Who is Red John?

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Reede Smith
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Ray Haffner
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Gale Bertram
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Brett Partridge
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Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
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It is 100% not Jane and your a idoit a moron you have the IQ of a rock if you think other wise. He is not old enough, he received a phone call from Red John, he was in a mental facility for god sakes

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my seven suspects are 

1.Brett Partridge
2.Dean Harker
3.Max Winter
4.Ray Haffner
5.Dr Royston Daniel
6.Dr Linus Wagner
7.Gale Bertram

thanks :)

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The show has provided the fans with 30 contenders for the
seven spots in the May 5th season finale. Though I think the Seven
will inevitably contain fan favorites like LaRoche, Partridge, Bret Stiles,
etc., it may be possible to narrow it down even further. We already know (or
think we know) some things about Red John from Lorelei and Rosalind Harker, but
it’s probably more effective to first apply some common logic.

 



The most concrete thing we know about Red John is that he
has a whole cult of personality, largely female, doing his dirty work. So we
know Red John must be:

 



1.    
Charismatic – people have to be WILLING to
follow him, even enthusiastic about it



2.    
Well-Connected – Red John has his people in
various positions of power including the FBI, Homeland Security (maybe), within
the CBI, possibly inside Visualize, etc.



3.    
Somewhat Attractive – this is solely a
superficial observation, but most of the women who work for Red John like
Lorelei, Rebecca, Timothy Carter’s wife, etc. all describe Red John as the
master of their hearts, or some equivalent verbiage.


4.    
Wealthy – Red John obviously has unlimited
resources as he is able to get to locations immediately (Jane’s house, Panzer’s
murder workshop, Kristina Frye’s house, the hotel room in Mexico), owns
property, has surveillance equipment, bought sky-writing services, etc.


 


So when we turn to the 30 potential suspects that the
Mentalist writers have identified we see the field is cut down significantly.
We must ask ourselves, which suspects fit the above criteria? The obvious
candidates are Bret Stiles, Walter Mashburn, Tommy Volker, and Dr. Royston
Daniel. Gabe Mancini and Robert Kirkland might be able to sneak in to the line
up but nothing is really known about how wealthy they are and Kirkland is
anything but charismatic.

 



Several of the more popular choices are eliminated,
including Brett Partridge. It’s arguable whether Brett is the appropriate age
for Red John (over 40), but the fact is he’s simply creepy, not a killer. He
doesn’t appear to be the type who would be charismatic, attractive, wealthy, or
well connected. And he is in direct violation of the idea put forth by Lorelei,
that he should have been Jane’s friend from the start. Jane hates him, and Jane
is not morbid or ghoulish.

 



Now to look at the reduced list of suspects:

 


Bret Stiles – I think it’s arguable that Bret and Jane are
actually friends, even if it is a weird and stilted relationship. We know Bret
is capable of murder and that he fits all of the other criteria. However, this
is simply too obvious. We know that Red John is or was a member of Visualize at
least in 1988. And we also know that Bret was able to provide Kristina Frye’s
whereabouts, leading the audience to think that he either is in contact with
Red John, or he has access to his confessions. I find it hard to believe that
Bret would be slumming with any of the known associates of Red John like Todd
Johnson, Rebecca, Dumar Tanner, Rosalind Harker, etc.

 



Walter Mashburn – Walter, too, fits all of the criteria
above. Personally I hope it isn’t him, mostly because I love his character.
Walter seems to be a little too relaxed and devil-may-care to take the time to
plot murders and run an entire syndicate of minions. Plus there is no evidence
linking him to Visualize, yet.

 



Tommy Volker – He too fits all the criteria, and we know he
runs a whole cult of personality. However given that there was an entire
storyline dedicated to his crimes, and that the Red John crimes are continuing
even after he is in jail/prison, this makes him unlikely. (Coincidentally this
is also the reason I don’t believe it’s Dr. Linus Wagner . . . he’s been in
jail since episode one of the series – though he’s creepy and his voice might
fit.)

 



Dr. Royston Daniel – This is my choice for Red John. He is
charismatic, and already runs his own semi-cult with the NLP group. He is
capable of hypnotizing people, and training people to hypnotize other people.
He already hypnotized someone into pretending to be him (the audience member at
the beginning of his lecture) and could have easily done this to Timothy
Carter. We also see that he has women fighting and killing for his affections.
He is attractive, he is wealthy, and he is likely well connected since he
trains people on how to become more effective at their jobs, etc. Plus he fits
Rosalind Harker’s description as far as hair and height.  There are also additional reasons to believe
it’s him: 1) his name is Royston (Roy Tagliaferro), 2) he identifies as a
Doctor, though likely a PhD – like Dr. Joe NH, 3) his initials are RD, unknown
middle name, possibly “ReD”; 4) he is British therefore drinks tea (we see Roy
Tagliaferro drinking tea with Rosalind); 5) like Jane, he is capable of mind
control through hypnotism. I don’t think his accent or lack of the creepy
Red-John-voice is dispositive, as anyone can disguise a voice/accent.







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My opinion - No one is going to get a tape measure out and measure anyone's height. Nor will they reference anyone's imdb page for height. Walter Mashburn being "too tall" is moot. The description of RJ was made before a lot of these actors were cast for their episodes - and I think once they found their perfect Red John actor, height went out the window. He is my #1 pick - I think it would play out fabulously.

I also think it is worth mentioning that our previous encounters with Red John, whether his voice, his arm, his silhouette, we're likely done by random actors - not the actor who will turn out to be Red John. Much like in the movie Scream. So making any comparisons there is likely worthless.

I want to think age - as established in the Red Barn episode - is a clue we can rely on. That eliminates a few suspects. But with all the acts by RJ followers, I'm not sure what to believe. And I guess that's half the fun!

It's amazing in rewatching episodes how many clues you can find for just about all of the suspects! And there are some great theories here as well!


My list of 7:

Walter Mashburn
Tommy Volker
Ellis Mars
Dean Harken
Virgil Minelli
Max Winter
Brett Partridge (hope it's not him - was torn between him and Haffner to round out my list)


One more thought to add...I feel like having a connection to Lisbon would be something RJ would get a kick out of. Anytime a character has shown a special interest in her, it has been a red flag for me.

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Theory #2500 • By LORELEI
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Lorelei is still alive!

Here is what Bruno Heller had to say when asked about Emmanuelle Chriqui reprising her role as Lorelei Martins for the season finale:

"It's not a flashback, a typo or a mystical thing, you'll have to work out what other alternatives are left. It's a surprise, and it's a good one."

I don't see how this could work though?


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no theory here, but I just read that Lorelei is NOT dead, she will be in tomorrow night's episode!!  Red John remains a step ahead of Jane...but the list WILL be down to 7 real suspects.  Bruno said no more twists, just facts after this.  No fake red johns, we will know his name in the finale!

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I think Red John is JJ Laroche. A lot hints to him. The name JJ Laroche may come from french laroche-la rouge, Red John. even Pruitt Taylor Vince the actor who portraits JJ is born in Baton Rouge....red again. 
He is smart,mysterious, sadistic, he has a high rank who give him access to all CBI cases, he shook hands with Jane,but they are not friends,jane hesitate to answer. And in the end Scott Sanay said red john..

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