Who is Red John?

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List of seven

Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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Spoiler alert ! To the people that have not watched the latest episode and last of season 5.
(I STILL DONT HAVE A THEORY FOR WHO IS RED JOHN YET I PICKED A RANDOM CHARACTER)

- To the point :

In this episode (5-22) it is revealed Jane has shortened the list to 7 final suspects. In the video tape he is given by a Red John's accomplice, it shows Lorelie Martins guessing the names he has on his list even before he killed Lorelei. Lorelei died in episode S6-16 while the information Jane has gathered about who is Red John is stolen by Bob Kirkland which at the end proves out to be a clever mislead created by Jane after we see that a toothpick was left at the door and when Jane saw it out of place he smiled. This means Kirkland did not get the information for Red John. This means RJ used another way to figure out Jane's list. 

- There are a list of plausible scenarios at this point.

1. Jane is lying to Lisbon about his list for some reason. Unlikely though.
2. Red John knew the final names Jane would come upto after Lorelei told him he shook hands with him. Maybe.
3. Or it is indeed what it looks like, the list is real and all but the way Red John found the names that would be on Jane's list before he killed Lorelei is still unknown. I will look more into this and update you. Highly Plausible and maybe more will be revealed about the way RJ found Jane's list in the next season which may be the last one.

Basically the story is getting very cryptic since we are getting close the unveiling of the true identity of Red John, i don't think the writer would include easy to see clues about who RJ really is until the end of the series to keep the suspense.

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I think that Red John is Gale Bertram but now i am going to tell something different about the finale (so dont read it unless you watched 5x22)

I think i know how i RJ knew the exact 7 names, remember when Kirkland's man broke into Jane's room; jane knew someone would broke in, thats why he wanted to make -whoever broke in- believe that he has those 7 suspects. Now he knows the one who broke into his room is either RJ or an accomplice. Thats a good lead for Jane, noone else know that Jane knows someone broke in.

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I think that jane worked out two theories of who is red john. The first one is to show red john his work of finding him and the second one is in his head.

The first one, the episode when homeland security broke into jane' place he was very happy. Then he showed the cd to teresa he had those pictures, he had hem in order and where came those pictures. He is messing with red john's head and no one seems to notice.

The second one is in his mind. For all we know he might already know who is red john. Notice when he showed the cd he was facing away, and kind of smiling.

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I would like to learn something.

Is it possible that the list is fake, according to bruno heller's quotes?

He says RJ is one of the guys in the list, but as far as I understand, the list might not be Jane's real list. It could be formed of the fake evidence that Jane might have planted on his board, assuming RJ will get the info from his room.

Is the only explanation from Bruno is that RJ is in the list? If it is the only one, then Jane might be a step ahead.

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Okay, so I have not watched the finale yet...because I get up at 2 in the morning to work in morning radio so, a show that doesn't start until 10 is not condusive to my sleep pattern. (Can't we like get it petitioned to get it changed or something?! LOL)

However, the moment I woke up this AM and got to work I checked the CBS website to see who the 7 suspects were. I have creeped on this website for some time now without writing a post. I feel now is the time to give my feelings on each of the suspects.

First off, we can immediately eliminate Bob Kirkland in my opinion. He's come into the game pretty late and Loreli's comment about them becoming lifelong friends the moment they shook hands just doesn't make much sense seeing as they didn't meet that long ago. Obviously, he has something to do with Red John (whether he be for or against) but he is NOT the Red John.

I think Reede Smith, Sheriff McAllister and Ray Haffner can also be eliminated. Just because they either don't fit the build or the personality. Not to mention the fact that they've not really been a part of the show. Whomever Red John is, they're going to be somebody that we've seen at least a few times.

A lot of you like Brett Partridge for RJ. I agree, he is irksome ;) but Red John worked on the Visualize farm back in the day and I don't think Brett Partridge is old enough.

Here's who that leaves: Bret Stiles and Gale Bertram.

 I believe that Bret Stiles is Red John.

Why? You may ask...

Well, if Bret Stiles isn't Red John he's at least very connected to him. At this point we know that Red John has an insanely large network of people that he has at his disposal. Bret has been a part of the show for a long time as a reoccurring member of the cast.

Bret is old enough to have worked on the Visualize farm. Bret and Patrick also shook hands a long enough time ago that Loreli would have been able to say her comment and have it make sense.


We all wondered who the mole is in the CBI for RJ...I believe that is Gale Bertram.


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I think it's a double play by Jane. He made up the whole suspects-on-the-board thing. Proof for that is when Jane got back from one case in one of the last episodes, he saw that someone has been in his room (the little feather or piece of paper or whatever, laying on the floor before the door that was planted by Jane) and he smiled, meaning he wanted Red John to see the board so it has to be fake. What was Jane trying to accomplish? Maybe the outcome is just as he expected - to made Red John angry, but what for? so he'd kill more offen? i dont get it :/ but I still think its a double play by Patrick.

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First of all awesome list I dont think its gonna be styles fun character think he will be in the next season an helps Jane catch him. I think its Thomas because Xander Berkley is a pretty big actor who has not been on the show since the second episode. Why else bring him back, a couple of those guys are working for him, but styles is gonna help jane next season and were finally gonna find out who red john is, preferably early on.

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