Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #18605 • By LungButter
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Ron casually strolls around CBI, but no one can really say what he is doing. I would suggest he was once a carnival freak with Jane and became Red John because of jealousy. Ron is all places at all times, and never has to inject himself into the drama or showmanship of CBI investigations. Clearly, Ron is Satan. Ron is Red John.
Has no one suggested that Ron likes to make his job easier? How else could Ron make his job easier than to get Patrick Jane to work for CBI. Is Ron not legend? Is he not wise? Is he not always smiling? 

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This is a "in defense of McAllister as RJ" post. I must admit I was as
disappointed as any of you when I first saw 6x8. I was literally yelling
at my computer and cursing BH. But I want to make the point that, just
because BH and the showrunners suck at explaining everything, doesn't mean that McAllister is any less suitable an RJ than the other candidates, given the available information.

There is a lot of grief over all
the little clues not being explained satisfactorily. But remember,
McAllister OFFERED to explain to Jane how he knew about the list, and
Jane didn't care. Why? Jane didn't care about the cleverness and the
tricks - it was purely emotional for him. So if you treat this as an
intellectual exercise to match up all the clues, you're missing the
point and are bound to be disappointed.

People are also upset
that McAllister is a common guy. All I'm saying is, he SEEMS like a
common guy but you have no idea who he really is or what he can do. That
is precisely why McAllister thinks he's so great - he holds so much
power but everyone thinks he's a random sheriff and is none the wiser.

- Who was in the suit sipping tea and using the computers?
Why
couldn't it have been McAllister? You think Stiles knew how to use
computers? The whole point is that you don't know anything about
McAllister besides the fact that his day job is being a sheriff. And
about the suit - if they had put McAllister in a suit in the RJ reveal,
this wouldn't be an issue. So it says nothing about McAllister as a
character being unsuitable as RJ.

- Who was capable of brainwashing/mind controlling people?
This
was semi-explained at the beginning of season 6. The way the Blake
Association operates is, no one knows who's in charge. When a member
cop/judge/politician etc. needs something done, they presumably pass
along the word and it gets executed by another member, without question.
So it seems like "brain washing" but it's really just unquestioned
obedience, like any other crime organization. A lot of the "impossible"
things RJ did become a lot more plausible if you have a whole state-wide
organization to carry out hits for you.

- He is MAR?
No idea, could be McAllisteR. Could be McAllister Redjohn. But again, people are just
mad because this clue wasn't explained. It doesn't make McAllister a
bad candidate for RJ.

- How does Stiles know about him?
I'm
sure there are BA members in Visualize (given how messed up the BA
members and Visualize members are), and they have to confess everything.
Based on previous clues, we also know RJ was a farmhand on a Visualize
farm at some point. By the way, this doesn't necessarily mean Stiles
knows who RJ is. He would just know about how the BA operates.

- Why no Visualize backstory?
Again, this is a choice by the showrunners. IT DOESN'T MAKE MCALLISTER A BAD RJ. IT JUST MEANS THE SHOWRUNNERS SUCK.

- Why would he spare Lisbon?
It's a game and RJ thought he was in control. Killing Lisbon might send Jane into a fit of rage, which would make him unpredictable.

- Kira Tinsley
RJ may not have killed Kira Tinsley - as you all have
pointed out, no smiley face, just strangulation, and the shadowy figure had hair. All you know about
Kira's killer is he was BA by the 3 dots. No one said he was RJ, they
just assumed, but maybe the whole purpose of Kira Tinsley was to give
them the 3 dot clue and bring them one step closer.

- How did RJ "kill" Kristina Frye?
Just
hypnotized her into believing she was dead. Maybe RJ did it, maybe
someone else in BA. We don't know. You are all assuming RJ is this
ubermensch with many talents, when it could just be different people in
the BA assigned to carry out different pieces of dirty work. Yes, the
entire BA thing is an unsatisfying cop-out, but again, it does not make McAllister an unsuitable RJ.

- Why did RJ chant Tiger Tiger if he was running it?
Again, it's a game. McAllister said in the chapel - it's a game, you played it well, you were fun and challenging. Of course he would drop some clues here and there, knowing that Jane would never find him.

- How did the sheriff run around killing people?
Again, BA does the dirty work of other BA members.

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What a fiasco, again again and again, this show is
the real turd ... Bruno Heller, u are a bloody stinky cunt and so the rest of writers (untalented losers by the way) ... what kind of job will this people get now that it's all over and done ? ... probably soaps and teen's movies ... again I must say : being a part of
"The Mentalist" will be a curse for 'em all ... they're all rotten ... careers' over ... a shame for Simon and Robin but hey ... they are both making tons of money doing this shite ... they should have had some input, ya know ? ... but NO ... while real fans felt ripped off by this crap they just moved on business as usual ... but hey, that's what they all are into it for ... $$$,$$$ ... shame on you actors(?) who can't even portray a real love and passionate relation ... bring back Lorelei and Mashburn, Rigsby and Van Pelt for a swingers party !!!! ... and yeah ... swear I won't watch this crap again.

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One thing we often forget it WHY Red john was called Red John?
Because he or she only killed Red Haired women early on in his serial killer career.
So i wish the show would explain why a serial killer broke his pattern?
Seemed like when Rigsby met Grace the red haired killings stopped.
But seriously tho, Rj went from a strict by the rules serial killer using black tape n all to just killing anyone any which way.
Like there was more than 1 red john!
And why all the sudden at the end Red John forgot how to slit necks?
Brett Partridge and Kira Tinsley? If Rj killed them right then Jane would of never found Macalister.
It takes a second to slit a neck too so no excuses!

The show needs to let us know if Red John was really a serial killer or just the Ba leader trying to cover up things.
Bc near the end Rj was not a serial killer at all, no smileys no black tape or specific victims, just random killings of people in his way.

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I'm down with the RJ=Rigsby idea. He did show many strange things about his personality in the show. It always stuck me weird that a big dude like that let so many people make fun of him. What did Rigsby mean when he threatened FBI O'laughlin? We assume Rigsby is trying to protect Grace, yet the threat is a little more... cryptic... than what one might expect. Just sayin. 

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Well, my thoughts are that Jane/jisbon has yet to decode the blake society list, and thus I am in favor of a Rigsby slasher ending to this lost television show. 
Anyone find it bizzare that Rigsby instantly knew where Jane buried his wife. The "Red John" S6 has Rigsby in the back of the truck stating clearly and without hesitation the exact name of the cemetary where Jane buried his wife. This is one strange thing among many strange things Rigsby does while in the back of the truck... calmly sitting the back of the truck. 
The only thing that makes me think that RZigsby is not RJ is the the blind lady says that RJ is under 6 foot tall. Rigsby is clearly over 6 feet. However, I do understand that RJ had many helpers. 
Oh Wait... Lorilie Martins also hits Rigsby over the head when she is going to kill her victim. Would Martins hit her beloved RJ over the head??? Methinks, not!
Aside from those two problems, Rigsby could easily be RJ.  


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Hmm…why do you think the final title is called "White Orchids?"

1) Jibson has to solve a crime in a greenhouse

2) Jibson stays at a hotel named The White Orchid Hotel

3) Jibson eats white orchid ice cream under a firework lit sky

4) it has absolutely no real significance whatsoever


With the way the episode titles have been in the last year, I vote for 4)



Who knows, maybe it'll be Lisbon's favorite flower!  or perfume scent!  [Oh that things we have to look forward to!]



THAT SAID….White Orchids symbolize hope and….[brace yourselves people]…virility…



Forget about a wedding -- this show might ending with…..a baby...



That's right people.  While this website dreams that Rigsby [or ANYONE else] could really be the "real" RJ [and believe me, I'm with you on that]….I'm sorry to say that the writers are probably writing the storyline for Lisbon's pregnancy RIGHT NOW...



1.  Grigsby will probably either be expecting again or now have two children, and/or


2.  Jisbon will likely be….[bleck]…expecting, too



Jane lost his wife and child…..so, now he's got the new love now…all he needs is the new child….and a baby is going to force Jibson to leave the FBI -- just like Grigsby did 


Sorry folks.  I don't like it either.  I hope I'm wrong

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