sure? 

Apparently it is 'delusional' to continue similar theories like this, so I'll change it up a bit. Heller says "Red John is dead," now I'm not going to agree with that mealymouthed writer regularly, but for the sake of this theory, let's speculate he's is speaking truth. 

So Red John is dead; what if Mcallister wasn't Red John and actually just the leader of the empire he talked about - Blake Association. Who is the last person to die by Patrick Jane in a similar way, as in PJ believed he was Red John - Timothy Carter. And, reading this now, you've no doubt seen that honestly great episode 'Strawberries and Cream'. I really liked that episode, very good. What if Timothy Carter was actually the Red John, and ever since, Red John murders that have happened were conducted by Red John associates, BA members and corrupt cops? This way, not only has PJ killed the real RJ (Timothy Carter, in a good ending) but he has dismantled BA by killing their leader. Sure, Heller probably didn't do this, but just imagine.

Then in this way, we can agree the ending of Red John was actually a good episode, because indeed, Strawberries and Cream was a very good episode. Love the last scene, done perfectly. By the way this makes me think how Heller could write something so good like Strawberries and Cream, yet write such a disappointing rap-up like Mcallisters end. I mean there must of been other ways to make it epic like Timothy Carters death? Oh well.

Besides, its sort of, in a weird and strange way, makes sense. Either the show has really bad continuity with clues (for example like every clue in the last 5 seasons didn't mean shit in the final RJ episode), or maybe the clues were all not real RJ clues, maybe just because they were done by BA members and aren't related.

I somehow speculate in the next few episodes, the writers would have to tie in Timothy Carter and Mcallister, which overall would be quite unlikely. However, just an interesting thing I thought of the other day and in the end, I really hope there is flashbacks in the next few episodes, maybe link together the past to make things more clear. And I hope Brett Partridge isn't dead... although thats another debate in itself. 

I remember some theories on here about how Stiles isn't dead, and how he knows more than Red John ever did (from an episode in S3 or S4?). Interesting how Visualize meant so much to the story yet now is like completely irrelevant. 

Comment if you want.

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6-LG5VpGk------> Red John would flip out if he had to watch this.

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely

I bet all the people that are threatening bruno hellers life are the same fake fans that complained that red jobn dragged out too long . You forced hellers hand than when you get what u want you say it sucks?! Red john was able to be one step ahead because he ran an-underground society of killers rapist and molesters . Timothy carter was able to keep a girl in his secret room from the help of red john. What more do u want ? Jane didnt let him have the satisfaction of gloating , and thats awesome '
Red john cried like a bitch and was terrified and buried in guilt as he died . Thats great. Janes family was asleep. Ref john was awake and tormented by pidgins.

Argue on this theory or rate it.
plausible
unlikely
Follow us on