Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Could Jane's Father Alex be the Red John?

Red John started killing 1998. We don't know where Alex was at that time. Perhaps he joined Visualize, and Stiles gave him ideas how to win his son back. Stiles always seemed to know more about Jane than just watching his TV shows. And who could tell him more about Jane than a proud or disappointed Father can?
Jane's insult over the TV, really hit Red John hard. We all expect strangers/enemy to be harsh towards us, but the biggest pain is when your family hurts you. The killing was personal, but perhaps more than we are led to believe.

Red John's letter to Jane after killing his family accuses Jane of faking his powers. Who knows the truth better than Alex?

Why did Red John paint Angela and Charlotte's toenails? Was that done to bring the attention to the hands? Pointing out that "Bite The Hand That Feeds You"

One thing I don't remember to be ever revealed is if Red John broke into Jane's house at the time of murder or was he let in? If there was no signs of forced entry then his wife knew Red John, and she must have met Alex being part of the same carnie.

He might have killed Jane's family hoping the pain will drive Jane back to him. Jane might even know that subconsciously which was reflected in the hallucination of his daughter who didn't wanted Jane to find her killer, because it might be too hard to for him to handle the truth. 

Sure, Lorelei said something about a handshake, which would make the theory ridiculous, but if she was misleading Jane to give herself time to find Red John first, then perhaps we should look at her comparison " You are just like him" and you know what they say: "Like Father Like Son" "Apple doesn't fall far from the tree" and so on so forth.

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i'm sure i'm not the first loser to suggest this, but i'm gonna do it anyways.


this show is all about red herrings.  every single episode we are introduced to a handful of suspects for a murder mystery.  throughout the episode different ones are ruled out and others are made to look very guilty.  in the long run, it usually ends up being the least likely suspect, or even someone that wasn't even presented as a suspect in the first place.


so why would it be any different for RJ.  if heller wanted to give us 7 names to pick from, shouldn't we have taken the history of the show as a clue and automatically looked at those 7 as the least likely??  i mean the first few episodes of season 6 revolved around trying to make each of the 7 listed suspects seem guilty.  from irrational fears, to weird sacrificial ceremonies, to random whistling and quoting william blake, each of the 7 listed suspects were shoved in our face as being guilty.  so if you are going with the theme of the metalist, these 7 names should be eliminated as suspects simply because they were suggested so strongly.


i know stoopkid has been down this road and posted a theory on just about every character, director, or key grip that has had anything to do with the production of this show, but maybe we should step back and take a look at the "other" suspects.  frey, mashburn, ellis mars, the lady feeding pigeons, pike, roger at the bar, teresa's brother, rosalind, the pigeon........i know its a reach but i think a case could be made for just about anybody if the reveal came with a little background or explanation.

plus i think at this point we are just re-hashing old theories, so it's either get creative or start planning for 13 episodes of happy-go-lucky incestuous tear jerkers.

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i have avoided this one for a long time, but i really do think it warrants a deep thought.  i've seen a lot of tv/movies, and EVERY time that we as an audience are specifically told that someone is ASSUMED to be dead, but not PROVEN to be dead, that person ALWAYS turns out to be alive.


So if we are directly told to ASSUME that Micheal Kirkland is dead, then we must really ASSUME he is alive.  Is he RJ, possibly, or maybe an accomplice, or if RJ really did die, maybe his replacement.


Does he fit the profile of RJ???? 
Well his mama committed suicide and daddy was an abusive alcholic.  So mommy/daddy issues are there.  It is in his blood to torture as we witnessed his twin removing digits from suspects that wouldn't talk.  Could easily be a demented serial killer psychopath based on profiling.  Physical description and age seem to match the suggested details of the blind lady and shrink.


Are there significant clues pointing to him being RJ????
His brother was torturing people who he thought could lead him to RJ but he killed the one person that could lead him to RJ without even so much as removing a pinkie?  It would make a lot more sense for him to kill Lennon if he was Michael.  Bob would have questioned Lennon.
He, or Bob, was there from the beginning (meeting with Minelli in Red Dawn), even if via flashback episode.
The actor, Kevin Corrigan, was creepy as hell in the role of Bob so it would be great to see him back.
Michael could easily have used his borther's identity to get access to law enforcement stuff.


I am not completely sold, but this would go a ton further in making sense than Mcallister and the whole BA mess.  Even if they held firm with McAllister, this could bring back the angle and give him a legit sidekick to chase.  I just have to think this would be better than a season of poop and pacifier cases.


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Something that has ALWAYS bothered me big-time.
When Styles knew Kristina Freye was taken and then knew exactly where she was!
And when Jane asks how he gives a shit answer "i know more than you or red john will ever know".

But really how the F did he know yet have no idea who Rj is?
Someone had to of told him the info so who are they and so forth.
That always drove me crazy.
Freye in a empty house with a light staring at the wall.
Then Janes spirit trick worked and she talked to him.
SHE REMEMBERED WHO JANE WAS YET HAD NOO IDEA WHO RED JOHN WAS OR HOW SHE DIED??!!
Reality check: Styles didnt magically guess where Rj was
And Freye was fine and messing with everyone.
She is a con artist just like Jane and Styles.
All 3 of them are very similar.

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Im had to rewatch all the episodes and here is an interesting quote from S6 E07.
 
(Right after Lisbon and Jane questioned Smith about the BA.)

Libson: You believe him ?
Jane: He confessed a murder. Red John would never break like that, not even as an act.

Really interesting if you think the way McAllister acted at S6 E08. And that was 1 episode before S6 E08. 

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Hi!

I'm re-watching the show from season 2! (I've seen season 1 too many times..) 
I'm nostalgic, happy and sad at the same time! This show used to be the best of the best!

Normally I remember in each episode who the killer is but there are a couple of episodes where I forgot! It's so much fun to watch Patrick Jane when he is at his best, the screen comes alive when he is smiling and tricking people!

Ohhh, the good old days, I miss them so much!!
Amazing show at the beginning and it represents a time in our life when we had so much hope and everything was possible! Red John could have been anyone!!!

 I don't know what to say about season 6 but I'm happy I got to experience the first 5 seasons and be a part of the excitement! :) 

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What If There Is No More Red John?

Well, I exhausted all my good theories, but what if we reached the end of the fuse and Red John really was the Sheriff who saved Jane's life despite the danger of height, just to change his mind few days later and try to reunite him with his ill departed loved ones.
It's time we face that possibility and let our imagination run wild to what may become the most pedestrian ending to a TV show ever sanctioned for extended life span.

First, we jump in time 6 years ahead.
Lisbon is still with Jane (surprise, surprise. she is not with Marcus because then we would be scratching our heads to what the heck just happened, and she is not with a completely new face either, because that would be too creative for our simple comprehension... no, she is with Jane)... and they have a child.

It's a boy. 

No it's a girl.

Oh well, it doesn't really matter what it is, IT is healthy and that's all we can hope for an offspring conceived in a relationship between two siblings. It responds to John even though it's birth-certificate indicates Brett Thomas Ray Gale Bret Bob Reede Roy Jisbon. The red dress looks fabulous on the child's first day of pre-school.

When Lisbon arrives to pick up the her...ahem... pride and joy, she is immediately importuned by the teachers to assist them in solving a crime committed earlier at the day-care. Apparently, someone dipped few pacifiers.in shet. Lisbon not having a good day herself, brushes off the offer with; "Wait few days. Whoever's pacifier remains clean is the culprit." Although, her advice seemed logical, at the same time it was dismissed as a frustrating process for the day-care owner who seemed genuinely concerned over the law suits his enterprise may face in the process. Despite the proffer of substantial bribery, Lisbon was firm in her decision displaying no interest in changing her already hectic schedule for petty matters of no-no's like the one at the hand... or should we say at the mouth.

Jane, on the other hand jumped on the opportunity to postpone his overdue chores at his domestic nest, and willingly offered his superb investigation skills to solve the mystery of the day (care). All he asked for was a cob of corn and little bit of privacy. He shielded his frolicsome actions by turning his back to all the present until his plan was fully set in motion. Once completed the task, he lined up all the kids and fed them corn like farmers fed their gooses. Afterwards, he sent them away to drink some soda pop from the baby beakers already awaiting them in the lunch room. He prevented all the grown ups from following the kids into the establishment until a sharp scream from inside ended the awkward silence.

"Aha!"

Soon as they breached the premises, a child run towards them complaining that  someone shet in his juice. Jane, without startle, cautiously lifted the lid off of the cup and vigorously stirred the liquid full of an unknown dark matter, until the foreign substance dissolved leaving a single red kernel floating on the surface. It was time for Jane to reach into his memory box to recall the exact kid he fed that red kernel to... however, to everyone's disappointment... he drew blank.

Driving home, Lisbon without uttering any words of comfort will imply with smile from the corner of her eyes, that Jane has lost his touch. Patrick will smile back with slight embarrassment hiding his shame in reciprocal silence. Once home, Lisbon runs in the house to grab the ringing phone, before the unknown caller hangs up, while Jane turns to his child:
"Don't worry kiddo! This will remain our secret." 

Oh, you are probably wondering why Shettrick? Do I really have to spell "it" out?


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