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Thomas McAllister
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Reede Smith
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Ray Haffner
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Gale Bertram
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Brett Partridge
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Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
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New Interview with Bruno Heller

The seven Red John suspects were revealed on Sunday night’s The Mentalist finale. Or were they? With Red John seemingly knowing everything that’s in Patrick Jane’s head — including his list — how much can we trust that the elusive serial killer is really among those seven names? And what can we expect from The Mentalist in season 6? Below, creator Bruno Heller answers our burning questions about the finale and beyond.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So after all that craftiness on Patrick Jane’s part, Red John is still a step ahead of him. So can we trust that the list is accurate if Red John is so willing to confirm it?
Bruno Heller
: Yes, we can trust that list. As much as much as Red John has been one step ahead with ahead, Lorelei Martins’ intervention changed the game. So as much as Red John is trying to play from a position of strength in reality Jane has gotten a lot closer. This last episode of the season really sets us up for next season: The hunt is on, no messing about.

Once again, you’re making moves that make me wonder if Patrick Jane is Red John — after all, how else could he know that memory from inside his head? But by saying Red John is definitely on the list, can we rule out the theory held by some fans that Jane is actually Red John?
Heller: I would say that definitively: Jane is not Red John.

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Hey there Mentalist fans!
 I have a theory,not a good one.First of all none of the guys on the list is Rd John!Heller said that when we find who Red John is we will be dissapointed.Exactly!If one of the guys in the list is Red John we won't be dissapointed becuse we guessed that it was one of them.But if it's not we will be dissapointed because we didn't expect it.Be patient though!Heller said that Red John's identity won't be reveiled for another 2 seasons(said that on season 5...).
One last thing is about the voice of Red John.He could use a voice filter when in copy cats,so he can be anyone...oh,and Patrick Jane can't be Red John I think.In the finale of season 5 people think that Patrick killed the woman.So in the others episodes?Think about it.And the fact that it was hard to wake up is wrong.Everybody wakes up difficult when others wake him up.

 Tanks for your time

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I am sick and tired of any ass hole accusing anyone not on the list of 7 because it's not jane because he's not ton the list of seven and bruno heller specifically stated it will be someone on the list of seven so any one accusing someone not on the list shut up and go away https://www.dropbox.com/s/m01sqnq7xv9gysv/red%20john%20list.xlsx this is a link to an excel worksheet compiling data on the seven suspects and who is most likely red john take a look if you like

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Red John is not on the list of seven. Why? Remember when PJ sticks the toothpick in the wall and Kirklands minions come in and take photos of everything in the room. When PJ comes back he notices that the toothpick fell and even smiles a bit. The list of seven is a decoy to lead RJ astray. Now we know that Kirkland is connected to or works with RJ in some way. Kirkland sends his boys in to find the information, his boys come back and say that they will view the photos and de code the information that they got. Kirkland says no, and that HE will only view the photos. Kirkland then relays then information to RJ. PJ knew that someone would break into the room, so he put up fake information. Now, obviously PJ and Lisbon love each other and I don't think PJ would ever tell Lisbon who his real suspects are because he would never want to endanger the person he loves. In this years season finale Jane receives a CD from a RJ co worker who obviously knows tons about RJ and says that " I have been with RJ for a ver long time". The woman rides in the back seat of a cop car with only 1 policeman who obviously can't keep an eye on her because he is driving, so she kills herself. Why would Jane let a person who has bountiful information of RJ and had been with him for a long time just be able to kill herself? Because he doesn't need anything from her... Because he already knows who RJ'S is. I don't know who it is but I'm 99% sure RJ is not on the list. I believe the video with lorelei was MADE by PJ to confuse lisbon. PJ hyponotised the women that worked with RJ and made her kill herself because PJ Somehow found out she worked with RJ in the past so he hates her. It is now PJs turn to play with RJ

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I have a theory...

Lorelei is a key.
Either Lorelei Martins is alive, or she has an twin/look alike which read a script to Jane at the final of season 5. 
Nobody from a Patrick Jane "7 people list" is Red John, but 

[almost all/all] of them are his close accomplices.
Kirkland is one of them, and Jane knew that from the start, so he easily manipulated him by placing toothpick, and letting him steal fake information of 7 NAMES which Kirkland updated Red John with later on (RED LETTER DAY) 
Patrick made a fake info of 7 names, and "gave" them to Red John, so he could think that he is a step ahead of Jane. 
Jane is mastermind, he would never leave evindence of names behind him, so instead of that he used that same evidence against Red John by giving him an "illusion" of step ahead.
But Red John is not step ahead.
Jane is step ahead of him, and his accomplices now, leading them all by fake proofs, evidence and "illusion". He tricked RJ into making video, made him think that he is on Jane's level of thinking which he is not on, even if he is a mastermind criminal.

My pick still ELLIS MARS which everyone forgot about, that "too kind" psyhic, who appeared to protect his identity. I have many theories on him but we shall see if I'am right.

I thought of this theory from my point of view because this is what I would do, and I'm sure it would be genius way to get a great twist. Just a theory tho. =)

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RED JOHN =  7 LETTERS!

7 SUspects!

Red John is all 7 suspects! The message in the bathroom in the old episode where it was written ''he is ma..'' actualy is ''He is many''!!

GG:P  I was bored

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Let's put the pieces together in a realistic attitude in which we assume that producers are not selling metaphysical stuff with this happy-crying murderer.  Before presenting my theory, I want you who are interested in storytelling stuff to think about this question: 
Imagine that it's a written novel and Lisbon is the narrator of this story, would this final episode be different?  
I just want you to think about it.

Anyway; let's ask our ordinary question:

How can Red John know exact list of seven names of Patrick Jane?


I think non of these seven names announced by L.Martins is R.J. Moreover, P.Jane's list is different or even there is no list of 7 names.  Watch the final, s5e22 carefully. P.J regularly incepts a curiosity into Lisbon's mind without satisfying it.  If P.Jane actually does not Lisbon to know this seven suspects issue, Lisbon would not have any clue about it.  

Watch the final part of final episode again, Red John's declaration does not say that there is 7 names but "a few names". It's definitely the same trick of Patrick Jane. A couple of week ago, he designed his "investigation room" with the awareness of Robert Kirkland's move. And yes, he simply incepted these seven names into Kirkland's mind then Kirkland's team of special agents edited the video according to these seven names.(of course with the presumption that he is accomplice of Rj) 

I argue that the original version of the L.Martins video contains more suspects and probably (no reasonable evidence but a possibility which is reasonable in itself) it's 30 as CBS website gives it to us but now we are  tricked by Red John who debugged other names and wanted to show P.J that "I'm much more superior than you!". At the twist, our first impression is supported by this cap ;
http://i39.tinypic.com/9kuyo6.jpg 
and producers want us to feel exactly the same as Lisbon. They want us to think the metaphysical possibilities, "special powers", they constantly bolds a"faith of metaphysics in this murderer" in us as Lisbon illusioned by Sean Barlow. And they tricked us at the final. However, what makes this show "watchable" is the post-modern "unreliable narrator" technique in which the narrator and equivalently we are double tricked just like Dr. Watson of Sir A.Conan Doyle.

Shortly, I think P.Jane does not know who Red John is but now he knows that he fooled Red John for gaining advantage and he fooled Lisbon for the sake of season finale. I guess, whole trick will be unfolded at s6e1 in which we see that P.J.'s list is not 7 names but 30 names as CBS weirdly and surprisingly served us.



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