Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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What it all comes down to is if red john really isn't Mcallister. That's the big question. As of 6x8 I probably have to admit that it was true. As pathetic of an ending as it was, that was it. The writers saw the end coming. They decided to without thinking, draw a random name from a hat and pick that guy as RJ. They f'd it up. Totally fubar. So they rushed the ending of a great story while neglecting all things rational. Why'd they rush you ask? They rushed so they'd still have 1/2 a season to do two things....satisfy the jisbon cronies, and maybe with the slightest bit of lick, extend the series one more time with a revamp and change of scenery.


But now what? They got the extension, and can do with it whatever they want. Option 1, 13 episodes of the Walton's incest style. Option 2, BA/Visualize angle to provide a little sense of closure after the RJ fail. Option 3,they decide RJ shouldn't be Mcallister, instead Mcallister was just BA, and was there to deliver a message to Patrick. What message you ask? " the game is over and I won". To my recollection, mcasshole never said the words "I am red john". Instead he was there to give Patrick the message that red john had won. How did he win? He won by convincing Patrick and everyone else that he was Mcallister. Now all he has left to do is wait. Wait for PJ and Lisbon to get together now that their defenses are down. What for them to have a baby. And just as season seven begins, wait for Patrick to leave them home alone.......then season seven starts with another note on the outside of a bedroom in Patricks house.

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Grace Van Pelt is Psychic, maybe.

This is a stretch but i have seen a few episodes where i thought to myself that Grace might have "powers".
We all know Grace is all about psychic stuff. She stands up for Kristina Freye hardcore on the day she meets her like she had known her for 2 centuries.
Now my evidence can easily be torn apart but this is what i saw..

-When Wayne is complaining to Cho that he has not had sex since he has been married.
Then poof Gvp is naked in Cbi ready to go and said "i know what you were thinking". I know it could just be female intuition but the way it went down so dramatically makes me feel otherwise.
-Right before Ardilles is murdered, Wayne is driving around. Grace says did you eat tacos? And of coarse Wayne was just about to bite into one.
*This is stood out because of a famous scene with Jane when he was on the phone with Cho and and said "Rigsby don't eat the cupcakes" right as Rigsby was about to eat one.
-also it was weird in the episode when Jane called her out and said she "had a traumatic experience in her past that is so terrifying she has not even said a word about it, not even to herself".
THEN Jane slips into a trance and had a flashback from an old client middle aged with Red Hair.
Jane obviously bullshitted her and the woman committed suicide soon after due what he said.
Then Jane passes out..
It was a weird chain of events.

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Could Jane's Father Alex be the Red John?

Red John started killing 1998. We don't know where Alex was at that time. Perhaps he joined Visualize, and Stiles gave him ideas how to win his son back. Stiles always seemed to know more about Jane than just watching his TV shows. And who could tell him more about Jane than a proud or disappointed Father can?
Jane's insult over the TV, really hit Red John hard. We all expect strangers/enemy to be harsh towards us, but the biggest pain is when your family hurts you. The killing was personal, but perhaps more than we are led to believe.

Red John's letter to Jane after killing his family accuses Jane of faking his powers. Who knows the truth better than Alex?

Why did Red John paint Angela and Charlotte's toenails? Was that done to bring the attention to the hands? Pointing out that "Bite The Hand That Feeds You"

One thing I don't remember to be ever revealed is if Red John broke into Jane's house at the time of murder or was he let in? If there was no signs of forced entry then his wife knew Red John, and she must have met Alex being part of the same carnie.

He might have killed Jane's family hoping the pain will drive Jane back to him. Jane might even know that subconsciously which was reflected in the hallucination of his daughter who didn't wanted Jane to find her killer, because it might be too hard to for him to handle the truth. 

Sure, Lorelei said something about a handshake, which would make the theory ridiculous, but if she was misleading Jane to give herself time to find Red John first, then perhaps we should look at her comparison " You are just like him" and you know what they say: "Like Father Like Son" "Apple doesn't fall far from the tree" and so on so forth.

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i'm sure i'm not the first loser to suggest this, but i'm gonna do it anyways.


this show is all about red herrings.  every single episode we are introduced to a handful of suspects for a murder mystery.  throughout the episode different ones are ruled out and others are made to look very guilty.  in the long run, it usually ends up being the least likely suspect, or even someone that wasn't even presented as a suspect in the first place.


so why would it be any different for RJ.  if heller wanted to give us 7 names to pick from, shouldn't we have taken the history of the show as a clue and automatically looked at those 7 as the least likely??  i mean the first few episodes of season 6 revolved around trying to make each of the 7 listed suspects seem guilty.  from irrational fears, to weird sacrificial ceremonies, to random whistling and quoting william blake, each of the 7 listed suspects were shoved in our face as being guilty.  so if you are going with the theme of the metalist, these 7 names should be eliminated as suspects simply because they were suggested so strongly.


i know stoopkid has been down this road and posted a theory on just about every character, director, or key grip that has had anything to do with the production of this show, but maybe we should step back and take a look at the "other" suspects.  frey, mashburn, ellis mars, the lady feeding pigeons, pike, roger at the bar, teresa's brother, rosalind, the pigeon........i know its a reach but i think a case could be made for just about anybody if the reveal came with a little background or explanation.

plus i think at this point we are just re-hashing old theories, so it's either get creative or start planning for 13 episodes of happy-go-lucky incestuous tear jerkers.

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i have avoided this one for a long time, but i really do think it warrants a deep thought.  i've seen a lot of tv/movies, and EVERY time that we as an audience are specifically told that someone is ASSUMED to be dead, but not PROVEN to be dead, that person ALWAYS turns out to be alive.


So if we are directly told to ASSUME that Micheal Kirkland is dead, then we must really ASSUME he is alive.  Is he RJ, possibly, or maybe an accomplice, or if RJ really did die, maybe his replacement.


Does he fit the profile of RJ???? 
Well his mama committed suicide and daddy was an abusive alcholic.  So mommy/daddy issues are there.  It is in his blood to torture as we witnessed his twin removing digits from suspects that wouldn't talk.  Could easily be a demented serial killer psychopath based on profiling.  Physical description and age seem to match the suggested details of the blind lady and shrink.


Are there significant clues pointing to him being RJ????
His brother was torturing people who he thought could lead him to RJ but he killed the one person that could lead him to RJ without even so much as removing a pinkie?  It would make a lot more sense for him to kill Lennon if he was Michael.  Bob would have questioned Lennon.
He, or Bob, was there from the beginning (meeting with Minelli in Red Dawn), even if via flashback episode.
The actor, Kevin Corrigan, was creepy as hell in the role of Bob so it would be great to see him back.
Michael could easily have used his borther's identity to get access to law enforcement stuff.


I am not completely sold, but this would go a ton further in making sense than Mcallister and the whole BA mess.  Even if they held firm with McAllister, this could bring back the angle and give him a legit sidekick to chase.  I just have to think this would be better than a season of poop and pacifier cases.


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Something that has ALWAYS bothered me big-time.
When Styles knew Kristina Freye was taken and then knew exactly where she was!
And when Jane asks how he gives a shit answer "i know more than you or red john will ever know".

But really how the F did he know yet have no idea who Rj is?
Someone had to of told him the info so who are they and so forth.
That always drove me crazy.
Freye in a empty house with a light staring at the wall.
Then Janes spirit trick worked and she talked to him.
SHE REMEMBERED WHO JANE WAS YET HAD NOO IDEA WHO RED JOHN WAS OR HOW SHE DIED??!!
Reality check: Styles didnt magically guess where Rj was
And Freye was fine and messing with everyone.
She is a con artist just like Jane and Styles.
All 3 of them are very similar.

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Im had to rewatch all the episodes and here is an interesting quote from S6 E07.
 
(Right after Lisbon and Jane questioned Smith about the BA.)

Libson: You believe him ?
Jane: He confessed a murder. Red John would never break like that, not even as an act.

Really interesting if you think the way McAllister acted at S6 E08. And that was 1 episode before S6 E08. 

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