Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister Reede Smith
Reede Smith Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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I do not think the writes from start had a clew who Red John was going to be, so they were making the story as they were going when they found that red John was popular. I might be wrong in this theory but I have some experience with show writers. So looking at clews in much earlier episodes seams pointless to me. Nevertheless I do think there is a possibility this character to be someone who knows Patrick well, someone he will never suspect or we will never suspect. So I exclude all the characters that it is too obvious to be since this will be a let down form the writers and show producers. We should look elsewhere.
Having said all that I must say that the last episode gave me a clue that it is almost too good to be true. Red John is Patrick's father. Now I do not know why I got this feeling since I'm not sure what has happen to his father besides the info the episode gives away but in the great Hollywood tradition it is always a father and son universe. Think Darth Vader-Luke skywalker duo, so why not here too. Now why a father will have the sons wife and daughters killed I have no idea and I can't explain, though I think they can find a reason to cover it if they wish to be creative.

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I have a gut feeling that it's Teresa Lisbon. In the episode "Red John
Rules", at the very beginning when Lisbon checks up on Jane, Janes asks
about her hand. She says, "She tripped". Is this a clue that she
murdered Aileen the night before or maybe that same day. Then there's
the relationship between Lisbon and Jane. Doesn't it seem like they have
secret crushes on each other, right? Well, maybe it's really much more
than that. Maybe Lisbon is really obsessed with Jane. Maybe she has been
obsessed with Jane even before they knew each other. Maybe she used to
watch his show and became fatally attracted to Jane or just hated him
for being such a fake and a fraud but obsessed at the very same time.
She wanted him all to herself so she killed his wife and daughter. Maybe
it's deeper than that. Maybe it's related to Lisbon's alcoholic father
and something linked to Jane that hasn't been revealed yet. Maybe Jane
used some kind of psychotherapy/hypnotherapy on Lisbon's father that
caused him to commit suicide and that's why Lisbon punished Jane by
killing his family. That could be a possibility. Now, they work together
which makes so much sense especially because she's always a step ahead
of Jane. "Keep you friends close and your enemies closer"... sound
familiar? Now, later in the episode, when they meet Mr. Barlow there's
another clue about Lisbon. Barlow knows that Lisbon is a believer. That
she has faith and believes in the supernatural so that means she
understands that the psychic world is real and maybe she's the one who
possesses such powers. Barlow visits the mind of Lisbon and he read that
she's in love with Jane but "love" can be interpreted in many different
ways... obsession, fatal attraction, love to hate, etc. Now, in the end
when they reveal the "7", it would make complete sense that Lisbon is
not among those 7. She has seen Jane's poster boards and she has 24/7
access to their department. Maybe she made the vid herself and she's
just playing mind games with Jane.

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Spoiler alert ! To the people that have not watched the latest episode and last of season 5.
(I STILL DONT HAVE A THEORY FOR WHO IS RED JOHN YET I PICKED A RANDOM CHARACTER)

- To the point :

In this episode (5-22) it is revealed Jane has shortened the list to 7 final suspects. In the video tape he is given by a Red John's accomplice, it shows Lorelie Martins guessing the names he has on his list even before he killed Lorelei. Lorelei died in episode S6-16 while the information Jane has gathered about who is Red John is stolen by Bob Kirkland which at the end proves out to be a clever mislead created by Jane after we see that a toothpick was left at the door and when Jane saw it out of place he smiled. This means Kirkland did not get the information for Red John. This means RJ used another way to figure out Jane's list. 

- There are a list of plausible scenarios at this point.

1. Jane is lying to Lisbon about his list for some reason. Unlikely though.
2. Red John knew the final names Jane would come upto after Lorelei told him he shook hands with him. Maybe.
3. Or it is indeed what it looks like, the list is real and all but the way Red John found the names that would be on Jane's list before he killed Lorelei is still unknown. I will look more into this and update you. Highly Plausible and maybe more will be revealed about the way RJ found Jane's list in the next season which may be the last one.

Basically the story is getting very cryptic since we are getting close the unveiling of the true identity of Red John, i don't think the writer would include easy to see clues about who RJ really is until the end of the series to keep the suspense.

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I think that Red John is Gale Bertram but now i am going to tell something different about the finale (so dont read it unless you watched 5x22)

I think i know how i RJ knew the exact 7 names, remember when Kirkland's man broke into Jane's room; jane knew someone would broke in, thats why he wanted to make -whoever broke in- believe that he has those 7 suspects. Now he knows the one who broke into his room is either RJ or an accomplice. Thats a good lead for Jane, noone else know that Jane knows someone broke in.

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I think that jane worked out two theories of who is red john. The first one is to show red john his work of finding him and the second one is in his head.

The first one, the episode when homeland security broke into jane' place he was very happy. Then he showed the cd to teresa he had those pictures, he had hem in order and where came those pictures. He is messing with red john's head and no one seems to notice.

The second one is in his mind. For all we know he might already know who is red john. Notice when he showed the cd he was facing away, and kind of smiling.

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I would like to learn something.

Is it possible that the list is fake, according to bruno heller's quotes?

He says RJ is one of the guys in the list, but as far as I understand, the list might not be Jane's real list. It could be formed of the fake evidence that Jane might have planted on his board, assuming RJ will get the info from his room.

Is the only explanation from Bruno is that RJ is in the list? If it is the only one, then Jane might be a step ahead.

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Okay, so I have not watched the finale yet...because I get up at 2 in the morning to work in morning radio so, a show that doesn't start until 10 is not condusive to my sleep pattern. (Can't we like get it petitioned to get it changed or something?! LOL)

However, the moment I woke up this AM and got to work I checked the CBS website to see who the 7 suspects were. I have creeped on this website for some time now without writing a post. I feel now is the time to give my feelings on each of the suspects.

First off, we can immediately eliminate Bob Kirkland in my opinion. He's come into the game pretty late and Loreli's comment about them becoming lifelong friends the moment they shook hands just doesn't make much sense seeing as they didn't meet that long ago. Obviously, he has something to do with Red John (whether he be for or against) but he is NOT the Red John.

I think Reede Smith, Sheriff McAllister and Ray Haffner can also be eliminated. Just because they either don't fit the build or the personality. Not to mention the fact that they've not really been a part of the show. Whomever Red John is, they're going to be somebody that we've seen at least a few times.

A lot of you like Brett Partridge for RJ. I agree, he is irksome ;) but Red John worked on the Visualize farm back in the day and I don't think Brett Partridge is old enough.

Here's who that leaves: Bret Stiles and Gale Bertram.

 I believe that Bret Stiles is Red John.

Why? You may ask...

Well, if Bret Stiles isn't Red John he's at least very connected to him. At this point we know that Red John has an insanely large network of people that he has at his disposal. Bret has been a part of the show for a long time as a reoccurring member of the cast.

Bret is old enough to have worked on the Visualize farm. Bret and Patrick also shook hands a long enough time ago that Loreli would have been able to say her comment and have it make sense.


We all wondered who the mole is in the CBI for RJ...I believe that is Gale Bertram.


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