I still can't decide between Jane and Kirkland. I believe more it's Kirkland but here's the Jane theory.
I think Jane is insane, like Johnny Depp in Secret Window. He does all the killing but he doesn't know that.
I never thought of this until last episode with that memory.
BUT still Jane shook hands with Red John and this is what crushes my theory and puts Kirkland in place
i dont have a theory but i have some questions. i think there is something fishy first of all why does lorelei have no gun shot wound in the scene where she is dead also how did red john know what lorelei said to jane. something lorelei said reminded me of something lisbon said in the message from red john he said you just got a lucky break lisbon always says this
Wouldnt it be a disappointment if Red John was Brett Partridge, given that he has the look and the voice to match Red John. It would be too easy and predictable. If Red John were Rigsby or even better yet Cho, now that would be a fun story as it plays out. As for who my guess is, I like the posting earlier today about Amos Van Pelt and Grace being his accomplice, but who knows.
Assuming that one of the seven names is the real Red John
Everybody thinks in height, short hair and all of these superficial things that are common to a high percentage of the men in America, but the smell...
The smell is very important. (“She smelt of sweat and strawberries & cream”)
We know
"he smelt of pine and nails and earth"
...and the strong hands
I think he lives in the countryside
For these reasons and because is the most unthinkable
My vote is for Sheriff Thomas McAllister
None of the seven. Lisbon may be a suspect by Jane, as Johns accomplice. Remember that Jane only showed her the video after seeing it himself, so he could have produced any matching list of his own suspects. And why would a guy with brains like Jane's need to carry the list in a form of seven photographs!? It is a joke to lul Lisbon deeper in the belief of Red's powers and have her relax. I respect the above comment about the age and hair of Red John. Heller is messing this up. The list may be "real", but what does the "real list mean"? It can be a real fake list.
People, the writer of the show has stated that :
ONE OF THE SEVEN IS RED JOHN.
End of that discussion.
Stop with the nonsense theories about the fake list, i think that next season is gona be like the following, main characters will star to die.
Also they told us the hunt for red john gonna change, and the reason is because the season 5 finale.
So lets get focus on the 7 suspects... i think its Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
too old, plus Bret and Jane are friends, but im pretty sure he knows who is red john
If it's not brett i think in Kirkland, many people say that he is not reveal until season 5, but maybe he was on the show at the background...i remember to see some pictures with a men in a limo talking with minelli in season 2, and he looks just like bob....
First of all, I need to ventilate a bit. Is it just me who got really pissed off with the fact they left the caretaker woman in a police car with one random officer, knowing every single rj accomplice so far killed him-/herself? No, that's straight out f**king stupid and is either a bad move by the directors or Jane is hiding something about that video. My money on the first assumption.
However, with the list and this latest Heller interview we must assume this list of 7 contains the one true culprit. My guess would be Ray Haffner. Why?
Well for starters
1) He's got the fitting appereance as described by a few, especially Rosalind in regards to his haircut. I have not paid much attention to any rings on his fingers, but someone might be able to add to that.
2) He's the right age and flipped off Teresa in the conversation of Vizualise and him being the appropriate age for the timeline of the farm murders.
3) He's shaken hands with Jane.
4) He's in a position of power and money, the latter strengthened by the fact he offered Lisbon a job that'd increase her paycheck significantly. He does indeed try to get closer to Lisbon, however, I don't see this is a real clue, but it might be.
5) This is a pretty far-fetched theory, but remember Bertram reciting the 'tyger tyger' poem by William Blake to Lisbon and LaRoche I think it was? When asked where it came from he said he heard it from a friend, I'm pretty sure he's friends with Haffner. Far-fetched, but maybe ;)
However, there's a few things pointing against him, such as the fact he doesn't seem that manipulative nor psychic - his voice doesn't match it either, but yeah, could be altered.
Brett Partridge is also a seemingly acknowledgeable suspect, even if he's a very 'obvious' red herring. What is it with people saying he's young and can't fit the age description? Noone's ever defined his age, and in real life t he actor's born 1968 which would mean he'd be around 45 years old today. That could fit, no? Not gonna go into why he's a probable suspect, that's already been posted a lot on these boards.
Another red herring is Robert Kirkland. I don't think he's RJ simply because it'd be too obvious, he also entered the show too late (apart from the car scene) and I have a feeling he also wants red john, maybe for the same reasons as Jane does.
Finally, I think the Tyger Tyger poem as so often recited by Red John and others bares some kind of clue to the culprit. As far as I know the poem is a sister poem to another poem by Blake called The Lamb, where as the Tyger is a duality between beauty and animalistic tendencies in human beings. Could this be Vizualise talk?
Sorry about potential bad english, not my native language.