he matches all of the evidence he works high up in the CBI so it wouldn't be hard to get friends in the FBI as
rj says he has. in the episode jane goes into the limo with loralie rj has kidnapped jane's boss so only someone
he knew well would be able to get him like that
Has anyone even considered the possibility of Ray Haffner being Red John? I mean yeah he kind of seems to obvious to being him after the episode 'Red Barn' in season 5. But it seemed awfully suspicious of him to be in that Visualize cult and whatever and Jane suspected Red John was involved with the cult and he told Lisbon about it. Also when Lisbon asked Haffner if he'd ever worked at the farm where the bodies were found in 1988 when he would've been about 21 he blows off the question? Doesn't that seem a little odd? Yeah we don't know if he knows Jane and quite frankly I'm not sure if he's been in any past espidoes but Lorelai said Jane knew Red John and shook hands with him. So if he knew and or met Haffner(which im pretty sure he has) then we know he's a possible suspect or he could be working with red john like several others have as well. Either way something about him gives me a bad feeling about him and my fingers for now are completely pointed at him. I know I should automatically assume but better safe then sorry. And what was up with Lisbon not telling Jane of how weird he was being?! I would've immediately told him. Especially after finding out about Janes suspicions on the Visualize cult and Haffner being involved in it. Was it because she didn't want Jane to obsess over him? I don't know. It was foolish to not tell him. But I'm sure it'll be brought up sooner or later. Another big thing that draws me to Haffner being involved with Red John or being him is him asking Lisbon to leave the CBI. Maybe it's his way of separating Jane from Lisbon? I don't know. This show messes with my mind.
the ammount of senseless theories here makes me want do devote my time to work on the human genome....
I am 99% shure it is Virgil Minelli... it has to be someone older... it has to be a male...why was his charachter thrown out of the series if not to let other suspects appear as red john.. he shook patricks hand.. he has connections due to 20 years in police and 9 years as cbi boss...he likes to catch fish- as does Jason Lennon... i cant remember the number of the episode but virgils says to jane; you are not in kanzas anymore dorothy; and jane replies; if i am dorothy,who are you? he doesnt answer but its obvious-- the wizard of oz :D
and that william blake poem--- here is something else from Blake, a picture
http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/william-blake/dante-and-virgil-at-the-gates-of-hell
im sure 101% we allready seen RJ in the series...
considering age,intelect,connections in police,fbi
its Minelli
Congratulations you can all ease your minds because I know who red John is.
He has everyone kicking and screaming to draw attention to his followers rather than himself. If anyone bothered to pay attention to the finer details they would see in season 2 episode 8 when Rebecca takes balloons to agent bosco just past the agents is an other man sitting outside the door holding flowers. The camera rest for a pause like a sweet sigh! And when they did they showed you exactly who red john is.In which for this episode was mr. Red johns calling card if you will were flowers. When means Lisbon busted disrupted his plans to make him the next victim in line but shows you he is still making mistakes by watching and learning.. Now as some of you will you'll go back to watch an rewind. It's him... I don't have a name but WE all have his description...it's him.
Good show with good writers with that being said if I'm right as a reward I shall hope to me mr Jane, the cast and the writers . I await a response
:)
Firstly a few people are throwing around the Ellis mars theory. While it is a good one, Jane never actually shakes
hands with him, therefore it cannot be him.
Secondly is we are to believe Kirkland is RJ ( possibly ) an episode outline saying he is asking Jane about RJ does not mean that he isn't. Because he along with Homeland and the FBI are investigating the RJ case he has every right to ask Jane what he knows. Also if Loriali was killed then RJ knows Jane is getting closer to him. So Kirkland may very wel be asking him to see how much he knows and what lose ends need to be cut.
Also IMDB has put up that there is a season 6. meaning that Kirkland is more likely an associate of RJ and not in fact RJ himself. In my opinion it is impossible to tell who RJ is because even if Jane has met him, we might not have. sidenote.. the flashback episode was there for a reason.. Jane shakes 3 peoples hands... the Judge who asks Jane if he has kids then says, if you want to hurt a man kill his family, second person is virgil the 3rd is Lisbon. I think the shaking hands thing has more to it. Because RJ would have loved shaking Janes hand. For him it would have been pure ecstasy for him. It cannot be Jane, on the fact that he would never kill Loriali.
RJ IS NOT ROBERT KIRKLAND. And you can safely say he isn't a friend of RJ either. Go to the mentalist season 5 on wikipedia; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mentalist_%28season_5%29 and look at the episode 19 information it says; "While the CBI investigates a murder at a Wild West theme park, an
inquisitive Kirkland presses Jane for information about Red John." Why would he ask about info on RJ if he's supposedly RJ's accomplice? The reason he is asking Jane for information is because he too is also trying to capture RJ.
RIP RED JOHN IS ROBERT KIRKLAND THEORIES
ok guys, i was looking up on 'He is Ma' and i came up with this page!
it blew me away, i think it actually makes sense.
http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Ellis_Mars