Okay, Heller says that's the real list.
If so, then RJ got it or made it up before Lorelei's death. Episode 5x16.
If RJ made it up himself, independently from Patrick, then RJ is a genius. No, he is more than a genius. After all, he managed to narrow the list to the exact same seven names as Patrick did. Superman.
If RJ stole the list from Partick, then Patrick was ready with it by 5x16. What the **** was he doing in the last six episodes (5x17 - 5x22) then?
Remember when Walter Mashburn and Theresa hooked up?
RJ is quite manipulative so I think somehow he managed to get Theresa to fall in love with him and to join up with team R.J.
Just a thought after the last episode. Jane's true suspect is not on the list
People, the writer of the show has stated that :
ONE OF THE SEVEN IS RED JOHN.
End of that discussion.
Here is my opinion on it.
1) Kirkland
It won't be Kirkland. That is beyond too obvious and the show doesn't like obvious. I believe Red John attacked somebody he loved too and he is geared to kill Red John himself.
2) Bret Stiles
Not him. Besides being too old to pull it off, Lorelei said "It's a wonder why you DIDN'T become friends as soon as you shook hands". Bret and Jane are friends, which throws this theory out of the water.
3) Brett Patridge
Too young. Realistically, how could somebody this young pull of this level of work? Also too obvious.
4) Gale Bertram
This really could have been him. If you recall from a few seasons ago during the finale, when Jane tricked the mole by telling each suspect a different room, the killer went through Bertram's room first [so they thought it was him] but the killer had rope to go down to the floor below. This could have been played as Redjohn thought that Bertram and the other guy were told different numbers because someone flubbed up, so they figured to check both. However, somebody of Red John's intellect likely wouldn't fall for it.
5) Thomas McAllister [Sheriff]
Definitely not him, too random of a character and not nearly big enough in the series.
6) Reede Smith
Definitely not him, too random of a character and not nearly big enough in the series. He's also too new of a character.
7) Leaving Ray Haffner. He's in it enough, but not enough at the same time to fit Red John. He fits all profiles given. Jane and him don't get along and he's trying to drag Lisbon away and get information off of her. The most suitable suspect.
Personally I find very interesting coming here and reading all of your theorys, but one have got my attention: "A fake list made by Patrick to mislead Red John."
People betting in this one are missing some points of logic: for such plan work Red John HAVE to be on that list, otherwise he just won't fall for the trick! RJ would just realize that with the information Lorelei gave Jane could indeed find out who he is and so would see how fake the list is.
For that Jane would have to know who Red John is and, well, we all know that he would not be playing around if that was the case...
I think that's enough to break that theory... But if I'm wrong you guys can always enlighten my mind, of couse =p.
About the list... Well I have my guesses, but that's all what they are: guesses.
Oh, and isn't it great that just with the last episode the numbers of bets on Patrick being Red John have just lost first place? I really hated this theory. D=
I was thinking about who Red John is for a while now. I didnt believe it was Jane, I always suspected Cho i dont know why but to me he looks identicly like the Red John's smiley face, until today i watched the Red John's rules episode.
I guess many of you havent noticed what the song in the end of the episode is about. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cxhl8AwOf0
Something's got a hold of my heart!!!!!!
Keeping my soul and senses apart!!!!!!
Something`s gotten into my life
Cutting its way through my dreams like a knife
Turning me up, turning me down
Making me smile and making me frown
I am still not sure but to me more times i listen to that more sure i am that it is Jane, besides, Jane is the woman name for John.
New Interview with Bruno Heller
The seven Red John suspects were revealed on Sunday night’s The Mentalist finale. Or were they? With Red John seemingly knowing everything that’s in Patrick Jane’s head — including his list — how much can we trust that the elusive serial killer is really among those seven names? And what can we expect from The Mentalist in season 6? Below, creator Bruno Heller answers our burning questions about the finale and beyond.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So after all that craftiness on Patrick Jane’s part, Red John is still a step ahead of him. So can we trust that the list is accurate if Red John is so willing to confirm it?
Bruno Heller: Yes, we can trust that list. As much as much as Red John has been one step ahead with ahead, Lorelei Martins’ intervention changed the game. So as much as Red John is trying to play from a position of strength in reality Jane has gotten a lot closer. This last episode of the season really sets us up for next season: The hunt is on, no messing about.
Once again, you’re making moves that make me wonder if Patrick Jane is Red John — after all, how else could he know that memory from inside his head? But by saying Red John is definitely on the list, can we rule out the theory held by some fans that Jane is actually Red John?
Heller: I would say that definitively: Jane is not Red John.
Hey there Mentalist fans!
I have a theory,not a good one.First of all none of the guys on the list is Rd John!Heller said that when we find who Red John is we will be dissapointed.Exactly!If one of the guys in the list is Red John we won't be dissapointed becuse we guessed that it was one of them.But if it's not we will be dissapointed because we didn't expect it.Be patient though!Heller said that Red John's identity won't be reveiled for another 2 seasons(said that on season 5...).
One last thing is about the voice of Red John.He could use a voice filter when in copy cats,so he can be anyone...oh,and Patrick Jane can't be Red John I think.In the finale of season 5 people think that Patrick killed the woman.So in the others episodes?Think about it.And the fact that it was hard to wake up is wrong.Everybody wakes up difficult when others wake him up.
Tanks for your time