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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Theory #2508 • By Kyle
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My analysis of the 30 suspects:
Bret Stiles - friend of Jane, therefore no
Don Henderson - too limited a "network"
Dean Harken - possibility but work with virus' probably means no
Asher Maclean - no
Gale - i doubt its someone within CBI
Doc Dugan - no
Judge Manchester - has network, fits other explanations, and "is ma-"
Paul Fricke - possibly with the sexual language used about Red John's fascination with Jane, but likely no
Glen Snow - we know RJ is Caucasian.
Donny Culpeper - that "arc" resolved

Out of set 1: Manchester

Markham Shankar - not Caucasian, but "ma-" and fascination with death stuff makes him intriguing
Mancini - a possibility
Kirkland - up to no good, but a red herring i think
Max Winter - possibility with network to back him up
McAlister - not a large enough network
mashburn - possibly
volker - no
partridge - possibly
Jason cooper - possibly but the "failed coup" doesn't seem very RJ-like
Ellis Mars - interesting option but doubtful


Group 2: Mancini, mashburn, patridge

Dr. Linus - possibly but doubtful
haffner - a red herring but related to Visualize?
Bunting - computer skills but not much else to connect
Royston daniel - possibly, computer skills, network might be there, roy is a bit obvious though
reede- unlikely
JJ Laroche - not on the list
Minelli - someone more calcuating
molinari - eh
Ardiles - not white
baihach - interesting possibility

Set 3:Haibach, Daniel

So here are 6 candidates: Haibach, Daniel, mancini, mashburn, partridge, manchester

Mashburn has potential but I'll say Manchester has the better odds with his connections. If its Mashburn the sexual stuff between RJ and Jane makes more sense as a way to get to Lisbon.

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While my little RJ investigation i found William blakes painting called "a brace of partridge". There are two partridges shown and thats why i thought for a short moment: can there be a Brother of Brett partridge who wie know with another Name? Thats maybe the reason why partridge has that Similarities to RJ (his brother) and why heller makes it a Kind of obvious.

Kept that unlikely thought in mind i was looking all Old episodes with the 30 cbs suspects. And i discovered something interesting. Watch the Episode with royston Daniel and wait for the scene when Jane is in Daniels Office. He grabs a Book with a picture of Daniel on it. And incidentally he says something like: "its a very old picture of you, isnt it?" stop that scene and compare that picture with One if partrdige. Ouh i think Dr. ROYston Daniel is RJ!

Wish you a Good Time and an succesfully search for red john. Sorry for my poor english

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Who's excited for tonight???? I can't frigging wait!!!!!

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Impossible to be red john:
Cho
Rigsby
Van Pelt
Lisbon
Jane
Virgil Minelli

Possible but very unlikely:
Alexa Shultz
Gabe Mancini
Juniper Tolliver
Judge Manchester
Brett Stiles
Jason Cooper
Ellis Mars
Gale Bertrand
Agent Darcy
Royston Daniels
Rosalind Harker
JJ LaRoche
Hightower
Vint Molinari
Brenda Shettrick
Jane's dad
Tommy Lisbon
Amos Van Pelt

50/50:
Kristina Frye
CBI Ron
Brett Partridge
Walter Mashburn

Strong Suspects:
Bob Kirkland
Ray Haffner
Oscar Ardilles
Someone from Jane's past carnival life (e.g. twin brother)

According to the description given by rosalind harker,(just under 6 ft, average build, short straight hair) we can probably rule out walter mashburn, kristina frye (atho I do think she is BSing). Also, I think Brett Patridge and CBI Ron do not have the personality/attitude to be red john. We mgiht also rule out Oscar Ardilles for being too short but I am not sure about his exact height.

Hence my top suspects are Ray Haffer, Bob Kirkland (altho he might be too obvious) or someone from jane's past life like a twin brother (season 5 finale will feature people from jane's past so I think the writers of the show may be trying to create a connection here)

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It is 100% not Jane and your a idoit a moron you have the IQ of a rock if you think other wise. He is not old enough, he received a phone call from Red John, he was in a mental facility for god sakes

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my seven suspects are 

1.Brett Partridge
2.Dean Harker
3.Max Winter
4.Ray Haffner
5.Dr Royston Daniel
6.Dr Linus Wagner
7.Gale Bertram

thanks :)

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The show has provided the fans with 30 contenders for the
seven spots in the May 5th season finale. Though I think the Seven
will inevitably contain fan favorites like LaRoche, Partridge, Bret Stiles,
etc., it may be possible to narrow it down even further. We already know (or
think we know) some things about Red John from Lorelei and Rosalind Harker, but
it’s probably more effective to first apply some common logic.

 



The most concrete thing we know about Red John is that he
has a whole cult of personality, largely female, doing his dirty work. So we
know Red John must be:

 



1.    
Charismatic – people have to be WILLING to
follow him, even enthusiastic about it



2.    
Well-Connected – Red John has his people in
various positions of power including the FBI, Homeland Security (maybe), within
the CBI, possibly inside Visualize, etc.



3.    
Somewhat Attractive – this is solely a
superficial observation, but most of the women who work for Red John like
Lorelei, Rebecca, Timothy Carter’s wife, etc. all describe Red John as the
master of their hearts, or some equivalent verbiage.


4.    
Wealthy – Red John obviously has unlimited
resources as he is able to get to locations immediately (Jane’s house, Panzer’s
murder workshop, Kristina Frye’s house, the hotel room in Mexico), owns
property, has surveillance equipment, bought sky-writing services, etc.


 


So when we turn to the 30 potential suspects that the
Mentalist writers have identified we see the field is cut down significantly.
We must ask ourselves, which suspects fit the above criteria? The obvious
candidates are Bret Stiles, Walter Mashburn, Tommy Volker, and Dr. Royston
Daniel. Gabe Mancini and Robert Kirkland might be able to sneak in to the line
up but nothing is really known about how wealthy they are and Kirkland is
anything but charismatic.

 



Several of the more popular choices are eliminated,
including Brett Partridge. It’s arguable whether Brett is the appropriate age
for Red John (over 40), but the fact is he’s simply creepy, not a killer. He
doesn’t appear to be the type who would be charismatic, attractive, wealthy, or
well connected. And he is in direct violation of the idea put forth by Lorelei,
that he should have been Jane’s friend from the start. Jane hates him, and Jane
is not morbid or ghoulish.

 



Now to look at the reduced list of suspects:

 


Bret Stiles – I think it’s arguable that Bret and Jane are
actually friends, even if it is a weird and stilted relationship. We know Bret
is capable of murder and that he fits all of the other criteria. However, this
is simply too obvious. We know that Red John is or was a member of Visualize at
least in 1988. And we also know that Bret was able to provide Kristina Frye’s
whereabouts, leading the audience to think that he either is in contact with
Red John, or he has access to his confessions. I find it hard to believe that
Bret would be slumming with any of the known associates of Red John like Todd
Johnson, Rebecca, Dumar Tanner, Rosalind Harker, etc.

 



Walter Mashburn – Walter, too, fits all of the criteria
above. Personally I hope it isn’t him, mostly because I love his character.
Walter seems to be a little too relaxed and devil-may-care to take the time to
plot murders and run an entire syndicate of minions. Plus there is no evidence
linking him to Visualize, yet.

 



Tommy Volker – He too fits all the criteria, and we know he
runs a whole cult of personality. However given that there was an entire
storyline dedicated to his crimes, and that the Red John crimes are continuing
even after he is in jail/prison, this makes him unlikely. (Coincidentally this
is also the reason I don’t believe it’s Dr. Linus Wagner . . . he’s been in
jail since episode one of the series – though he’s creepy and his voice might
fit.)

 



Dr. Royston Daniel – This is my choice for Red John. He is
charismatic, and already runs his own semi-cult with the NLP group. He is
capable of hypnotizing people, and training people to hypnotize other people.
He already hypnotized someone into pretending to be him (the audience member at
the beginning of his lecture) and could have easily done this to Timothy
Carter. We also see that he has women fighting and killing for his affections.
He is attractive, he is wealthy, and he is likely well connected since he
trains people on how to become more effective at their jobs, etc. Plus he fits
Rosalind Harker’s description as far as hair and height.  There are also additional reasons to believe
it’s him: 1) his name is Royston (Roy Tagliaferro), 2) he identifies as a
Doctor, though likely a PhD – like Dr. Joe NH, 3) his initials are RD, unknown
middle name, possibly “ReD”; 4) he is British therefore drinks tea (we see Roy
Tagliaferro drinking tea with Rosalind); 5) like Jane, he is capable of mind
control through hypnotism. I don’t think his accent or lack of the creepy
Red-John-voice is dispositive, as anyone can disguise a voice/accent.







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