Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Right this is not a theory, just something I wanted to share with you guys.

Even though Xander Berkeley is known as an excellent actor, the way Red John was performed is waaaay under everyone's expectations. (it is quite generally accepted that episode 8 was... you know, crap) Just look at some other villains of the show and the way their actor portrayed them.



1. Bob Kirkland

Although not really a villain, that character was awesome! Kevin Corrigan is just a perfect actor. I had seen him in Californication before, but his Kirkland performance was freaking brilliant, he could have been a perfect Red John.


2. Tommy Volker

You know an actor does a good job when his character looks so realistically sadistic and truly evil that you just wanna punch them in the face. Volker was one of those, he was really well portrayed and entertaining, in short an excellent performance.


3. Brett Stiles

Although not really a villain either, he has been a major character in The Mentalist since season 1 (correst me if I'm wrong). Now there's something I don't understand about Bruno Heller. Stiles was the head of a worldwide cult, with thousands of followers who could have died for him, he was rich, powerful, had the power to read through people, etc. He clearly knew what Red John was up to. Now I'm completely alright with the fact he's not RJ, but hello Heller, have gone insane? One of the most important and intersting characters of the show, and you just get rid of him with no explanation other than "he was killed in the explosion" ?? What is wrong with you? I've arleady expressed how disappointed I was in seeing all the best characters being successively killed off with no reason.


4. Partridge.

Right, he's not RJ, and that's fine. I wasn't a Partridge fan, but I must admit I thought for a while he was RJ. Now he's not, fine, he was just a red herring, fine, he was killed by McAllister to keep silence about his connections with him ("anyone who can identify RJ ends up dead"). But keep in mind he was very well portrayed too, the actor did a good job. That creepy thing about him was just brilliant. 


5. Erica Flynn

Remember her? She killed her husband, tried to seduce Jane, was very clever and managed to manipulate people into helping her. She eventually escaped and is still in the wind. Every one must have forgotten about her, just like Heller and that's fine, but she was a good character, in my opinion better portrayed and developped than the actual RJ.


6. Any other villain I forgot to talk about and whose performance was way better than McAllister's. There are loads, but these five are the main ones I can think of right now. 


Despite all those excellent characters, Bruno Heller chose to get rid of them and to come up with shitty ones for the ultimate episode. McAllister, Abbott, Kim, Cordero, Smith, some lady with a knife? You gotta be kidding me.



What are your thoughts about this? All this just to say that McAllister was under-developped, irrelevant to all the RJ clues from season 1 to 5, and simply extremely disappointing. 

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There's no way Stiles and Haffner just die off screen and are never mentioned agian.  They have to show what happened at Jane's house when the camera cuts away before the explosion    that's where the Jane/Mentalist twist is             McAllister is not Red John just another Timothy Carter  and Timothy Carter was a more convincing Red John than McAllister   there has to be more proof than a one time character just showing up and saying they are RJ     this New Beginning is just a huge misdirection     what's the logic?  it's not like RJ dominated the show  one or two RJ episodes and the finale       how is the RJ story ruining the show       without the RJ storyline The Mentalist is just another murder procedural          jane's life after RJ's death is a DVD bonus featurette or a bunch of mini webisodes    not the last season and a half (if there is a season 7)    untill the end of the season I still believe Red John is still alive     the list and the explosion is just RJ playing with Jane         why let him live after the explosion if you are just gonna kill him the next day   RJ is just toying with Jane        

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Hello mates, i'm french so i'd better begin this by a hudge SORRRRY for the upcomming english :D
Well it is Xmas hollidays so i'm using it to catch up the lastest episodes.
I was pretty sure dat kirkland was Red John. How disappointed i was when i saw the 8th episode. For god's sake, MacAllister can't be the red john, dat dude is a fagg compary to RJ. Can't be Stiles, not the RJ style.
I think BH is foolin us, we all have miss something. What PJ is doing in the series, BH is doing it to us for sure.
Anyway, i really don't understand why ppl think dat RIGSBY is RJ, it doesn't make any sense to me.
RJ, in my opinion, must be at least older than PJ. I don't know why, its my feelings.
Maybe the real answer has been given. Watching everything from the beginning with all the tips might be a good way to be sharpest than ever now we know a lot more.

XXX

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The Red John storyline was brought up in the pilot.  Every season finale of the first 5 seasons had Red John as part of the plot for that episode.  Until 6X09, every single episode had red or a shade of red in the title.  All the seasons have gone over 20 episodes.  Why did the Red John saga end 8 episodes into a season?  I made a list of possible reasons why they did this.  Some are based on the idea RJ is dead, and some are based on the idea that RJ is alive (and most likely not mcallister).

Red John is dead arguments
1) CBS wanted the RJ storyline to be over with and they wanted to try to get new fans with this new beginning thing.
2) Killing RJ was not the only climax they were planning on.  The other being Jane and Lisbon getting romantically involved.
3) They wanted to "explore" Jane's life after RJ.

Red John is alive arguments
4) The season 6 finale will be RJ related
5) RJ manipulated Patrick into becoming a serial killer as well
6) They wanted the fans to forget about RJ so they could bring him back
7) Jane is in a coma or we are watching someone's dream.

Tell me which ones you agree or disagree with.  Obviously, it could be combinations of these reasons or other ones I didn't think of.

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Theory #16896 • By Stoopkid
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So last night i watched "red johns friends".
Besides rigsby being adament that cbi helps jane thus helping red john by getting jared wrenfrow out of prison so rj could kill him, i literally stared at "he is mar" for an hour.

I concluded that the girl prostitute wrote the message as she died. Unles rj wrote it.
It hit me that she most likely doesnt speak english and that the "h" could of very well been two L's in spanish.

Has anyone out there looked at it that way?
I searched long and hard for spanish words that resemble lleisma but found nothing ...
Anybody have any ideas?

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Tiger, TigerI speak French and I do not understand English, so I have to translate your téhories by Google Translate. Unfortunately, when you are misspellings and/or grammatical errors, the site does not quite capture what you write. As the site in French, there is not much téhories so I just see your téhories here. Can you try to make an effort so that I can understand what you say?

Thank you

A Belgian fan of the series

PS: I think Red John is not Thomas McAllister

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Theory #16894 • By PelterSkelter
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Trivia -
The character 'Wayne Rigsby' was initially named 'Wayne Gilzean'.
gilzean meaning 'Servant Of St John'.

But what does it all mean?!

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