Wouldnt it be a disappointment if Red John was Brett Partridge, given that he has the look and the voice to match Red John. It would be too easy and predictable. If Red John were Rigsby or even better yet Cho, now that would be a fun story as it plays out. As for who my guess is, I like the posting earlier today about Amos Van Pelt and Grace being his accomplice, but who knows.
Assuming that one of the seven names is the real Red John
Everybody thinks in height, short hair and all of these superficial things that are common to a high percentage of the men in America, but the smell...
The smell is very important. (“She smelt of sweat and strawberries & cream”)
We know
"he smelt of pine and nails and earth"
...and the strong hands
I think he lives in the countryside
For these reasons and because is the most unthinkable
My vote is for Sheriff Thomas McAllister
None of the seven. Lisbon may be a suspect by Jane, as Johns accomplice. Remember that Jane only showed her the video after seeing it himself, so he could have produced any matching list of his own suspects. And why would a guy with brains like Jane's need to carry the list in a form of seven photographs!? It is a joke to lul Lisbon deeper in the belief of Red's powers and have her relax. I respect the above comment about the age and hair of Red John. Heller is messing this up. The list may be "real", but what does the "real list mean"? It can be a real fake list.
People, the writer of the show has stated that :
ONE OF THE SEVEN IS RED JOHN.
End of that discussion.
Stop with the nonsense theories about the fake list, i think that next season is gona be like the following, main characters will star to die.
Also they told us the hunt for red john gonna change, and the reason is because the season 5 finale.
So lets get focus on the 7 suspects... i think its Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
too old, plus Bret and Jane are friends, but im pretty sure he knows who is red john
If it's not brett i think in Kirkland, many people say that he is not reveal until season 5, but maybe he was on the show at the background...i remember to see some pictures with a men in a limo talking with minelli in season 2, and he looks just like bob....
First of all, I need to ventilate a bit. Is it just me who got really pissed off with the fact they left the caretaker woman in a police car with one random officer, knowing every single rj accomplice so far killed him-/herself? No, that's straight out f**king stupid and is either a bad move by the directors or Jane is hiding something about that video. My money on the first assumption.
However, with the list and this latest Heller interview we must assume this list of 7 contains the one true culprit. My guess would be Ray Haffner. Why?
Well for starters
1) He's got the fitting appereance as described by a few, especially Rosalind in regards to his haircut. I have not paid much attention to any rings on his fingers, but someone might be able to add to that.
2) He's the right age and flipped off Teresa in the conversation of Vizualise and him being the appropriate age for the timeline of the farm murders.
3) He's shaken hands with Jane.
4) He's in a position of power and money, the latter strengthened by the fact he offered Lisbon a job that'd increase her paycheck significantly. He does indeed try to get closer to Lisbon, however, I don't see this is a real clue, but it might be.
5) This is a pretty far-fetched theory, but remember Bertram reciting the 'tyger tyger' poem by William Blake to Lisbon and LaRoche I think it was? When asked where it came from he said he heard it from a friend, I'm pretty sure he's friends with Haffner. Far-fetched, but maybe ;)
However, there's a few things pointing against him, such as the fact he doesn't seem that manipulative nor psychic - his voice doesn't match it either, but yeah, could be altered.
Brett Partridge is also a seemingly acknowledgeable suspect, even if he's a very 'obvious' red herring. What is it with people saying he's young and can't fit the age description? Noone's ever defined his age, and in real life t he actor's born 1968 which would mean he'd be around 45 years old today. That could fit, no? Not gonna go into why he's a probable suspect, that's already been posted a lot on these boards.
Another red herring is Robert Kirkland. I don't think he's RJ simply because it'd be too obvious, he also entered the show too late (apart from the car scene) and I have a feeling he also wants red john, maybe for the same reasons as Jane does.
Finally, I think the Tyger Tyger poem as so often recited by Red John and others bares some kind of clue to the culprit. As far as I know the poem is a sister poem to another poem by Blake called The Lamb, where as the Tyger is a duality between beauty and animalistic tendencies in human beings. Could this be Vizualise talk?
Sorry about potential bad english, not my native language.
I am accusing Bruno Heller, but he wasn't on the list.
1) I am super pissed by this 30 suspects thing by CBS. We have been working on this case so hard, re-watching all the episodes several times, and CBS has ruined our work with this stupid marketing strategy to increase ratings.
2) About the statements of Bruno Heller. I don't know what the hell he is thinking, but he ruined our work as well, and possible clever theories. Why the hell is he saying that the list is real, no more twists and RJ is one of them. Maybe I want to think that it is a fake list. Maybe I don't want everything to be this damn simple and linvestigate. Maybe I enjoy double bluffs or I will crack the case?
But no. He has to market it like a shampoo. I really don't like his explanations and spoilers. If you wanna tell something, tell it in the episodes. This suspect pool on the website and spoilers of Heller is quite annoying for me. Our fun is spoiled in exchange of ratings.
Okay, let's admit some things, though we might like it or not.
Let's just all accept that the list is real, as much as we don't want to, and work on these people.
But I want to show the non-sense here:
RJ learned that Lorelei told Jane that they shook hands. And from that, he came up with 7 people that Jane would come up with weeks later. For one second, we may assume that RJ thought just like Jane and RJ is way smarter and can think just like Jane, and found the suspects in advance.
Well, there is one thing RJ doesn't know, Jane's chat with the guy from farm. He told Jane that a person painted that smiling face on the barn, a person some man called "kid".
Now obviously, RJ doesn't know that Jane knows the age of him, so he includes Bret Stiles in the list. But, how the hell does this match with Jane's list? Jane knows that Bret is too old to be RJ.
And Gale is bald, he doesn't have short straight hair, he has no hair at all. And we know that Rosalind was telling the truth for sure, because Dumar told Jane "If only that Rosalind woman didnt show up and spoiled things..."
So, assuming that both RJ and Jane have brains, it is impossible for Jane's list to match RJ's list.
But Bruno says list is real. So what I think is Bruno doesn't give a shit about these. The viewers of the show know Bret Stiles, so he includes him. He is a popular guy somehow connected to RJ. Ppl know Gale so he is in the list.
Well, I don't give a damn about the list anymore. I don't take it serious, because it makes zero sense to me.
I tend to think practically. If Jane was John, then it would ruin a lot of the series. It would put Jane beyond redemption. Who would ever buy merchandise and watch old episodes if they knew that they were just watching a crazy murderer who was the star of the show?
I absolutely love the theories that accuse Patrick Jane, though. Playing off of everyone's hopes/fears, I actually expect that there will be an episode in which Red John tries to convince Jane that he is, in fact, Red John. And Jane will probably be forced to seriously consider this possibility.
I don't recall specifics, but I remember two episodes in particular where people were held in high suspicion simply for being obsessed with RJ. It is a gaping hole in the show that Jane has never yet been really accused of this.
I think it's important to keep things in perspective too. I know we all care about Patrick, and we want to know about Red. But in this series alone we were faced with a character who killed an entire village of people! That has to be worse than Red John, right? If Red has to be portrayed as the true villain in the show, we're probably in for some major shenanigans yet.
Just thought I'd pitch in my two cents. :)