Who is Red John?

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Thomas McAllister
Thomas McAllister
Reede Smith
Reede Smith
Ray Haffner
Ray Haffner
Gale Bertram
Gale Bertram
Brett Partridge
Brett Partridge
Bret Stiles
Bret Stiles
Bob Kirkland
Bob Kirkland

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if red john know about the list of seven when lorelai was alive .... why he want to break jane s room a few episodes later and stole it ??? i think we could exclude Bob Kirkland .... i bet all my money on Bertram ... we know red john was always one step in front of jane .... in the season 3 finale he played his game because he anticipate jane s game when van pelt boyfrient told about that CBI woman ( i don t  remember her name ) ... so i think red john is one of : Bret Stile / Bertram / Patridge / Ray Haffner ... bret stiles i think is to old and we know red john work at that farm were was found 2 dead peoples ( and bret stiles was owner of visualize and i think he couldn t work there because he was the boss ) ... the sheriff and that FBI agent i don t know why are at that list ... but the writers are not stupid and i think they have their role ... 

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Bret Stiles, is the father of two brothers guess who they are.

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Just a quick observation: when PJ is captured and tied to a chair he falls over but is lifted up (quite easily) by RJ. This seems to exclude both women and someone like Bret Stiles as it requires a considerably amount of strenght.

I know it happened a long time ago, but still...

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His mood's seem to mirror Red John. When we previously see him, he is excitable and happy, when Red John was teasing PJ. But when Red John realises Patrick knows the suspects, he is angry, and in the season finale, Brett Patridge is a lot more broody, showing the same moods.

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Theory #2802 • By Ryan
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BRETT PARTRIDGE 

Take out "B, T and T" out of his first name you are left with RE 

Add "D" from his surename you get "RED"

What you are left with in his surname are "PARTRIGE 
Rearrange them and you get "TIGER" 

RED TIGER


The last letters you are left with are "T and T" from his first name.

T and T could possible allude to Tiger, Tiger. 

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I know that there are many people who deeply wish that the list of 7 is another bait. Actually, till now we'd been cracking our brains to find out who RJ was, but apparently now people will have dual theories from now on with the list involved and otherwise. 

Personally I am one of those fellas who in fact does believe that the list of 7 can still be a deception somehow. After all, most of us are just posting theories about "how we want it to happen" rather than "how it's supposed to happen" which is pretty normal because those little geniuses inside us lead us that way.

Either way, I mean the list being involved or not, I still put my money on Jane's past and the last episode supports my way of thinking. Let's say the list involves the real RJ. Then I believe that one of those people in the list is actually not who he is but he's someone from PJ's past. A friend, his father, his brother, his hi-school teacher, whatever you'd like to think.

You may see my earlier theory: http://www.whoisredjohn.com/See-a-theory-Red-John/2419#disqus_thread

Sticking to that theory, I will go deeper into analysis:

Final episode leaves us many questions to be answered actually. Let's see them below and try to reply in all possible ways:

1- Lorelei's video recording:

a-) Has it been made by Jane to deceive Lisbon (and indirectly others) in an attempt to mislead RJ regarding what Jane knows or doesn't know? In that case, this means Jane has already figured out who RJ is but he's just going to find out the reason why RJ is so obsessed about him. Because there's absolutely much more than what has been said on that TV show about RJ because Jane's analysis about RJ on the show is way too cliche (he's a sociopath, a lonely soul, etc.) so that even if he were David Copperfield but not just a mentalist (or fake Psychic), it might piss RJ off but not necessarily make him obsessed about Jane as being a super-clever person who is worth to toy with just for high quality fun. So, I believe there's much more to that. RJ knows him way before he killed his wife and kid.

b-) Has it been made by RJ to humiliate Jane? This is another possibility and it means "Who the hell do you think has given you all those evidences or clues to come up with such a list? Even if you can figure out those 7 names, I can make it yesterday" kind of situation. However, there's an important clue on that video (if it was taken by RJ of course). He says something like "do you think this is clever? this is just luck!" Luck! This means that Jane has a hit in that list. Because as per RJ's statement (Luck), PJ has figured him out (at least with 1/7 ratio) and he is pissed off because he thinks that PJ hasn't earned it but taken some wild guesses. Pissing off thing can be understood from him revealing his future plans to kill even many more. No matter how sophisticated RJ is, he's still a psycho with high temper. Otherwise, he would have opened up a pizza shop named Red John's.

2-) Why did Jane let the woman go with the police car without further investigating her?

a-) It's a "Nah, not worth to waste my time because she won't say anything about RJ anyway" situation. This doesn't make sense at one point because he might have hypnotized her to let her sing like a nightingale but I'm not sure if she can be over-hypnotized if she were already hypnotized by RJ.

b-) It's a "Nah, I already know who RJ is and I don't need that chic to tell it to everyone and just blow up my plan" situation. 

Not being necessarily related with the episode, I still have some other question marks within the show. As the context gets spread like crazy, there are many more details to follow. That's how LOST has screwed it up. Many open-ended questions remained unsolved. If Bruno Heller intends to do the same thing, then it will be sad. If not, this means there will be many other points to be enlightened. I always look at the characters and events remain under some kind of cover or not sufficiently processed. For example:

1- Where the hell is Bret Stiles? Such an important character just sitting at home and watching TV all this time? No! He is being prepared for a key move in the next season because he is one of the top players in this game. How? I don't know yet but my earlier theory might give you some idea.

2- Why Partridge is being shown as a rather tamed and serious personality all of a sudden? Where's his childish behavior and excitement as displayed before? Is he behaving mature when his personnel is around to gain more respect? Or is he being presented to us in such a way that "Dude, I never thought that this guy would be RJ but now he looks more of it?" 

3- Where is Kristina Frye? Is she involved in a business investment like Kristina Fryed Chicken and no more interested in other things? She might be thinking that she's dead but wasn't she the one who believed that the dead can also contribute in many ways? We will see her again and just like Stiles, she will be the key to many things.

4- Why? Why the hell nobody from Jane's past (the carnival people expecially) do not ask for Jane's father's whereabouts or why not Jane raises such a question to those people? Asking doesn't hurt right? Do you think that the writers or producers just say "Well, everyone has a father and Jane does have one. So what? We covered that situation already, we made them apart, let him just live in peace wherever he is"? I don't think so... We will see his father and he will play a great role in RJ case in future season(s).

5- Jane's childhood memory. What was it? A memory planted by RJ or some other freak? Or was it real? Either ways, this leads us to the conclusion that RJ and PJ had been in interaction (a close one) way before we know.

So, what remains under the shadows will actually rise and shine, and show us the real picture. Even if RJ is one in that list, he is not originally that person but actually someone else in Jane's past but professionally disguised and seeking vengeance if he hadn't taken it enough by killing his family. Otherwise, I don't believe that an over-bored killer comes up and says "Oh man, there's no one to play in the playground. Well, that guy seems interesting... C'mon dude, let's play! But first let me kill your family so you can also feel like playing with major enthusiasm". There is more to this show my friends. There's a higher path... ;) 

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This isn't necessarily a single accusation, but more of an analysis of each character in the final list of 7 and how he is possibly Red John and how he is also not. At this point, I'm not fully confident in one suspect so I will rank based on what we know about them. I apologize in advanced if this is too long, but thought I had some pretty good points and observations to bring up. Some of them may be a stretch but still something to ponder about. 

Bret Stiles - He has helped Jane on two separate occasions: First time was when he told him the whereabouts of Kristina Frye and the second occasion when he orchestrated Lorelei's breakout. In season 2 when RJ meets PJ, he says something along the lines of "Kristina would want me to send you her love... she's very fond of you". RJ clearly knows that PJ cared about Kristina and was upset by her abduction. Later, Bret Stiles leads PJ to her, but it's too late for him; she is beyond his help. What if RJ knew getting PJ's hopes up but eventually crushing them would be a tantalizing way to mess with PJ's mind? Similarly with Lorelei, he knew Lorelei wasn't going to talk (except for letting slip about shaking hands, which he apparently was furious about), and deliberately let her get released? Not to mention Lorelei expected it would be him to break out her out and we know Bret Stiles is definitely one of the people capable of this feat.

On the flip side, there are a few hints that suggest he is not Red John. One fact is that Rosalind Harker describes RJ to have straight, short hair and Bret Stiles seems to be more of a balding type (granted, she may have felt the back of his head). In addition though, she felt his face and surely would've felt the wrinkles and deduce he was pretty old. Is it likely she fell intimate with someone that much older than her? This is more of conjecture than factual reasoning, but something to consider nonetheless. Also, his voice doesn't sound remotely close to RJ's voice in the season 2 finale (again, he may be good at changing voices). The last detail is that Stiles seems to have a "friendly" relation with Jane; they talk quite casually without much sign of hostility and he also voices his concerns about Jane being caught for his involvement in Lorelei's escape.

Gale Bertram - He was on the original list of 4 suspects back in season 3 along with O'Laughlin, Ardiles, and Shettrick. What if RJ figured out Jane's trap because he knew the 2 locations (Bertram's and O'Laughlin's) contradicted each other? Why else would he hire the assassin to go through the trouble of using a rope to traverse to a room when she could have simply walked into O'Laughlin's right away? Perhaps it was a subtle teaser to Jane as a sign of "you almost got me, but not quite" and throw Jane off the trail. Not to mention he used the word "rope" when he says "you reached the end of the rope" as opposed to'line' ("you reached the end of the line" is far more common). This seems to be one feasible way of staying ahead of Jane; he provides Jane an answer that makes him THINK he's onto RJ when in fact RJ's been manipulating and pulling the strings. Lets also not forget that he's seen collaborating with Bob Kirkland (who definitely has a strong connection to RJ) after he interrogates Lisbon about Lorelei. A more minor detail is that poker is seen extensively throughout the series. Bertram is an avid poker player and we also get a rare closeup of his hands (you have to use your hands to play poker!). He and Brett Partridge are the only two characters on this list where we get a somewhat zoomed-in view on their hands (part of Harker's description on RJ).

In terms of evidence that it's not him, he has a similar one to Bret Stiles; balding and not much hair, and also the voice (again, this is arguable obviously). He also receives help from Jane (poker) and doesn't seem too ashamed about it. He's also keen to keep Jane in prison (when he tells Ardiles to try and stop Jane from bailing) and we know for a fact Red John enjoys Patrick Jane chasing him and will in a way help Jane get back on trail (killing Bosco and his team back in season 2 for instance)

Reede Smith - This is probably the one person on the list that I cannot connect to Red John. If anyone has any theories on him being RJ, I would be intrigued to hear it. 

Ray Haffner - All the reasons that he is RJ have been stated repeatedly so I won't post them (Red Barn connection, link to Visualize, high ranking CBI position, etc).

Why I think it's not Haffner: RJ knows Jane and Lisbon are inseparable. Haffner doesn't seem to, he keeps trying to prod Lisbon to come with him over Jane. Haffner has also been played by Jane, something that hasn't really happened to RJ so far. Haffner is also a former football player (award in his office). Being a football player, you would think he would be quite built, but Rosalid describes RJ as "not muscular". He is also supposedly leaving CBI, and look at the other suspects that were "leaving" who's been eliminated (virgil Mineli to Hawaii and Walter Mashburn to Europe anyone?) There also doesn't seem too much personal animosity between these two. 

Bob Kirkland - He provides Lisbon with details about the case with Lorelei's sister, which was a dead giveaway in letting PJ try to get Lorelei to cooperate. Doesn't he know that leaking that information would risk Lorelei revealing to Jane who RJ is? Again, this goes back to my theory how RJ purposely gives information (misleading and not always quite enough) to trick Jane into thinking he's ahead. 

Here's why I don't think it's Bob: RJ predicted (or rather knew) PJ's 7 suspects far before Bob broke into Jane's room and did an analysis of his findings. It seems far more likely that Kirkland is an accomplice and he merely sent him as a way to confirm his suspicions. He always states along the lines of "you don't know me, but I know you". Wouldn't this indicate he's not Red John (of course, one could argue depending on his/her interpretation but I personally think this was meant in the way that Patrick does not him because he's not Red John or someone else he's met before).
 
Thomas McAllister - The only connection I have is that he's a Sheriff and we know that Red John's association Orville Tanner had a son who was a sheriff himself: Sheriff Hardy back from the season 1 finale. A couple people also hypothesized that he lost on purpose in rock-paper-scissors to give Jane a false sense of security. Apparently, Bruno Heller also stated that RJ will be a "where's Waldo" type and 1 appearance does fit this criteria (I do not have a citation for this, however, someone confirm please?)

Why not him? This sort of contradicts what I said just now but I feel like 1 appearance isn't really enough to constitute the final villain. We also know very few details about him and I think the purpose of the show is to try and utilize/connect as many details we know about the suspects and make a logical guess.

Brett Partridge - I have no additional insights to the ones already been stated constantly. There are quite a lot of theories that suggest it's him.

Why I think it's not him? Way too obvious, seems like a Red Herring, and since when has a really obvious suspect ended up being the culprit in any of the episodes (filler and no-filler). 

Again, I have no clear suspect but if I were to rank in terms of likeliness, it would be:
Unlikely: Reede Smith, Thomas McAllister
Possible: Bob Kirkland, Bret Stiles, Ray Haffner
Likely: Gale Bertram, Brett Partridge

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