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True enough, Rigsby is in the last few episodes, and thus the world will know what kind of a creep fuck serial killer he can portray on screen. HarvyHammer is wise in suggesting the great red dragon from this proper educated actor, Owain Yeoman. 
Rigsby has:
Daddy issues===
Women issues===
Self esteem issues===
friend/social issues===
A hidden past of humiliation where he was stripped and photographed by fellow students===
acrophobia===
profound out-of-character insight into the criminal mind shown to us on various occasions===
bizzare and unnatural respect for those that do not deserve respect.
One has to remember that Rigsby was questioned by LaRouche about the guy set on fire in the jail cell. No one ever confirmed it was Van Pelt's FBI football hero boyfriend. 
It's like this... Rigsby was a geek in school and was humiliated. He became a drug addict before joining Visualize (TV version of Scientology). Then, Rigsby becomes the great red dragon we all know as Red John and joins the bomb squad in San Diego and then later CBI where, coincidentally, Patrick Jane picks up his trail. The story from there is laid out before us. Red John is Rigsby, and Rigsby is merely the truth hidden in plain sight. No one makes fun of Red John, or they get dead! Think about it. 














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Just finished watching the Silver Briefcase on the CBS website.

Have to admit it was the best episode of season 7, but the fact I watched it on the CBS website is shows just how far this show has gone downhill for me.

There was a time I couldn't wait for The Mentalist to come on tv, now it's just meh, I'll catch it whenever there's time to kill during the week.

Honestly I don't care what happens now, the sooner the series ends, the better.

So why do I even watch it?  I guess it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, I already know nothing good can happen but I still can't look away.

I see from the comments, some people are still holding out for a coherent RJ wrap up.  That's ok, I really do understand your delusion, denial always comes before the first step to recovery. :-)

On a more merciful note, only a few more episodes left before we can all finally forget about what might have been and reluctantly accept the hidden pocket pigeon meets Lost reality of Heller.

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Any chance we ever get an answer to the whole vault, BA stuff?  So many things were not answered at all, you wonder why the scenes were even shot.  Still think Stiles will return, and we know Rigsby and Grace are in the last episodes, so I still have hope.  4-5 hours in 3 last episodes could wrap up a lot of questions in 6 weeks or so.  Would also be fine to see Madam Secretary and The Good Wife permanently preempted.

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The only hope for any of this to be decent is if the entire last episodes of Season 6 and all 13 episodes of Season 7 are a long con.  If the relationship is mostly a ruse to capture the real Red John or if Patrick himself is Red John then it will be worth it.  Mashburn, Minelli, or Partridge would all be excellent choices, or Stiles, if Grace is somehow involved.  The reason it won't happen is that Heller and Baker would have had to have the whole thing worked out before last season even started in order for all the pieces to fit.  Heller doesn't care about the show anymore.  Someone could see if CBS would give permission for a post-Mentalist book that gave a much better ending to the saga.   I have taped all the episodes this season but have only watched two.  I just cannot get into it like I was in Season 1-3 and even for parts of last season.  I thought it was going to tie back into the carnival and likely Patrick's dad, or at least have a sixth sense like reveal, but it didn't happen.  Expectations were too high, I guess.  There was really good writing and acting for more than 5 seasons, though.

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Guys, please allow me to explain what I feel about the show at the moment. 

First of all, I'm absolutely furious with Simon Baker and Robin Tunney. I read somewhere a long time ago that they feel awkward playing a couple in love. WTF?? This is their job, they get millions so: boo hoo, whether you feel awkward or not, just do it! It's your job. You are losing credibility as actors because your on screen romantic chemistry comes across as laughable and cringeworthy. Let me make a prediction, they will probably only kiss in the last episode of The Mentalist, and even that kiss will be like someone forced two random people to kiss. Pathetic, they are actors! Basically nothing has changed, they are still co workers who are friendly with each other, so what was the point of getting them together? 

I honestly think when this show is finished in a couple of months, Simon Baker can still save his career because most people wouldn't know the details of the crappy Mentalist ending. I don't want to be mean, but I didn't know Robin Tunney before and I doubt she will do anything meaningful after this show. 

I have to disagree with Stoopkid, this show is not great any more. Even if I've never watched it before and I joined now, I would think this show is an average, vanilla, "meh" show. Not good, not bad, just "meh", like Patrick Jane would say. Sad. The other day I watched series 4, episode 17 when Jane and agent Darcy go out of town and he confesses Red John is not dead yet. Those were amazing times, when everything seemed  possible! 

Thank you for listening. :)






 

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The Silver Briefcase was great imho. Flawless actually. Well, almost flawless. It only lacked a big red smiley face on a wall. Something that a few of us never stopped hoping for. I think that now is about the time to stop hoping.

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Wayne Rigsby is still Red John.------ GO BACK AND WATCH THE EPISODES WITH RIGSBY IN MIND. He is perfect.
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Also, the actor, Owain Yeoman, is the only actor on the show that could actually pull off a great red dragon (Royal Academy of Dramatic Art graduate). Keep in mind that Rigsby is all too eager to jump on people from second story buildings -- a true measure of an RJ trying to compensate for being acrophobic -- motivated only by a love for Grace. -----------------------Just look at the Rigsby's moments that are calm and reserved, that is, when Rigsby talks as a real person and not a drone in the CBI machine. He is a creepy muther fucker, and if the writers would only show Rigsby down in that red barn, we would have a wonderfully mind-bending end to the series.--------------------------- By-the-way, Bruno Heller is the only serial killer true fans know of to date. May Heller drag his tongue across my sweaty asshole. Happy Holidays! 



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