Who is Red John?

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Ray Haffner
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Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
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Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
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My opinion - No one is going to get a tape measure out and measure anyone's height. Nor will they reference anyone's imdb page for height. Walter Mashburn being "too tall" is moot. The description of RJ was made before a lot of these actors were cast for their episodes - and I think once they found their perfect Red John actor, height went out the window. He is my #1 pick - I think it would play out fabulously.

I also think it is worth mentioning that our previous encounters with Red John, whether his voice, his arm, his silhouette, we're likely done by random actors - not the actor who will turn out to be Red John. Much like in the movie Scream. So making any comparisons there is likely worthless.

I want to think age - as established in the Red Barn episode - is a clue we can rely on. That eliminates a few suspects. But with all the acts by RJ followers, I'm not sure what to believe. And I guess that's half the fun!

It's amazing in rewatching episodes how many clues you can find for just about all of the suspects! And there are some great theories here as well!


My list of 7:

Walter Mashburn
Tommy Volker
Ellis Mars
Dean Harken
Virgil Minelli
Max Winter
Brett Partridge (hope it's not him - was torn between him and Haffner to round out my list)


One more thought to add...I feel like having a connection to Lisbon would be something RJ would get a kick out of. Anytime a character has shown a special interest in her, it has been a red flag for me.

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Theory #2500 • By LORELEI
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Lorelei is still alive!

Here is what Bruno Heller had to say when asked about Emmanuelle Chriqui reprising her role as Lorelei Martins for the season finale:

"It's not a flashback, a typo or a mystical thing, you'll have to work out what other alternatives are left. It's a surprise, and it's a good one."

I don't see how this could work though?


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no theory here, but I just read that Lorelei is NOT dead, she will be in tomorrow night's episode!!  Red John remains a step ahead of Jane...but the list WILL be down to 7 real suspects.  Bruno said no more twists, just facts after this.  No fake red johns, we will know his name in the finale!

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I think Red John is JJ Laroche. A lot hints to him. The name JJ Laroche may come from french laroche-la rouge, Red John. even Pruitt Taylor Vince the actor who portraits JJ is born in Baton Rouge....red again. 
He is smart,mysterious, sadistic, he has a high rank who give him access to all CBI cases, he shook hands with Jane,but they are not friends,jane hesitate to answer. And in the end Scott Sanay said red john..

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The Seven Suspects from Patrick Jane's list :

1 : Virgil Minelli 
2: Gale Bertram 
3: Brett Partridge 
4: Dean Harken 
5: Walter Mashburn 
6: Paul Fricke 
7: Dr. Royston Daniel

If it would be possible I would bet all my money for this list, I am pretty sure this is Jane's list.
Anyway...i am not 100% certain about the number 7 suspect, but i am 100% sure about the first six ones :) .

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After last night's episode I now think JJ is Red John. Aside from all the other clues mentioned here I think it was significant that the prisoner they interviewed said he was too afraid to upset the guy who owned the Tupperware box. Even though it's pretty creepy that JJ would cut out the guy's tongue and keep it, the prisoner seemed much too scared of the box's owner if that was all  there was to it.

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After we learned
that Roy Tagliaferro is Red John (Red John's Footsteps episode), who is
described by Rosalind (Roy's lover) as just under six feet tall, it's
kinda hard for me to think he can actually be a taller person. It's been almost
4 seasons since Rosalind's description, and so far it hasn't been contradicted
nor changed, we even got reconfirmed in season 5 that Roy truly is Red John.
However, if his height description gets changed, if we learn that he is
actually taller, then everyone would know he is Mashburn, which would be easy
and obvious. So, I take this just under six feet tall as true fact. It's the best
way because it fits greater number of  suspects.



About hair. Well,
someone can't change his height, but for sure can change his hair style. Nevertheless,
I really doubt Red John is completely bald.


We also learned
Red John is white (remember little girl in Red Rover, Red rover episode)
and that he is somewhere between 40-55 years old ( Patrick said he would
be max 30 in 1988, The Red Barn episode).


 

I don't know who
Red John really is, but he MUST fulfil the description above, otherwise it
would be a major audiance cheating, a total waste of time.

 



It's written like
this ''He IS Mar/n...''. Personally, I believe Red John wrote this. He is
probably the smartest, most cautious and meticulous serial killer I've ever
seen on television. I don't believe he would have ever left his victim alive by
mistake, he would make sure first they are really dead dead and then leave. It's
probably just a scribble to mess with Patrick (audience) or maybe even some
sort of an anagram.

 



Some people say
he is left-handed. Why? Just because in one scene he held tea cup with his left
hand? We've seen Red John holding gun and shooting with his right hand which is
harder evidence he is actually right-handed. Patrick is also right-handed and I
remember him holding his tea cup with left hand once (check Red Sky at Night).

 



Out of all 30
suspects, I believe he is someone we don't know much about, someone we know
only about his regular job maybe, but not too much about his background, family
etc.
For example,
people like Mars, Harken, Partridge etc. are all great suspects, but people
like Max Winter (who was heavily exposed in that episode - we get to know about
his family, we saw his son) are unlikely for me. I doubt we would have let seen
real Red John's weak side.

 


OK, now I'm going
to try to eliminate just some of the famous names. (you can eliminate many
others because they don't fit age, aren't white or they are in jail)

 



BRET STILES – too
old and just because he is the leader of the only mysterious cult in the show
it doesn't need to mean he must be Red John, that would be too obvious, too
easy.


VIRGIL MINELLI –
too old, simple as that. He also can't be because in episode Red John's Friends
he was in CBI headquarters (Sacramento) with Patrick and rest of the Lisbon's
team (even CBI Ron was present with them) when Jared Renfrew (Tijuana, Mexico)
called Patrick on the phone. And as soon as they found out his location, when
they got there, Jared was already dead so none of them would have enough time
to go there and kill him. I would be really disappointed to see him among 7
suspects.


GALE BERTRAM – he
is too tall, like Mashburn, and yes, bald. Anyways, I do consider he might be
working for Red John, nothing else.


ROBERT
KIRKLAND – the guy who shook Patrick's hand, he must be Red John then! Please,
he was brought in the show pretty late, was in all fishy scenes, they wanted us
to think it's him. Too obvious. I must admitt that I'm confused with his true
agenda, sometimes I think he works for Red John (killing that guy in hospital
to proect Red John's identity?), and sometimes I think he is on a quest to
pursue Red John himself, something personal maybe (using his position in Homeland
to keep on track with CBI about the case).


RAY
HAFFNER – I guess he fits the description, like Kirkland, but I believe he
isn't Red John. The way he was brought in The Red Barn episode was so obvious,
like they served Red John already to everyone. I think they just wanted us to
think is it him, is it him? Red John's true identity won't be unveiled till
last moment of the show.


GABE
MANCINI – he works for FBI. If Red John is working in FBI he wouldn't need a
friend inside FBI to find out about Patrick's secret plan in The Crimson Hat,
he would know it himself then. I believe Darcy was that ''FBI friend'', though
I don't know whether she gave the info to real Red John knowingly or
unknowingly that he is Red John.


DR.
ROYSTON DANIEL – He fits the description and I understand why many think he is
Red John. It would be explained how Red John has a such huge impact on his
followers, via hypnosis. But, his name is Royston, and one of Red John's
aliasis is Roy. I really doubt he would expose himself to people like that, no
chance.

 


Now that
I eliminated some, here is how my list of suspects looks like ( but I really
doubt it would be any similar to Patrick's)

Dean
Harken,



Paul
Fricke,


Brett
Partridge,



Ellis
Mars,



Tolman
Bunting,



Osvaldo
Ardiles


and
maybe Vint Molinari, I'm not certain of his age part, but since it's
seven suspects I choose him.


 



Eventhough
I think Mashburn can't be Red John (too tall, plus why would a billionaire be a
serial killer? It doesn't make any sense) I do believe he will be in Patrick's
shortlist since many fans suspect him, just to make everyone happy.

 



If I had
to choose someone, I would go for Brett Partridge. That mirror scene
in Red Sky in the Morning is such a subtle way to show he really is, I would
never have spotted it if I didn't read it on internet. Episode could have gone
easily without Patrick returning to room to surprise Brett, but they chose to
show it. (and later, as a counter, we saw Red John did the same to Patrick)

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