Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I really hope that this isn't the end of RJ!I can live with McAllister being RJ - but I think Brett Stiles or Bret Partridge would be so much more of a better fit!Last weeks episode was just so disappointing. I wanted more flashbacks etc.Also, something that has been bothering me - what does 'roll tide' mean?

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Hi all!

OK. The last scene.
After Jane disappears from camera, we can see a man (who some people think its Partridge) and a girl on a fun slide.

Now, the slide is DINOSAUR shaped.
Earlier, Jane was talking to lisbon that Birds are like MINI-DINOSAURS... so there is metaphor that the man beside the slide is a man who loves birds (pigeons), just like...

so I think to things:
At this slide it was red john.
He has a daughter.

Cheers!

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I don't care that writing out these theories has become ridiculous because the probability that Heller would ever risk losing his audience by airing such a terrible episode is so low.

I just noticed that during the clip of Jane meeting Kim Swallow, she is reading Daughter of Time.  That book involves a researcher deciding that Richard III (II?) is not the terrible murderer that everyone thought he was.  He decides that history believes Richard to be such a terrible guy because the Tudors framed him.

Now for anyone left on this theory board, this suggests that McAllister is not RJ and that he was actually framed by Jane or RJ.

Is it possible for the writers to accidentally fill the episodes with clues that suggest that first the list was fake and second that RJ is not dead?  Are they just having fun screwing with us?  Or is there a purpose to everything they've done?

The list of names in Jane's notebook in Black Cherry that Lisbon never sees - suggested that Jane had a plan and secrets kept from both the audience and Lisbon which is actually what we've come to expect from him.

The show suddenly losing it's value for life by killing off Haffner and Stiles without showing any fallout and then Jane providing an explanation for how someone could fake their death in an explosion.

The inclusion of a fake list for Kirkland - could be brilliant foreshadowing or the writers screwing with us.

Heller's brilliant season finales in the past don't add up with the RJ episode we just watched.

Jane's lack of a brilliant scheme, RJ's dramatic change in MO, the lack of explanations, etc.

On one hand, everything points to the show crashing, dying, and turning into a soap opera.  It's so incredibly unlikely that Heller would con us for eight episodes and then air a ridiculous RJ episode and risk losing a large chunk of his audience.  But the other hand seems just as unlikely because when Heller has been so brilliant in the past, why would he ever write an episode like Red John.  An episode that got leaked, that everyone thought was fake, that left everyone angry and with no explanations and far too many inconsistencies.  To me this seems so unlikely that it becomes a balancing act of which side is more unlikely.  Heller coning us or Heller screwing us.  

If Heller did really get bored then why didn't the other writers object, the actors, the filmers, the CBS, etc?  Is it actually possible to write such a terrible episode without trying?  The Red John episode had so much potential with how RJ was caught, what Jane and RJ talked about, Lisbon's role in the meeting and her confrontation with RJ, RJ's last murders, RJ's backstory, etc.  RJ is not just a serial killer, he's the darkness in Jane.  RJ is supposed to be Jane's opposite mirror image.  His characterization is supposed to characterize Jane.  McAllister was a flat RJ and that reveal made Jane more one-dimensional.  The RJ episodes have been loved because we see more of Jane's inner self.  Now we're left to wonder why Jane bothered to chase RJ and why did it take him so long to catch RJ?  

I could draw a list out of the parallels between Jane and RJ.  I could map out the RJ characterization throughout the seasons.  I've written out theories that incorporate every clue we've been given.  I've analyzed the color symbolism and literary devices used in the show.  All of that would suggest that Jane's con hasn't been revealed yet and RJ is still alive and not McAllister.

Then you look at safe tv advertising/promotion and the recent statements Heller has made and everything looks like he just got bored and decided to wrap up the storyline as quickly as possible.

And that leaves me unable to decide if I should keep hoping or give up.  If it is still part of a con, then it might be revealed tonight with a major hint that Jane is up to something.  Most people assume that the RJ storyline is over so the hint can be more obvious because most people will ignore it.  And if the popular suspects start returning in these next few episodes . . . if we see Walter Mashburn in the next five episodes . . . 

It's likely that my slight hopes are wrong but hopefully tonight's episode will suggest one way or another whether I should keep hoping.

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there will either be no more partridge theories after tonight's episode or a billion partridge theories




I expect Bad Gateway to make his appearance

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Something bogues me here. During the promo of 6x07 we could see a scene where rygsby and Cho are facing a wall full of red john blood Drawings.
But I didn't really see that happened.
Is it me or I completely forgot the scene ?

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With just over 14 hours to go to the episode, I'd just like to say, I saw right through Bruno Heller's trick.

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All those years Heller has been smart but not this year.This year he was fucked up.He liked to end this RedJohn saga as fast as possible and gave us this SHIT.He messed up things.we fans thought that he is misleading us and there may be some REAL TWIST but now i think that`s not gonna happen.So fans let us enjoy this new Jane forgetting the EPIC(you know what i mean) "RED JOHN" episode..



                                           __/\__ BRUNO HELLER.

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