Who is Red John?

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Brett Styles, Ray Haffner, Bret Partridge and Lorelei Martins will return in Season 7. I believe that is why the show was renewed (also because Simon Baker has a contract until season 7) and everything will be explained, I see no other reason why we only have 13 episodes. Everything comes to an end.

Brett Styles: First Red John (Until Elliston Farm) and mentor of the actual Red John.
Ray Haffner: Roy Tagliaferro
Brett Partdrige: Actual Red John
Lorelei Martins: She told the list of the suspects to Jane. (As the Stoopkid has said).


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hey fpolks. i will make a quick comment and then vanish. i mean did you guys notice how good rockmond dunmar acted in this episode..he was like hey cho man what the hell do you think..his expressionas of dibelief were just priceless and hilarious..i am liking him more and more..i mean back in the 7th episode when he made that entry who would have thought we could adore him after like 15 episodes..so he is a great actor that way i say

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Guys posted in the comment section is the infamous clue from Lorelie's crime scene.
In addition to this clue, Lorelie had no mark on her face and NO gunshot wound on her left arm!
She had both in the Dvd. I mean not even a scratch where she got shot. Weird...
Check out the comment section for the pic...

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My wishlist for season 7?  
Our recent discussion of "Hannibal" got me to thinking 'what if TM did that?'  You know, went back and started at the very VERY beginning. Let's see how RJ really got to know Patrick Jane and how Jane really got to where he was before he walked thru' the doors at the CBI.  
Yep, tough to do in 13 weeks and very little room for the rest of the cast but hey, give me a couple days.  Betcha I can make it work.





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I gotta be honest before the season 6 finale i thought the Rj stuff was over.
I did not expect anything from the finale other than Jisbon.
However, after it ended i thought about season 6 and all we have seen and i got real excited for season 7.
For the same reason we all said "why kill red john in ep 8 and not the finale", we can also say why burst any bubble or end anything in season 6.
We really did not think there would be a season 7 but Baker and Heller did.
Season 7 is gonna be the best season since season 3.
Lets face it seasons 4,5,6, were all shaky.
The show can go anywhere now. The fbi setting is great for Jane to do more crazy things and all the secrets and stuff avoided and untold in season 6 will have to answered in season 7.
The writers are doing fine they are really messing with us but fear mot because this is the final season and secrecy will end.
Lorelie gave jane the list of 7. There is no trick into guessing the list so that cop out excuse is done.
Re watch season 6 with that in mind and it will be much clearer to whats going on.

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This show used to be good but since 6x01 it has plummeted. to the point of being no more worth watching than CSI and all the other mediocre crap I used to think was beneath it.

I can't understand why the creative team behind the show would allow this to happen but it seems to be deliberate. Maybe They wanted the show to be cancelled? Or maybe the network said the show was too clever and needed to be dumbed down? Either way its a shame.

I won't be watching next season.

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I read this on another site, i am not the only one with this line of thinking apparentlt...
But i was the first to say red john never guessed Janes list, Lorelie made the list.

'"Jane also knows that Lorelei was not killed by RJ. He easily spotted her death scene as faked by the Feds. So, Jane also knew that Lorelei was in Fed custody; and, that the video where she supposedly reads out the names on his RJ suspects list was actually made while in Fed cudtody.

Was Jane amazed that Lorelei knew (possibly from Red John) the names on his list? Nope; because he never had that list until Lorelei read it. When Lisbon arrives and wants to know if Red John was right, Jane has pictures for each of the suspects on 'his list' ready to show her as proof that, Yep, RJ scored 100%! (Jane doesn't want Lisbon and CBI to know that Lorelei is still alive.)

Lorelei, of course, knew Jane would spot the faked Fed setup. She probably cooperated with the Feds to help set it up (and made sure it was botched). Feds went along with the video because she would not ID Red John but would include Red John in the list for Patrick to eventually ferret out whereupon the Feds would nab RJ. Lorelei knew that would be Jane's belief, too.

So, both the Feds and Jane believed Lorelei would include the name of Red John so that Patrick would kill RJ before the Feds could arrest him. Feds gambled they would be able to prevent that and grab RJ alive.

Lorelei lied to both. She is Red John the mastermind. She had managed to find and kill Red John the serial killer before being grabbed by the Feds.

The heart of Lorelei's (Red John's) organization is not Tyger-Tyger with agents wearing a silly 'three stones' (trail symbol = "danger") tattoo. Perhaps Lorelei somehow acquired Tyger-Tyger connections or even a position of leadership.

Lorelei's organization is primarily made up of women 'Red John' has rescued and recruited from women's shelters. She treated them well and gave each of them a new, interesting life with plenty of money and other benefits. That is why her female agents are so dedicated to 'Red John'.

When it came time to arrange for getting the video to Jane, Lorelei would have to be given some freedom by the Feds in order to contact an agent of RJ and get him/her to make a convincing delivery. (I think Lorelei used the situation to escape the Feds.) The female agent 'tied up loose ends' by taking poison.

We can guess that Lorelei was once, years ago, known to Jane as a girl with red hair named "Carmen". We do not know their relationship. We can guess that Lorelei feels affection for Jane and that, maybe, Jane felt affection for Carmen back then"

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