Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I have a habit of over-thinking things on occasion so please tell me if I'm doing just that.
First of all I'd like to say I dislike the Ellis Mars theory because he doesn't seem superior to Jane in anyway, isn't charismatic and is quite repulsing. I also don't think the actor could possibly pull off such a powerful character as Red John even though he was excellent at portraying Mars the way he did. But I can't help see certain clues such as the little tiger on his business card, the Elliston farm. Also, there is a crater on Mars that looks similar to a Red John face - google 'Galle Crater on Mars.'
Also, mars is also known as the red star.
'Tiger tiger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night...'
The forests of the night could be defined as the sky and Mars is what is burning bright. Far fetched? Quite possibly. 

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Theory #2444 • By Repleettinng
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Tommy Volker was in The Mentalist to show how untouchable a powerful man is , That is what i believe but at the end Volker had no one to help him get the dirty work done so that is what got him caught Red John on the other hand is a master manipulator he will always have someone to do the dirty work to make sure he is clean so even if Jane finds out who his is there will be no way to prove it to a court. 



  My theory  - Jane finds out who Red John is Lisbon tells Jane if he kills Red John she will lose him forever and she doesn't want to lose him the is no to convict Red John so the only way for Jane to stop him is to kill him at the Jane will have to choose Lisbon or Red John 

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I think Kristina Frye is the only character who had shown mental superiority to Patrick Jane (season I). Then they make her the victim (she is strong enough to act like she's crazy so people forget about her and she is categorized as a victim). She has disappeared for a very long time and nobody knows about her or what she's doing ... this seems very strange...  All in all I think she is the only character who had shown the mental strenght to overpower jane and she visibly likes to manipulate and humiliate him. I think she has what's needed.

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SparkedIntoLife > Actually, that's funny ! I made the whole same investigation as you did there ! I swear !
But there is one thing, and only one, that I found different : Osvaldo Ardiles isn't under 5'5 foot tall. Actually he is ... 5.9 foot tall. Yeah, you're not mistaken, and that fact changes a lot of consequences.

Ardiles has the average build of Red John. He has short, straight hair like Rosalind said.

Here are ALL the criterias shown all along the show (I think I didn't miss anything, and no judgement in those) :

Shown on the screen : Red John drinks tea, and holds his cup of tea with the left hand. He is "sophisticated".

Haley said : Red John is a white guy, had a baseball cap and and an odd voice.

Rosalind Harker : Red John is just under 6 foot tall (fits perfectly Ardiles), average build, short and straight hair, gentle voice. He smelt earth most of the time and liked to listen to her playing piano.

Patrick Jane : Red John considers himself as a showman, an artist. He has a strong sense of theater. He doesn't like losing, nor when someone is mocking him. He is meticulous and don't make mistakes. If you have a clue, it's because he gave it to you intentionally.

Lorelei Martins : Red John is a manipulator and charismatic (which would kind of eliminate Bret Partridge of the suspects for me ... well).

Red John himself : Has a friend in the FBI (didn't say he was himself in the FBI). Hates poor imitations of his work. Isn't religious.

Following those criterias, from the 30 suspects list, 6 only may stay suspects :
Paul Fricke (I didn't see you mention him at all) ; Robert Kirkland ; Dr. Royston Daniel ; Ray Faffner (average height) ; Richard Haibach (same here) ; Osvaldo Ardiles.

Why did I rule out Bret Partridge, even though he fits almost all the criterias ? Because he isn't charismatic at all (unlike the description of Red John by his fidels), doesn't seem to be hard to read for Jane, likes too much his work, is an evident suspect that the producers would like us to believe of, doesn't leave the memory of someone powerful, someone that terrifies us, someone that we would fear till the end.

I don't think it would be a good thing if we remembered of Red John as someone who has already lost to anyone and needed help before in the show. For that reason, I guess we can rule out Paul Fricke (who needs the help and money of women to live) ;
Dr. Royston Daniel (was going to be killed by some average woman, couldn't expect that Jane would come to help and, when it turned out they didn't stand a chance, it was Jane who found how to wake up Rigsby, not Royston Daniel. Would he really accept the fact that he lost pitifully against Jane already in his chosen field ? No.) ;
Ray Haffner (Jane only needed a few hours to ruin his authority in his team and dismantle the team along. Haffner had to concede that Jane is smarter than him, which would never accept Red John. Haffner made a simple mistake when talking about Visualize to Lisbon, Red John wouldn't do it.) ;
Richard Haibach (Red John wouldn't be this aggressive with the cops, wouldn't let Lisbon arrest him like that without a vengeance, and wouldn't let anyone know so easily about his secret activities (photography of people without them knowing it).

(By the way, Glen Snow can't be Red John anyways because Haley, the little girl with the smiley drawn on her hand, said Red John was a white man).

That let us with ... Only 2 suspects ! Robert Kirkland and Osvaldo Ardiles !
But we know Kirkland is an obvious suspect that was introduced to make us be unaware of what happened juste next to him. I think it would be a real disappointment if, after hidding Red John so well during the show, the producers just let him appear at the end of and episode like that. He could be only a Red John complice (wouldn't be very interesting actually, but we don't know yet) OR someone that wants to find Red John ! I hope it's the second option !
Kirkland being ruled out, only one name remains ... Osvaldo Ardiles ! I can't find any proof to tell he isn't Red John actually. He has always been a calm-minded guy, doesn't let Jane overwhelm him, stays safe from all the tricks. We don't know enough of his personal life. I believe it will be really interesting.

What do you think about it guys ?

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I've thought that it was Laroche for a while now.
First, his name, Laroche, always makes me think of Le Rouge, "The Red" in french. But the last chapter made it pretty clear to me when he asked Jane whether he thought of him as a friend and he didn't answer.

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Well we all know that there will be 7 suspect revealed...and shortly I would like to guess these 7 names:

-Osvaldo Ardilles
-Brett Pattridge
-Gale Bertram
-Robert Kirkland
-Ellis Mars
-Ray Haffner
-Walter Mashburn

Ardilless:
he is not really so much interesting, he is just a lawyer. But there are two reasons why I choose him: Cut Iron->In Court and a very special hint from the writers, that we should look for the anagrams, and Red sails in the sunset is an anagram for Hunt Ardilles,its seen.

Brett Pattridge:
He fits all the descriptions and is very known for investigating Red John cases. He appeared in the Pilot and in the finale of season 2. I wouldn't bet for him being RJ, but it's possible, since he and Jane hate each other and for the mirror scene in Red Sky in The Morning.

Gale Bertram:
We all know who he is but I believe most of you don't believe he is RJ because of Poker. I agree. but the most important thing, which I believe shouldn't be forgotten is:-He cares a lot about media(LIKE RED JOHN?) and the most interesting scene in the series : season 3 finale. when Jane meets him at the Mall, Jane, Gale, Rigsby and Cho are the only ones that know they will meet there. so how would RJ know that? Gale is RJ... Red John had to guide Jane to solve the puzzle, so he said at the end of the rope...interesting? yeah

Ellis Mars:
My personal guess because of the psychic thingy. The show writer said that the season 5 finale will turn the hunt for Red John in a new way and since it's at a carnival it's completely logical, since Mars is a psychic. Weird scene was, when he knew about Jane's tragedy and Tiger burning bright "card". it's either he is red john or he is accually a psychic, which is less possible.

Bob Kirkland:
Many people ruled him out since the hunt scene, where its shown that he has a same board as Jane, but bigger. There are 2 options:Either he is hunting Red John, either he is Red John and has a such desk for Jane. I would believe he was RJ if writers wouldn't make it so obvious.

Ray Haffner:
Interesting since Red Barn, but i would like to mention the fact, that he admited that Jane is smarter than him...RJ wouldn't.

Walter Mashburn:
He is "friends" with Jane and a former lover with Lisbon. it would be interesting seeing him being RJ and telling that him and Lisbon had sex, but he doesn't really fit the smart guy appearance. he is just rich.

My guess:
Ellis Mars:35%
Gale Bertram:30%
Kirkland:20%
Pattridge:10%
Haffner:2%
Mashburn:2%
Ardilless:1%


Important clues that everyone has to think about:
-Bret knowing about Rosalind.
-Gale/Jane scene at the mall
-RJ is a showman,puppet,mentalist,...
-Lorelei storyline
-Friend in the FBI
-Relationship with Jane
-Carnival thingy(Lorelei,season 5 finale), Hates pyschics
-Tyger, Tyger song

everytime a knew RJ fact comes out i get more confused ;/

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