Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Another complete and very possible theory on Brett Partridge.

Many clues and reasoning always
brings me back to Partridge.
First I thought that perhaps it He is mar
means that is injured, in the sense that Jared does not know who he
is, but have struggled, as happened with Carter Peak and was
scratched, RJ was forced to flee because someone was coming, but
thought he was dead , but before dying he wrote on the wall. Then he
took away samples of trace or altered after they are collected by
Scientific. RJ had to do before the CBI. Or does it mean Marshall in
the sense of police officer.
If RJ is Partridge knew well how to
eliminate all traces of samples of the hospital, because his
fingerprints and his DNA is in the database, such as those of all
members of the police and army. The elements against Brett are the
following:
- The same voice in 2×23 (the voice is very similar, but maybe isn't the same
also in 4×24, and similar at the voice of Carter). He has a particular way of pronunce some letter and some word, and a particular way of speak some phrases
- Its size and appearance fits on Roy, as described by
Rosalind)
- The clothing of her first appearance resembles that of
Roy Tagliaferro, and the masked man who save Jane in copycats scene
- His necktie and jacket with the word forensics,
it seems that the mysterious figure who follows Rebecca in 2×08
-
Admiration for RJ
- Presence on the two scene of copycats (Wagner and snuff movie directors)
- The
picture of Blake  “A brace of partridge”, linked by a Red John poetry in 2x23, The Tyger
- The character
is completely useless for the purposes of the plot, in the second
appearance; others minors characters have an utility in the storyline
- Although this has a name and a surname instead of
simply called CBI Brett or CSI Brett (unlike CBI Ron, CBI Karl, Security guard Jim or other
agents and characters), appears in the pilot (is also described in the script), but
no one ever mentions him. This is a sign that is important. It's only character very minor that he has a complete name
- In 2x23: the
scene between RJ and Jane (goes away and comes back) is the perfect mirror
image of the previous one between Jane and Brett (for me is very important clue)
- The character
sarcastic and childish (RJ kills for fun and fun and getting offended
easily, as the Joker, even if it’s Jane Moriarty)
- He hates
Jane: perhaps you feel nervous and inadequate in its true form, but
through his role as RJ instead became the charismatic and confident,
like many people with dual identities
- When asked, no “He
interpreted physically RJ?”, But “has lent her voice to RJ
MASKED?” Plotnick said, “I can not say anything to avoid the risk
of ruining the surprise,” he could say or explain: “I only
voiced” or “no, I know nothing” but not said, perhaps because
it had a contractual clause which requires them to remain vague.
-
Has an important position (CSI supervisor, says about: “My guys
have to work”)
- For the same age as (1968) could be both a
friend of Tanner, both of Johnson, O’Laughin and Montero (the
perpetrator of the museum) and Kristina
- Hightower is trapped by
forensics (O’Laughlin killed Montero, but also because he hadn't access to evidence)
-
The CSI agents probably is under him (the strange nervous behavior) also work at
the scene of Timothy Carter
- We know nothing of his true
abilities nor his financial situation (maybe it’s full rich of family or
earn easily with scams and casino)

. The behavior of Partridge does not exclude the fact that it can be
extremely intelligent, but wants to hide appearing stupid or
insignificant (Jane says: “the viewers watch the girl assistant,
while the magician does his tricks,” which could be, in the case of
RJ : look at all the famous actors McDowell, Currie Graham and
Bradley Whitford, and should look Plotnick). However, Partridge is a
person who has the power and capabilities, otherwise it would have
been the supervisor of the CSI, as suggested. All these false trails
laid there for detecting, after almost seemed to shout that he was in
RJ 2×23, the answer to Jack Plotnick (which still does not know when
he will return). the evidence and the arguments make it suspect.



Age: Partridge should actually be older
than Jane (at least the actor is older than one year).

If Heller or other writers in future will says who Red John is a
guest and he don't appear for many time in the show, with his face,
Partridge can be return a very strong suspect. The episode 2x23 screams
to us that Red John is Brett.
He's a ghoul, nervous and seemingly uncharismatic, with a mad face, but even Jim Moriarty of BBC Sherlock has a crazy appearance,  the first time we saw him (in the laboratory) looked like a guy with no power and no leader's character, in fact psychopaths know perfectly disguise, like as is also shown in The Mentalist many times.
Then Brett is right in suspect's list.

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I think everything points to him, or is that just everyone wants us to think? Jane is smart; he would
have figured it out, and I bet he analyzes specific things in everyone
he meets to compare them to Red John, given his past. We can't know for
sure if Jane suspects him or not. Onto the physical aspect, Roselind
Harker did describe Red John as Bret looks. Average height, short,
straight hair, neither strong nor weak, just soft-ish. The calloused
hands would make perfect sense for Bret, given his job. He can be Red
John, or an accomplice. Also, he's perfect for the descriptions as an
accomplice; O' Laughlin was FBI, he couldn't really have gotten deep
into the CBI. Bret could. Big possibility... :)


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I am unsure about WHO Red John is but as much as it would be an interesting twist, Patrick Jane as the man is too unlikely. How could he have 'seen' Red John in the episode where he is saved if it is him...

I believe that Red John  will be someone tied to the story in a small way but no major role. This is in conjunction with a pattern that runs throughout every episode where every killer has a small part in the episode, and then is cunningly caught.

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CBI Ron, the background agent, regular guest in many scenes is suspect.
There are clues to support this truth. And Ron, for me, is Roy Tagliaferro and Red John.
But
strange coincidence on Ron; he's one of fews that can influence the
proofs on Red John, and RJ is so smart that work in PJ's office and and
hide its true identity.

CBI Ron (portrayed by John Troy Donovan, aka John Justin Donovan, actor, MUSICIAN and composer):

1)
The RJ appareance. Red John is like Waldo, as says Bruno Heller, and we
have already seen him. Ron is always absent when RJ is in action
himself, or he's in background, as to control the accomplices (example:
in Rebecca's case and Bosco's team murder).

2)The
name. He has the initial letter identic, like in movie  “The Usual
Suspects”.
Red JOhN is contract in RON. What is the surname? If only
could read the badge. Maybe is Jordan or another with J. Maybe James,
etc.

3)The name 2. Roy Tagliaferro/ Cutiron; "Red JOHN- ROY cuT
iRON": contain “John” (obviously), “Troy” a"D." and “Ron” (and also
agent Rojo). “John Troy Donovan as Ron”

4) The hand

http://i47.tinypic.com/2dtar06.jpg CBI Ron/Donovan: screen by interview

http://i45.tinypic.com/azflew.jpg RJ's hand with tea cup
This images maybe
already posted in this site but I've posted on tinypic for public use, time ago, and report here for support the theory.
Red
John/Roy Tagliaferro's hand has a ring? The hand may be that of Ron.
Ron has a similar -wedding ring in a ring-finger (like PJ). Also the shirt is similar.


5) Ron drinks tea (maybe). In an episode (3x08) he take a cup of tea to Jane.

6)

Ron is in the CBI office with Wainwright and the only CBI Karl, before
Luther meet Darcy and go to morgue, and before he was kidnapped; and
only Ron, Wainright and Karl
see well the fake Rigsby's body, apart Cho and Van Pelt.
Maybe he understand immediately the trap,
but it is confirmed by the FBI mole (or Darcy?).

7) Is Ron can be a marshal? Or he was a marshal in his past. Remember He is mar...

It
may be funny if his name was "Ronald "Ron" J. Marshall", better know
Red John or Roy Tagliaferro/Cutiron. Or Ronald John Marshall... The name
must be probably write in the badge, but it's too small in the screen.




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Lot of people think Red John is Patrick Jane with double personality. I think is more plausible the idea that he has a twin brother(same smart as Patrick but with an evil side) of course he is not aware of his twin brother, only RJ knows it.
For example if you see when patrick jane make his smiley is quite similar to red john blood smiley, what a coincidence.

Would also explain why RJ save Patrick in 2x23, and he never try to kill him.

At the end of first season, when he kill the cop, before he died, the cop said: red john, jane, shhh (like a secret)

Or when he interview Rebecca, and she said you and red john are so similar.

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He really killed the real red john in 'strawberries and cream 2',  and has taken over the red john persona ever since.  So far the only ones he has killed is the serial killer Panzer and the murdering Todd Johnson, and I suspect he will use the red john moniker for a lot of mischief.  I think he is halucination some things like the 'tyger tyger' mumbled by Todd Johnson on his death bed, c'mon that guy wasn't saying anything...and possible he doesn't know himself that he is now the new red john.  The taped recording strapped to Wainright is the voice of Patrick Jane mimicing the voice of the real red john as he heard it in the 'tyger tyger burning bright' incident.

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