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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #17240 • By d666q_3
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The craziest f***ing thing I've come across so far.

Last night i discovered something really stunning. I guess everybody has seen the scene where the 3 dotted tatto is discovered at least once, some including myself even multiple times. Jane does a lot of talking and gun pointing. Shortly before the tattoos are revealed Jane as he said the following:

"Kira Tinsley told me something before she passed. She told me that her killer--Red John--has a tattoo. Three dots on his left arm."

While Jane says all this we see his face and we can follow his lips as he says those lines.

After that there is a short sentence added: "On his shoulder"
The camera focuses on Bertram and Smith while these words are said.

Here comes the crazy part:

It is not Simon Bakers voice that says these words!

From what I heard it isn't the voice of any of five suspect sitting there either.

I kind of suspect it's bruno hellers voice, but i am not sure. He usually has a strong British accent, on the other hand he could have worked on that so it doesn't give him away.

If you want to watch the scene here is a youtube clip of it. The part i am talking about starts at 2:15 and the phrase in question is said arround 2:24-2:25.

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I have a feeling Partridge was not really BA.
I think red john was using him by hypnotism. When jane says "you really dont know do you" and Partridge looked honestly clueless. I think jane was eluding to that.
And his arm being burned is dumb. Seems like an obviois silly way to cover up a tattoo.
-The BA did not do that, red john did for misdirection.
-The same misdirection that happend when kira tinsley gave away the tattoo clue. Tinsely was too obvioise and
easily caught for being a red john spy. Unles she had alteris motives like misdirection.
-Sophie miller is more misdirection. Red john seeing janes shrink and having sessions then torturing and chop her head off is a very loaded clue. Red john told jane to look for the nuerosis of the BA suspects in a coded fashion.
Again misdirecting at the least.
-The DVD is janes misdirection. He finally he becoming red john to catch him.

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Thank you to whoever suggested Sherlock, the series!! It's amazing! I love it! Now that there is no Mentalist for a while, everyone should check it out! :)

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 Well.. I belive in Heller when he said "Red John is dead", so.. is it in my head "Maybe I just not understand" So, that is my theory: the serial killer Red John, can't appear anymore. "The Blake Association" was who covered their tracks. Now, without "The Blake Association", he could not be the serial killer named "Red John", because he would be catch. Now, is not more a murder by "Red John", is the guy behind "the mask" playing with Jane. Jane killed Red John, and Red John was always a mask. Now, we'll meet the men behind..
In my head again, Brett Partridge or Ray Haffner.
Jane aways says: Trust your instincts, Lisbon.. (or "Elementary, my dear Watson" Hahaha.. Just a joke ;) but..
Maybe was the writings saying to us..
Trust your instincts..

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I suspect Jane to have planted the bomb himself.

There has been much discussion about how the bomb made it into Janes house. In absence of any better way to make sense of it many have concluded, that the sheriff must have brought it in under his hat.

On the plus side hat offers a certain amount of space to hide things in, on the other that space is quite limited, especially if we choose to believe the statement about the additional concussion bomb.

The sheriff has been seen wearing that hat almost without exception, so other than the possible hiding space there is nothing suspicious about it.

Now I have discovered something I consider a better possibility for a hiding place.

There is an object hidden behind Haffner on the couch under the blanket. It is an object that wasn't there when Jane arrived at the house. It seems highly unlikely a suspect could get inside undetected with an object of that size.

This is what the sofa looked like when Jane arrived:

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10mo58k&s=5#.Ut5oQLQ1i70

and this is what it looks like behind Haffner:

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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2m7ezdg&s=5#.Ut5owbQ1i70


There is a certain possibility Stiles was somehow involved in Janes plan. He arrives as the first of the suspects and since we don't see each individual text Jane sent out it is entirely possible that he was told to be there at an earlier time than the others. 

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Okay here is my Farragut theory:
Timothy Farragut is Jason Cooper is Red John. Whenever Stiles tried to kill Timothy Farragut,Farragut faked his death and changed his identity. Farragut then wormed his way back into Visualize to Stiles second in command while Stiles has no clue. Whenever Cooper was humiliated by Stiles whenever Cooper tried to take his place, Cooper didn't later use his alter ego as RJ to kill Stiles because he knew he had to be patient because Stiles was either going to die of cancer or would get his at Jane's house. Once Stiles was dead Cooper would rise to power to be Visualize's next leader.
•THE BA
He would then be the leader of two groups Visualize and his Red John disciples and finally be able to take down the dreaded BA. As someone else on this sight has mentioned when Red John told Patrick:Tyger Tyger
He was trying to give him a hint as to the existence of the BA so Patrick could take it down. Timothy Farragut was not in law enforcement so he was not in the BA and the only thing standing between him and control of California was the BA.
THE LIST
Cooper knew that Jane was getting close when Jane figured out Red John was someone he had shaken hands with so Cooper knew he had to act this time instead of letting Jane act first. I think that one of those guys that Kirkland sent into Jane's office was a member of Visualize and he looked more thoroughly than just at the board. I think that Jane hid his real work somewhere else. That is how Cooper got the list.

KRISTINA FRYE

Visualize is very good at brainwashing people so I think that Cooper knows a great deal about hypnosis and that is how he made Kristina go brain dead.
•KIRA TINSLEY

I think that the BA sent Kira Tinsley to bug the CBI to try and figure out how much Jane and the team knew about the BA. Bertram doesn't know that much because he does not work with Jane day-to-day and he is tasked with finding out how much Jane knows. ( remember from the meeting)
So Bertram sends Kira Tinsley in to bug the CBI. Jane and Cho figure it out and Bertram or someone else goes to kill her. They made the mistake of letting Kira see the tattoo. That was not Red John that killed her because he would have used a tazer or a gun to kill her and he would definitely not have left her alive.

•JANE's HOUSE
Jane plants bomb beforehand just in case. When Patrick lines everyone up Haffner goes for his gun. Jane detonates the bomb. Haffner is a Red John disciple and wakes up before everyone else and kidnaps the closest person next to him( McAllister) and takes him to Cooper who in turn hypnotizes McAllister into thinking he is Red John.

•Red John "episode"
Jane kills McAllister and thinks it is finally over. Cooper is glad he got off clean. Takes a break from being Red John and focuses on Visualize. I predict we will hear from Visualize again before the season finale.

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Not a theory just a partial observation. I think the coded message is fake through and through.

The reason for my suspicion is the following. Cho, Rigbsy and Van Pelt were searching the wrong room!

When we see Bertram walking to his storage space we see that they are numbered. He is walking to what must be space number 14. We can also see that storage space 12 is opposite space number 20. It follows that 13 is either opposite 19 or 21 and 14 opposite 18 or 22.

When the three are searching we can see that the opposite storage has the number 21. Therefore the 3 are finding the coded message in store 13 not in 14 that Bertram used before.

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