Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Teresa Lisbon is dead.

Patrick Jane is currently in an asylum for the insane.

Lisbon died at the hands of Red John at the end of S6E1.  How else can we explain why RJ didn’t kill her?  RJ always draws the smiley face when he kills and it is present at Lisbon’s death site, on her face.  A very personal message for Patrick Jane.  Jane at that point loses his sanity and begins to hallucinate.  He wants to believe that it is drawn on her face because he can’t deal with the responsibility that he is cause of the death of another who is so close to him.  He wants to wash off the smiley face because he wants to wash away the reality of Lisbon’s death and believe that Lisbon is still alive.  Are we to believe that RJ is afraid of birds or that he just wanted to show Jane that he is in control of the situation?  Jane has been hallucinating everything from S6E2 on.  In S6E2 he believes that his original psychiatrist Sophie Miller is murdered by RJ but the murder is not typical of RJ.  A note is placed on the refrigerator and her head is placed in the oven.  RJ is always proud of his work and as Jane has stated, the smiley face is always the first thing you see because he is proud of his work.  Jane is back in the mental hospital, and he refuses to accept that Sophie Miller is again treating him.  So, he believes that RJ has killed her but in a way which alerts him subconsciously that the murder is not real.  As Jane has stated before, he has revealed things to Miller he doesn’t remember and during his first mental breakdown she was able to analyze him deeper than anyone has ever been able to.  A secretive man like Jane would not be comfortable with anybody understanding the true Jane that well.  E3:  Jane dreams that Rigby and Van Pelt get married, moving on with their lives in much the same way that his subconscious (through Charlotte) tried to tell him to move on.  E4:  Jane's subconscious reveals to himself that Hightower is involved with RJ (her statement that RJ is cleaning house).  E5:  Why would RJ need to bug CBI?  He has access to the building (if we believe it is McAllister) because he meets with Bertram and it was not presented as an unusual event for him to be in the CBI Building.  The private detective who approaches Cho looks like Summer and this is either RJ showing he has the ability to influence Cho or Jane believing that Cho is not the rock of the group.  E6-8:  they speak for themselves.  They wander like a hallucination.  How would Jane contact and set up the meet in his house as quickly as he did, in two days.  He is able to contact Stiles and “convince” him to attend the meeting.  Why would Stiles attend?  It is not to his advantage and places him in Jane’s control.  Why the time between the shot and the explosion?  The time sequence is off in these episodes and they suffer from being rushed and contrived to get to the house.  Then the episodes suddenly slow down and we are to believe that Jane is being held and prevented from getting to the final meeting place?  Then the ridiculous chase scene?  Why no fundamental answers to the RJ mystery?   

The new beginning or two year break.  Huh?  A new beginning with all of the old characters?  The new characters they’ve added:  Abbott who is suppose to be a FBI supervisor but is really the hospital administrator who we barely see.  Fischer who is suppose to be his FBI handler but is really the new psychiatrist who tries to first reach out to Jane (the island) and then when that is not affective, she exerts her power over him by trying to control him (the strict Fischer at the FBI office).  So who is with Jane at the FBI?  Cho and Lisbon.  This is to re-enforce the concept in Jane’s mind that he is not responsible for Lisbon’s death, but wants to believe she is still alive.  The idea of the FBI shutting down the CBI makes no sense.  How can a federal agency close a state agency?  Can’t be done.  But if Lisbon is dead, then the CBI team would have to disband.  Lisbon is the glue holding the team together.  When she was replaced by Hightower, Jane did everything in his power to have her re-instated.  If Jane were responsible (at least in his mind) for Lisbon’s death, it would close his relationship with the CBI.  He has far more information on RJ, at this point, than the CBI does, he is only still at the CBI because of Lisbon and the stray piece of information which comes their way.  He promised to keep her safe in the first season and has failed.

So Jane kills McAllister and then goes off to an island for two years where no one can find him.  Yet, Fischer is not only able to locate him, but is able to strike up a personal relationship with him.  It is as if Fischer has joined the hospital staff (after two years?) and is introduced to Jane and he relates this through his belief that he is on the island.  But that relationship is limited and then she reveals her true self, that of a person with power over Jane who tries to control him (the drugs to bring his psychotic events under control).  Again, she is a person who is in Jane’s life but not willingly in Jane’s life.  He sees her on a daily basis but Patrick Jane could not read her for who she is?  An admission from his subconscious about where he really is.   

How can we explain the lack of public reaction to Jane murdering a second man (who happens to be a police officer) and yet nobody discusses it (apart from Abbott and Fischer)?  This never made the papers?  Lisbon is OK with this even though she has always maintained that Jane would not kill RJ?  Not only did Jane commit a revenge killing, he did it twice.  That wouldn’t be national news?  Wouldn’t Karen Cross want to interview him, hold shows about Jane and his actions?  Make as much out of this action as possible to revive a career that Jane messed with? 

So Lisbon is dead and Jane is back in the mental hospital. 

Finally who is Red John?  I would suggest that RJ is Brett Partridge.  He’s not dead because he killed Lisbon.  He is the only other person we know was in the house even if it is implied that there is someone else.  That someone was created by Jane's mind.  Partridge has been battling Jane from the very beginning.  The RJ who is the master manipulator allows the rest of the world to know him as Brett Partridge.  Jane insulted him on TV and RJ killed his family.  Jane is condescending to him (as Partridge) every time they meet at work.  As Partridge, he resents the relationship Jane has with Lisbon.  He lures Lisbon to the abandon house and then kills her.  His motive is to prove to Jane that he is smarter and has won the game the two have been playing for ten years. 

The season finale will be Partridge coming to the hospital and saying in the RJ voice “Hello, Patrick.  I told you I’d be back to visit.”

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If Mcallister is the real Red John, maybe it's possible that a other killer appears later. Imagine someone who imitates Red John, who sign too a bloody smiley. Maybe Red John's son. Him, he could be Mcallister's son and wanting to revenge the death of his father, no? :( http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131211031861/thementalist/images/5/5e/Fbi_agent_jason_wylie.....)

If Mcallister isn't Red John, for me, it's Brett Partridge ( or Stiles ).: https://scontent-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/554428_10151444533345607_502628388_n.jpg

Before the episode 8, i trought Red John was Michael Kirkland, Bob's Brother, and he had to change identity and face, and had become Brett Partridge...it would have been cool, no? 

So, good night, and sorry for my english very bad....

Tiger, Tiger...

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Taking visualize seriously.

This is not a RJ theory, just something
that might be fun to think about.

There is
one thing any observant viewer must have noticed:

When it comes to "The Mentalist" things are seldom
clearly one way or the other. When things are clear they often turn
out to be the opposite of what they were presented.

One of the great mysteries
of the show is certainly visualize. The way it is protrayed there are strong parallels to
Scientology. I would guess most people consider Scientology
both scary and ridiculous at the same time, especially after the
famous South Park episode explaining their ludicrous belief system.


Everything we see and hear about visualize draws a clear picture. Visualize seems like a wacky organization that is all about money and
power. They match allmost all of common cliches of a cult. Pompous
speeches by charismatic but fake leader, pseudo scientific gimmicks,
cult specific rhetoric "brother XYZ", internal power
struggels and so forth.

Now what is being accomplished by portraying visualize in this very definite way?

The message becomes irrelevant!

By making the case described above our mind is receiving the clear message: Don't bother paying attention to their message, it is irrelevant, it is just psycho blabber.

 Just for the fun of it let's do the opposite.

The first thing we learn about their message is Bret Stiles speech from S02E20:

"The eye is not just the window to the soul.
It is the key to unlocking your greatness.
It is the key, because when you see it, you will be it.
One more time.
The eye is not just the window to the soul.
It is the key to unlocking..."

Notice that the shows intro has changed from the beginning of season 2. The first thing we see after the 3 colored lines is Patrick Janes eye.

The second time we meet Stiles and Visualize is in S03E03:

"You see, if the mind is free...
...there's nothing that you can't achieve,
It's a spaceship with the power
to travel across all six dimensions...
because then the mind has no limits."

This seems pretty random at first sight, but there is well known theology professor in th UK by the name of Ninan Smart. He was featured as consultant in a BBC documentary about World Religions in the 70's. Other than that he is best know for defining a religion by a six dimensional scheme:

1.Doctrinal
2.Mythological
3.Ethical
4.Ritual
5.Experiential
6.Institutional



He introduces the six dimension in 1968 in the publication "Secular Education and the Logic of Religion". He added a 7th dimesion (Material) in 1989 "The Worlds Religions". There is even a little inside joke in the conversation between Jane and Stiles:

PJ: "Why offer only six dimensions?
Is it to hold off a couple of dimensions to sell later?

Stiles:"No. I think six is quite enough."

Later on in the same episode Patrick is reading "Visualize Life" and we get a quick peak at the text. Unfortunately some words are not readable, but it still paints an interesting picture:

"Truth and nothing but the Truth

You have eschewed this base level and I, again, congratulate you on ____ ___
for most lost souls out there even this basic step will never happen. You ___ ___
wayfarer yourself. You will travel many roads you have trod upon, but now ___
these very familiar pathways with keener eyes. DO NOT BE AFRAID. ______
the veil away can be startling, confusing,  and even a bit anoying, but if you ___
the course, I promise you will ultimately be rewarded in ways you can not even conceive of right now.

Like I said,  this journey will not be for the faint of heart. To be pure of mind (and) focused of action, takes unyielding vigilance. Thruthfull to a fault with yourself and your visualize bretheren is one of the best ways to keep integrity with yourself. Through your daily ventilations, you will free youself from negative energy and aspects that ____
licking their chops at the prospect of clouding your judgment and weakening your
resolve. You must endeavor never to hold back any thing, because the very act
immediately leads to your holding back of your own potential. 

At this point I want you to take a deep breath and dive in head first. You remember
your first experiences with large bodies of water, don't you? Whether is was at
____ or an ocean, there is always something a little daunting about it.____
_____ because of what lies beneath the surface. Unseen treasures
__________ the time you make the decision to go under____
________immerse yourself. It feels like a rush____
___________erve ending in your body is______
_____________ally start to make the e_____"




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I know a lot of people have said the mentalist has ripped off other shows well listen to this.
The hbo show "true detectives" with Mathew maconahey and Woody Harleson is a really good show but it is just like the mentalist in many ways.
Main character lost his daughter , cant sleep, and can see right thru people. Same religious views as jane as he could care less. Very pessimistic view of life and humans.
He is looking for a serial killer with his partner woody harelson who has a lot of accolades and plays things by the logical book.
The serial killer kills woman and uses cult like tattoos and symbols on the victim. He or she most likely is part of a crazy church in a red barn like southern setting. His followers call him god.
There is a BA like political pull and push putting pressure on the investigation. A religious head of church type guy has a lot of power . Friend of mayor. Seems evil.

It made me even more pumped up for the mentalist cuz i know Macalister was NOT godlike or had the mental fortitude to be a crazy serial killer with followers who would die for him happily and not gang members like the BA.

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I would really like Red John to still be alive but at the moment I'm 50/50 that he is.

If he is I think it will be Michael Kirkland as I can't think why they would reveal bob Kirkland has a twin and a back story for him.
What we no about Michael is he had a abusive father so that could fit with him becoming a serial killer and
He drifted further from bob when he met a man who I believe it Brett stiles and joined Visualize when he finally cut all contact with his brother.
So lets say he works on the farm and kills them people and becomes RJ and leaves Visualize.
I think Brett stiles either knows Michael is RJ or thinks its him.

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Theory #17294 • By Will-the-Thrill
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Red John is Dianne Feinstein. Here is my proof:1. She is evil.2. She resembles a man and could be as strong as one.3. She clearly does not prefer to use a gun.4. She is evil.5. She lives in California.6. She has connections to law enforcement.7. She is evil.8. She killed Mascone and Milk and blamed it on someone else.9. People prefer not to look at her face and thus can hide in plain sight.10 She is evil. This list may apply to Boxer and Pelosi as well.

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