Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I have a lot to say about tonights episode but I am going to stick to one very subtle thing i have noticed.

*Does Jane have Abbot under hypnosis ? Sounds crazy and pointless i know but I have seen on more than one occasion patrick giving Abbot that pat on the arm like he does to people he is manipulating.
Have you noticed it as well?

-The first time was when Abbot comes out the woodwork and shuts down CBI. I have said all along that Patrick wanted Cbi shutdown. But when they first meet Patrick does the same arm pat to Abbot and it struck me as odd the first time i saw it. I need to go back and see if he did it more other than tonight and the first meeting

--It is very odd that Patrick went from being the Fbis most hated/wanted man to the BOSS! Jane is literally calling all the shots and Abbot has not butt heads with him at all.
--Why? The show tells us Abbot gave into Jane demands because jane MAY have hidden names of BA members.
Abbot says he caught them all but still falls for Jane's trick. This is Abbot, the same guy who laughed at Jane's paper demands and SUDDENLY HANDS OVER THE KEYS TO THE FBI TO PATRICK FOR HAVING MAYBE NAMES THAT PATRICK HAS NOT EVEN DISCUSSED WITH HIM YET??!?!?!? You would think the second Patrick left prison they would have to discuss the other names he had right?

-This show is the king of all misdirection. There are so many mixed signals and the possibilities of truth are endless. The show is going on another break and I think we are done with these little "filler" episodes. Yes they are important but they are just stepping stones to the big things that are about to pop off. You know walking dead has episodes where they just talk then episodes where all bloody fucking hell fire and brimstone errupts. 

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Why wasnt Laroche or Cbi Ron in the bugged phones list????

Anyway i think Haffner is real red john and Stiles is his Superior

Mcallister was hypnotized and was another Timothy Carther 

PD: i think Rigsby and Van Pelt will be killed too (they will leave the show properly, by  being killed by RJ)

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i think fearful symmetry has something to do with a killer hunting his victim.  While trying to kill the hunter ponders many ideas; one is , is the prey going to kill me.  The poem by Blake is a bout a hunter.  Evidence i have is in the reading.  McAllister did say  "I've been a hunter most o'my life".  Tiger, Tiger is a spinoff calling a cat here kitty, kitty, or come out, come out wherever you are.  Childhood games often mimic serious adult situations.  Often these fantasies become repressed, and could create psychosexual lashing out.  Red John supposedly had psychosexual thoughts about people he intended to kill.  One person he reacted to this way was Jane.  In one episode, Red John is mocking or mimicing Jane - by drinking tea, wearing a suit, even sitting like Jane. Its the one where Harker Rosalind calls P. Jane;  The CBI rush over to her place, they find a dead coroner, but they dont find red john.  The police search the whole house for clues, but they find nothing.  Red John is meticulous, which brings him out of his psychosexual fantasy.  Killers often find routine to help them balance psychotic obsessions and socializing.  They ned something constant, because they don't have a constant good rapport with members of society.  Perhaps their best friend could be unaware of their behavior.  Since their behavior lacks any social signification  they seek some routine to create that missing support.  A killer may get friends to kill with him or her, so each other can reaffirm the psotive feelings they have remaining - about themselves.  Killers have real depths not just symbolic depths.  They desire to return to normalcy, which is now a great height.  In the poem by Blake, there is reference to distant depths and skies.  Blake is referring to these thoughts - which Blake is fantasizing about.  Blake focuses on animals by mentioning sheep - which an archetype reference to innocence or following ( lack of leadership) -also dependency on good (luck), because the ability to survive is not adapted to fighting for survival.  The killer/hunter is nearing a merger with the tiger (prey), and trying to succumb to the merging - and still hunt.  Jane is more like Blake's idea of the voice or protagonist in Tiger, Tiger by William Blake.  Simply, Blake was a sane human being with normal values, and Jane is that, a normal person.  Anybody would want to kill the guy who murdered his daughter & wife.  I have always associated that poem (for twenty years now) with a hunter.  Since Mcallister said he had been a hunter most of his life, I have to agree with Bruno Heller.  Red John is McAllister, and he is dead.

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Ever thought that RJ had a higher boss to answer to?  Maybe his boss is coming back and spied on Ardelis.

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Damn!  I hate Heller.

Ardiles is dead but his throat wasn't slashed RJ style.  All of the old CBI team's phones have been bugged along with several other people.  It's either RJ monitoring them or it's the Blake Association but there's not really a clear motive for them.  If it is RJ then he might just be fishing for information because he's worried because Jane's returned to the US.  RJ wouldn't have bugged Jane's phone because that's something that Jane would notice and Jane finding his phone bugged would definitely make Jane suspicious.

I suppose this makes it obvious how Van Pelt and Rigsby will finally leave the show.  This investigation will get them killed.  They've been such great characters that they really do deserve to go out Red John style.  Some mediocre killer or the BA isn't good enough for them.  There was a moment when Rigsby was in the street that I thought the score was reminiscent of the famous RJ  theme music like four taps of a drum but that's probably just me.

Please let this be the return of RJ.  Let Heller turn out to be brilliant . . . or at least let him fix things and give us a good season finale.  It seems like a long wait till March and the next episode.  

Loved Sherlock tonight . . . really hope Moriarty is really back and not just someone else messing with Sherlock.

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Im not going to spoil it for you but...shits about to go down!! they left it hanging high! long wait now :O

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