Who is Red John?

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This isn't really a guess on who RJ is at this point with what we know about him but more my views on the whole RJ thing and i thought i'd share them, i don't expect you to agree or disagree but just want to get it off my chest after 5 seasons... 

who RJ is? tbh, there is alot of poss's but all of them with questionable doubts...such as too old, not taller enough, too young, not charming enough etc the list goes on & on...

* If Rj turns out to be a group of killers calling themselves RJ then I will be a little disappointed as the last 4 seasons have shown us that RJ has a personal game going on with Jane & I quite like that aspect of the show it makes me belive in what Jane is trying to do more & achieve if it's that not a group of psychos out to get him.

* I don't believe RJ is a woman, all Rj minions refer to him as a he or him.  I also believe he has to be a man to charm all these women into his life (Roaslind, Rebecca, Lorelei).  I do believe that will be a woman working for RJ thou, maybe Grace or that Brenda woman, or maybe even that Kristine Fry woman was too, I never like her & felt she was so dodgy but I know it's along shot.  I do NOT BELIEVE TL is RJ or working for him.  She is the good balance in this show, she is the light to Janes dark.  A show like this needs her character and after all the stuff she has been thru & put up with for Jane, that's not evil thats love!

* I don't think Kirkland is RJ either or even working for him.  Not to say he ain't dodgy because he clearly is! but I slightly agree with the theory he is somehow connected to Lorelei/sister somehow or that he believes that Jane is actually RJ just like FBI Agent Darcy did. But i'm not really sure on this guy if im honest or what he angle is at the mo...but that's views for now.

* If Jane turns out to be RJ then I will be sooo angry & will prob write to Bruno Heller & ask for my money back on the dvd box set, that would truly be a rubbish conclusion to the show & I would hope that the writers would be more original than that idea, it has already been done in fight club & would hope they wouldn't copy others idea.  Also if they Kill Jane off that will also be a rubbish conclusion & would show RJ won in the end!  Jane is suppose to a very highly inteliigent guy who can outsmart 99% of people & so want to see a very clever way of how Jane kills & get RJ in the end. Not his death...

* I really really hope the season finale is good & we get to see Janes 7 Suspect list... my guess is Brett Stiles, Partridge, Mashburn, Haffner, Kirkland for starts...

so that's my views on it, just needed to share after 5 series of keeping it all bottled in.  If i had to take a guess at who RJ, had too i would say either Walter Mashburn ( seems bit obvious to me but he is rich powerful ladies man connected & he slept with TL just add salt to Janes open cut) or that Max Winter guy (he was very simular to Jane in how he sat, acted, gentleman like & his own revenge quest for his murdered wife? plus his gun as a gift to Jane it all seemed to be too much of a concidence & as Patrick Jane always says there are no concidences....

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Someone on here was like i wish i knew what was in JJ box , a week or two ago well the next episode on the 27th we are going to find out. His box gets stolen and Patrick helps him get it back Lol

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Theory #2319 • By Sualocin
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starting it streght ahead its about the nacklace & Profiler series references, if Red John was a Member of the group visualize, then maybe in the introduction-episode of Rosa-lind  You see that she have a nacklace on & somhow i think on its is the sign of visualize, also the blindless & even from a symbolic point of view  ther is such a darkness behind her, also the Red John sign is very contradictionary-amblivalent, yeah dialectic its a happy face but because of  floatinng down its gets a touch of tears on eyes which express sadnes, so Red John have interest in this , &  as female if thinking from start a female because of nature is so much capitvated & attracted by Jane & like many before said it would be fantastic to throw away all attention to that male-cantide  & this remind me realy on the case of  Jack & Sametha in Profiler, funny its like if like so to speak translatet or the director & story designer finded this relation very fascinating, Patrick blond in hair & she Red only that this time the Serial-kiler is female & the profiler is male, also the case with the lose family, so many referencec to the series profiler, somhow i think its much intented not only because necassasery crosing of topic-field but the director where very captivated @ this specific history, only what real backround could she have an ex-Profiler && wouldnt it be genious to make this outcome, only the expression of motivation Red John have & toward Patrick Jane is keeped very minimalistic(soulmates), where in Profiler it was very exposed, ah would be greate imu if  Patrick tries to understand more Why Red John choose Rosa-lind(soft, isnt expressed in the smile sign softness & also isnt the Bach music soft) & hark-er(listen)& so spending more time with her & discovering his likening to her & then after she reveals, he start  in joyfull tears crying & happy killing her & she not oposing  & paintig the same smile sign Red John used,on wall above her, CBI coming in & taking him down & all members shoked, yeah what a scene he playing piano the bach music & Rosalind laing on bad  with Sign the Joyfull Smile above her or, Lisbon sees Patrick playing piano, shouding on him but he ist decoupeld an then she goes in room & shocked& start to cry & is showed the sign with rosalind & this end of  ;), this would be a very dark turn but would shown all the Sadness Patrick allways carried  in him besides his gentle & nice appearance & make  put light on all his action ever done, that like he coverd & persuid all time only revange & self-guild & hates toward his arogance cause somehow dead && that would be something

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I am worried it will be someone we have not been exposed to, or we were exposed to only briefly.  In other words: a no one.

OR Red John won't be a person, per se.  But a group of people who a;; claim to be Red John, maybe so if one is captured the work can continue, so Red John's followers can all say they met Red John, but not the same one (and they wouldn't know that).

Personally, I would love it to be Jane's father or Van Pelt's father. 

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Excuse me, I don't speak English! I find  incomprehensible that the "favorite" to be Red John is Partridge. He doesn't have the characteristic attributed to Red John. No money ( is a simple forensic) or  attractiveness (RJ  seduce beautiful women as Lorelei and her sister) or charisma,he seems the typical freak of classe.You can say that he's acting but characters as Minnelli, Mashburn, Winter or even Mars fit better.

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the most probable 3 candidates are kirkland,partridge and mashburn and maybe the forth stiles , but i always had a hunch like jane that rj is sheriff mcallister, whom appeared in season1

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I think Red John is a syndicate - possibly linked to the poker group that Lisbon has been invited too. The fact that Red John is always one step ahead of the authorities, always seems to be well informed (think when he rescues Jane from students and other occasions) obviously has money and connections (think FBI mole in Crimson Hat) and has been able to murder with impunity all these years. I think there is a Red John who may be Bertram or Brett Partridge who originated at Visualize who is the lead actor but only many different Red Johns would be able to pull off and get away with these various crimes and schemes.

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